Trump call to DOJ in Dec 2020: 'Just say that the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me'

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Former President Donald Trump pressured acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen to declare that the election was corrupt in an attempt to help Republican members of Congress try to overturn the election result, according to notes of a December 2020 call Trump held with Rosen and acting deputy attorney general Richard Donoghue.

During the December 27, 2020, call, Trump pressured Rosen and Donoghue to falsely declare the election "illegal" and "corrupt" even after the Justice Department had not uncovered evidence of widespread voter fraud.

"Just say that the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me and the R. Congressmen," Trump said on the call, according to Donoghue's notes.

[After Trump is corrected about false claims about the election] "You guys may not be following the internet the way I do," Trump said, according to the notes.
 
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[After Trump is corrected about false claims about the election] "You guys may not be following the internet the way I do," Trump said, according to the notes.

One of the most accurate things the man has ever said. ^_^
 
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So Donald Trump is complaining about corruption. I’m at a loss for words. It’s not poetic justice. It’s way beyond the pot calling the kettle black. Whatever it is, I think my irony detector has exploded.
 
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Former President Donald Trump pressured acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen to declare that the election was corrupt in an attempt to help Republican members of Congress try to overturn the election result, according to notes of a December 2020 call Trump held with Rosen and acting deputy attorney general Richard Donoghue.

During the December 27, 2020, call, Trump pressured Rosen and Donoghue to falsely declare the election "illegal" and "corrupt" even after the Justice Department had not uncovered evidence of widespread voter fraud.

"Just say that the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me and the R. Congressmen," Trump said on the call, according to Donoghue's notes.

[After Trump is corrected about false claims about the election] "You guys may not be following the internet the way I do," Trump said, according to the notes.
May the Farce be with you.
 
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I would imagine that if Biden or Obama had been doing this, this would be all over the so called Mainstream Media and that most Democrats would be calling for the removal and imprisonment of Biden of Obama (of course I'm just speculating here, because they never did that).

But I am assuming that right wing media aren't reporting on this, and that most Republicans won't be put off and will still be really wanting Trump to win the Republican primaries and will still be wanting him to win the 2024 general election.

I'd be happy if I am wrong on this.
 
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I would imagine that if Biden or Obama had been doing this, this would be all over the so called Mainstream Media and that most Democrats would be calling for the removal and imprisonment of Biden of Obama (of course I'm just speculating here, because they never did that).

But I am assuming that right wing media aren't reporting on this, and that most Republicans won't be put off and will still be really wanting Trump to win the Republican primaries and will still be wanting him to win the 2024 general election.

I'd be happy if I am wrong on this.

I'd be shocked if you are wrong on this.
 
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It's really shocking and yet was expected and predictable. I'm sure others have seen for a long time just how dangerous this man is, mostly because people believe his lies no matter how outrageous and blatantly false.

The President of our country tried to get the Justice department to do injustice and lie to the American people that the election was corrupt to further his lie that it was stolen by democrats and the media and set Americans against one another. People died and were seriously injured at the rally on January 6 because of the mass insanity that comes from believing such dangerous lies. How is this guy not in jail?
 
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"Leave the rest to me..."

Any of Donald's fans care to speculate what he may have had in mind?

Oh this one is easy. The source in the OP is CNN, and therefore it's fake news. It's just anonymous sources, and therefore can't be trusted. If the sources aren't anonymous, Trump didn't say and/or mean what he said. Also something about how deranged/incompetent/old Joe Biden is, or talk about Hunter Biden, and laptop something something.

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I agree that this is info coming from mainstream media. Which by this time it would be good to recognize is fast food propaganda. The question I would ask is, what happens if voter fraud concerns increase exponentially in America? Is the conclusion that the only way this could happen is if too many people drank the Trump cool aide? Or is it possible that America is owned much by China and we are duped? What happens if the nation needs an overhaul with our voting systems? Do we honestly think what legislation is coming out with hypocritical border/COVID status is what America voted for? Whether to vax and wear masks or get on with our lives, or just wait around for the political magic 8 ball to tell us how much vax and how many masks to wear simultaneously according to the hardcore whimsical science the media is asking us to purchase at the local dime store? It is almost certain that if we align with media's presentations of Trump, we're going to get really confused as the fight for a free America (the real issue) overturns our current election processing's systems, I believe. Blessings.
 
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I agree that this is info coming from mainstream media. Which by this time it would be good to recognize is fast food propaganda. The question I would ask is, what happens if voter fraud concerns increase exponentially in America? Is the conclusion that the only way this could happen is if too many people drank the Trump cool aide? Or is it possible that America is owned much by China and we are duped? What happens if the nation needs an overhaul with our voting systems? Do we honestly think what legislation is coming out with hypocritical border/COVID status is what America voted for? Whether to vax and wear masks or get on with our lives, or just wait around for the political magic 8 ball to tell us how much vax and how many masks to wear simultaneously according to the hardcore whimsical science the media is asking us to purchase at the local dime store? It is almost certain that if we align with media's presentations of Trump, we're going to get really confused as the fight for a free America (the real issue) overturns our current election processing's systems, I believe. Blessings.
Respectfully this is not sound reasoning. People need to put prejudice aside and make determinations based on facts. That being said, I would like to point out that since the option between China being in control and drinking Trump cool aid are not even mutually exclusive, we should not ponder such a futile assertion.

The fact is too many people just believed the lies of Trump. Any reasoning based on something untrue ends in a contradiction. All I had to do was hear Trump express the sentiment that if he wins, the election was not rigged, but if he loses it was. Here's the Kool aid, "the only way we're going to lose this election is if the election is rigged,”.
 
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I would say China's desire to be in control is not a myth. But aside from that: "too many people believe Trump lies," is your opinion, not fact. It may be fact. But it is your opinion posing as fact. Trump is a show man. His 15 season reality TV show ended because he won the presidency. Basing what is true or not true based on wild Trump statements is not sound reasoning. In looking past that, lets just look at political science movement. If the voter fraud issues gains steam, it matters not what you or I think about it. It just matters what ends up happening. If states discern voter fraud problems who cares what Trump's opinion is. It is what it is. Guess we'll have to see. What is happening now looks like it will become a national concern. Only time will tell. But not much time. If we believe that January 6 is not a dem ploy for 2022, I think when the voter fraud issues becomes too big for Fox news to ignore anymore, would that mean that Trump has dumbed down America so much that he's gonna change national voter process? That will be the conundrum you are left with. Are we saying in that that the USA was pretty sharp before Trump came along? Is that another, "fact?"
 
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I agree that this is info coming from mainstream media. Which by this time it would be good to recognize is fast food propaganda.

Let Donald be true, and every journalist a liar.


The question I would ask is, what happens if voter fraud concerns increase exponentially in America? Is the conclusion that the only way this could happen is if too many people drank the Trump cool aide?

You talk about concerns, but not about evidence.

Coincidence?

Or is it possible that America is owned much by China and we are duped?

Is it possible that you were duped by someone besides China?

What happens if the nation needs an overhaul with our voting systems?

Then we overhaul it... but based on more than the screaming word of the sorest loser in American political history.


Do we honestly think what legislation is coming out with hypocritical border/COVID status is what America voted for? Whether to vax and wear masks or get on with our lives, or just wait around for the political magic 8 ball to tell us how much vax and how many masks to wear simultaneously according to the hardcore whimsical science the media is asking us to purchase at the local dime store? It is almost certain that if we align with media's presentations of Trump, we're going to get really confused as the fight for a free America (the real issue) overturns our current election processing's systems, I believe. Blessings.

Feel better now that you've gotten that antivax rant out?
 
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I "too many people believe Trump lies," is your opinion, not fact. It may be fact. But it is your opinion posing as fact.
Respectfully, it's not my opinion, it's a fact that Trump lied and people believed the lie. Trump claimed that if he loses the election was rigged. Trump is essentially claiming as a fact that before the election even happens, he knows with absolute certainty how every person in America is going to vote and that he already had won according to the people's will.

Obvious contradiction, Trump: "If I lose to him (Joe Biden), I don't know what I'm going to do, I will never speak to you again". This sentiment was expressed in many states, including one's he won, which shows he is not absolutely certain how every American was going to vote.
 
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Let Donald be true, and every journalist a liar.

Pretty sad isn't it? Jimmy Dore is democrat and showed in 2019 how the left media kept talking about Trump's presidency ending. Every month of his presidency like they had any idea. And the fact is, the media lied. They lied about Russia (after left gave Russia 20% of our Uranium), they lied about Ukraine, they lied about Hunter Biden, they tried to impeach Trump twice and back down on the second one because they did not want Pelosi to be interrogated (not to mention introduce doctored evidence for the whole world to see). I would say the proof is, the media lies. If you don't think so, I'd ask you to reconsider because their track record with Trump is miserable.

Then we overhaul it... but based on more than the screaming word of the sorest lover in American political history.

I think you meant "loser," but your Freudian slip I believe is more like it. I don't believe Biden won because besides it being incredibly obvious that that man does not belong in office, if Trump were one tenth as lost, the media would be all over him...meanwhile Biden is treated like a queen or princess--since you see Trump as a drama queen....on Biden, why the all the crickets? To me, Biden is president because America is under a spell. Its too obvious in the real world (respectfully).

Then we overhaul it... but based on more than the screaming word of the sorest lover in American political history.

Good, so when we find out that Biden did not win, you'll be good with that, right?
 
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Respectfully, it's not my opinion, it's a fact that Trump lied. Trump is essentially claiming as a fact that before the election even happens, he knows how all the people in America are going to vote and that he already had won according to the people's will.

It is your opinion. Trump is a just a man saying stuff. In 2012 he tweeted about voter fraud back then. It's always been something he thought was going on in the country. Trump is a vain man and like to troll people's emotions. That who that guy is. That has no bearing on whether or not the USA cheats in voting, but has everything to do with your assigning such an impossibility to something that can't be because Trump said it. Irony does not = fact.
 
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I agree that this is info coming from mainstream media. Which by this time it would be good to recognize is fast food propaganda. The question I would ask is, what happens if voter fraud concerns increase exponentially in America? Is the conclusion that the only way this could happen is if too many people drank the Trump cool aide? Or is it possible that America is owned much by China and we are duped? What happens if the nation needs an overhaul with our voting systems? Do we honestly think what legislation is coming out with hypocritical border/COVID status is what America voted for? Whether to vax and wear masks or get on with our lives, or just wait around for the political magic 8 ball to tell us how much vax and how many masks to wear simultaneously according to the hardcore whimsical science the media is asking us to purchase at the local dime store? It is almost certain that if we align with media's presentations of Trump, we're going to get really confused as the fight for a free America (the real issue) overturns our current election processing's systems, I believe. Blessings.
Mercola-level disinformation. Science is whimsical? Sure in alternative-fact world.
 
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