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Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary,Yes we are to walk in the Spirit but that doesn’t mean that we disregard YHWH’s law. As Yeshua, Paul, and John taught we are to uphold God’s law and keep his commandments.
The spiritual application of the law is inverse to the written law, almost antithetical. The commandments tell us what not to do, but implicit is what we ought to be doing in that same regard.
The spiritual application of the law is inverse to the written law, almost antithetical. The commandments tell us what not to do, but implicit is what we ought to be doing in that same regard.
The spiritual application of the law is inverse to the written law, almost antithetical. The commandments tell us what not to do, but implicit is what we ought to be doing in that same regard.
...the negative commandments should also be understood as being commandments to do the reverse, such as the command not to commit theft also being understood as the command to be generous.
Sin is no longer simply wrongdoing, as instructed by the Law; but the failure to do good,
That is my point, but from a legalistic viewpoint all that is needed is to obey the Law as written. If I abstain from stealing I have satisfied the requirement of the Law.
The statement you are quoting me on was in reference to James.The Matt 5 statement of Christ was always true
My understanding of this statement, based on what you have posted also,Sin is no longer simply wrongdoing, as instructed by the Law; but the failure to do good,
as we have been instructed by the conviction of the Holy Spirit of Christ.
James 4:17 Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do, to him it is sin.
When you ignore your own convictions of the heart, placed there by Holy Spirit, you hardenIn the OT the New Covenant is not merely written on outward action but rather "the LAW is written on THE HEART and mind" Jer 31:31-34
The statement you are quoting me on was in reference to James.
Sin is no longer simply wrongdoing, as instructed by the Law; but the failure to do good,
as we have been instructed by the conviction of the Holy Spirit of Christ.
James 4:17 Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do, to him it is sin.
The Law does, of course, establish the fundamental Truth of doing good:
Leviticus 19:18 You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children
of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord.
The Spirit of Christ calls us to be perfect, as our heavenly Father directs by His Will
Matthew 5:
43 You have heard that it was said, You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.
44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those
who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,
45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil
and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax
collectors do the same?
47 And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so?
48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.
I don't know about you, but I could never attain such a high level of obedience
to the Will of our Father without the power of His Holy Spirit
Psalm 139:
5 You have hedged me behind and before, and laid Your hand upon me.
6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot attain it.
My understanding of this statement, based on what you have posted also,
When you ignore your own convictions of the heart, placed there by Holy Spirit, you harden
your heart to the Lord, dull your conscience, and frustrate the Spirit of Grace.
An example of what James is teaching would be to ignore this from Torah, sin by inaction.I agree. I don't differ with your view that there is the inward thought-level form of sin and rebellion. My point is that such a thing was never "ok" it was always sin. Neither James nor Christ are making laws to create new sin - He is clarifying the Word of God to show how vast and deep are the implications of what sin actually is when we read God's commands.
An example of what James is teaching would be to ignore this from Torah, sin by inaction.
Exodus 23:
4 If you meet your enemy’s ox or his donkey going astray, you shall surely bring it back to him again.
5 If you see the donkey of one who hates you lying under its burden, and you would refrain from helping it, you shall surely help him with it.
and in Matthew 5, same thing.
44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you,
and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you.
Now, we would have to ignore the written law, and also the convicted conscience from the Holy
Spirit in our heart.
Nope. The scriptures from Exodus are saying "do the right thing", even when it is someoneI don't understand your point. You appear to be saying that the scriptures say to treat your enemy harshly but the text you quote says the opposite. What am I missing?
Nope. The scriptures from Exodus are saying "do the right thing", even when it is someone
you have issues with, and is consistent with what Jesus is teaching in Matthew 5. What James
says, is that to know you should be doing good to someone and do not, and is therefore sin.
There is more to Holy Spirit in your heart than what has already been written. Conviction of
conscience can occur in an infinite number of situations.
I didn't have an issue, you did.Ok so where is the issue?
I don't know what you mean by "appear to be saying". I quoted from Exodus 23. I noted theYou appear to be saying that the scriptures say to treat your enemy harshly but the text you quote says the opposite. What am I missing?
ok but how is that getting you to the conclusion "An example of what James is teaching would be to ignore this from Torah, sin by inaction."
I am not following the point apparently.
I quoted from Exodus 23. I noted theconsistency with that to what Jesus said in Matthew 5. Where do I say to treat enemies harshly?
I said that to ignore Exodus 23, you would be sinning by inaction, which is reflected in what
James said. I then went on to say that because the Holy Spirit has been given, we also sin
by inaction if the Holy Spirit convicts us to help out, say a complete stranger, but we ignore Him.
This is more than what has been written in the Torah.
Of course not. OT sin of omission is a sin of not doing, like not helping get your enemy's
Ok - I think we agree on what the Bible is saying OT and NT - the part that I was confused about is this ""An example of what James is teaching would be to ignore this from Torah, sin by inaction." - it looked to me like you were saying that James is teaching that we need to ignore some part of the Torah.
Of course not. OT sin of omission is a sin of not doing, like not helping get your enemy's
ass out a ditch.
NT sin of omission is ignoring the directive of the Spirit that you are supposedly walking in.
The NT always requires more of us, not less. Do you agree?
"And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two".