What is Sin?

[All Glory To God]

Greetings.

I started this thread to talk about sin.

I invite all members to offer their view on what sin is, its origin, the effect it has, how it relates to Gods decrees and any other aspect related to sin.

Feel free to contribute.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Greetings.

I started this thread to talk about sin.

I invite all members to offer their view on what sin is, its origin, the effect it has, how it relates to Gods decrees and any other aspect related to sin.

Feel free to contribute.

Hi All Glory to God,

Nice to meet you and nice name!

According to scripture sin is the transgression of God's laws 1 John 3:4

 

[Clare73]

Greetings.
I started this thread to talk about sin.
I invite all members to offer their view on what sin is, its origin, the effect it has, how it relates to Gods decrees and any other aspect related to sin.
Feel free to contribute.

Sin is "missing the mark" of God's will/commands.

 

[All Glory To God]

Hi All Glory to God,




According to scripture sin is the transgression of God's laws 1 John 3:4

Likewise! Nice to meet you sister.

What would you say the law that is mentioned is?

 

[All Glory To God]

Sin is "falling short of the mark" of God's commands.

I have heard it said that when we sin we "miss the mark".

The natural question to ask from this point is how do we know where the mark is, or what needs to be done in order to fulfill Gods will?

 

[Clare73]

I have heard it said that when we sin we "miss the mark".

The natural question to ask from this point is
how do we know where the mark is, or what needs to be done in order to fulfill Gods will?

That is everywhere found in the NT, the primary mark being sanctification/holiness.

"It is God's will that you be sanctified. . ." (1 Thessalonians 4:3)

". . .be holy in all you do; for it is written: 'Be holy, because I am holy--Leviticus 11:44-45.' "
(1 Peter 1:15-16)

". . .called to be holy" (1 Corinthians 1:2)

. . .slaves to sin which leads to death. . .slaves to obedience which leads to righteousness."
(Romans 6:16)

"Just as you used to offer parts of your body in slavery to impurity, so now
offer your body in slavery to righteousness leading to holiness." (Romans 6:19)

Now that you have. . .become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness. (Romans 6:22)

". . .let us purify ourselves from everthing that contaminates body and spirit,
perfecting (completing) holiness out of reverence for God. (2 Corinthians 7:1)

In addition to being declared sanctified/holy through faith in Christ's atoning death on the cross (i.e., justification),
the NT likewise teaches being made sanctified/holy by the work of the Holy Spirit in the lives of believers (i.e., process of
sanctification), through obedience in the Holy Spirit.

The NT presents two kinds of righteousness/sanctification/holiness:

righteousness of justification (positional--right standing with God's justice--not guilty, righteous, sanctified) and

righteousness of sanctification (progressive--a process of growth in sancification/holiness).

We are everywhere in the NT commanded to engage in the action of a process of holiness/sanctification in our lives.

"Without holiness, no one will see the Lord." (Hebrews 12:14)

 

[pescador]

In a religious context, sin is a transgression against divine law. Each culture has its own interpretation of what it means to commit a sin. While sins are generally considered actions, any thought, word, or act considered immoral, selfish, shameful, harmful, or alienating might be termed "sinful". Wikipedia

My personal definition is doing anything contrary to God's will, even if done unintentionally.

 

[All Glory To God]

That is everywhere found in the NT, the primary mark being sanctification/holiness.

"It is God's will that you be sanctified. . ." (1 Thessalonians 4:3)

". . .be holy in all you do; for it is written: 'Be holy, because I am holy--Leviticus 11:44-45.' "
(1 Peter 1:15-16)

". . .called to be holy" (1 Corinthians 1:2)

. . .slaves to sin which leads to death. . .slaves to obedience which leads to righteousness."
(Romans 6:16)

"Just as you used to offer parts of your body in slavery to impurity, so now
offer your body in slavery to righteousness leading to holiness." (Romans 6:19)

Now that you have. . .become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness. (Romans 6:22)

". . .let us purify ourselves from everthing that contaminates body and spirit,
perfecting (completing) holiness out of reverence for God. (2 Corinthians 7:1)

In addition to being declared sanctified/holy through faith in Christ's atoning death on the cross (i.e., justification),
the NT likewise teaches being made sanctified/holy by the work of the Holy Spirit in the lives of believers (i.e., process of
sanctification), through obedience in the Holy Spirit.

The NT presents two kinds of righteousness/sanctification/holiness:

righteousness of justification (positional--right standing with God's justice--not guilty, righteous, sanctified) and

righteousness of sanctification (progressive--a process of growth in sancification/holiness).

We are everywhere in the NT commanded to engage in the action of a process of holiness/sanctification in our lives.

"Without holiness, no one will see the Lord." (Hebrews 12:14)

Gotcha.

And why do you think we miss the mark in the first place?

 

[GallagherM]

Hello AGTG

Sin was paid for on the cross two thousand years ago, once for all people by the Lord Jesus Christ whom was sent by God to help give us the Holy Spirit to live by faith and trust in God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

So that in this life we may find in living in the Holy Spirit inwardly there is peace with God by and through Faith.

We have been redeemed from the dominion of darkness and transferred in to the Kingdom of Gods Son. God through His Son is now reconciled the world back unto himself in which was lost to sin; which is now paid for.

In this life there are people who will seek after God or not seek after God.

It’s out individual choice whether we will live by the commandments of willingly choosing to Love God and to willingly choose to love neighbor by the spirit.

What are your thoughts about sin?

 

[All Glory To God]

In a religious context, sin is a transgression against divine law.

I agree this is a scriptural definition of sin.

Each culture has its own interpretation of what it means to commit a sin.

Well, cultures/countries can interpret what they like but it does not change Gods will for man.

While sins are generally considered actions, any thought, word, or act considered immoral, selfish, shameful, harmful, or alienating might be termed "sinful" Wikipedia .

This speaks to the nature of humanity. Not just deeds but our very constitution, like our thoughts. And this becomes very complicated to separate out when we are following Gods will, and when we are following the lusts of the flesh, and fulfilling the works thereof.

I'm glad you introduced the subject!

My personal definition is doing anything contrary to God's will, even if done unintentionally.

I agree, and I also believe we are born with a sinful nature.

 

[GallagherM]

While sticking to what was presented for Christians the sin that they commit is when they fail to love God and neighbor as themselves.

For unbelievers their sin is the sin of unbelief.

Jesus did pay for the world and it sin and fixed the world: but as individual people we are all broken we have all fallen short of the glory of God and none of us are good; nor can merit the saying I’m better than so and so; we all failed the test since birth being spiritually dead.

A person can also reap to the flesh or reap to the spirit : even as a Christian.

We can grow spiritually from reading the Bible and maturing as a Christian or stay babes in Christ God doesn’t favor one over the other he loves both, and the unbeliever but the unbelievers choice is their choice.

Jesus Christ will always be the solution to our life to be set free in the truth that he brings to the table. He is the truth the way and the life, no one comes to God except by and through him.

Thank you for the topic sir and letting me post.

 

[All Glory To God]

Hello AGTG

Sin was paid for on the cross two thousand years ago, once for all people by the Lord Jesus Christ whom was sent by God to help give us the Holy Spirit to live by faith and trust in God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

So that in this life we may find in living in the Holy Spirit inwardly there is peace with God by and through Faith.

We have been redeemed from the dominion of darkness and transferred in to the Kingdom of Gods Son. God through His Son is now reconciled the world back unto himself in which was lost to sin; which is now paid for.

In this life there are people who will seek after God or not seek after God.

It’s out individual choice whether we will live by the commandments of willingly choosing to Love God and to willingly choose to love neighbor by the spirit.

What are your thoughts about sin?

Hi GallagherM.

I liked most of what you wrote. I saw the request for my view of sin and I will do that tomorrow, as this will be the last post for me tonight.

Before I sign off I did want to ask you a question about the atoning work of Christ you wrote. You said ''Sin was paid for on the cross two thousand years ago, once for all people by the Lord Jesus Christ''. Now the question I have is when someones sins are paid for, they are saved. By the redemptive work of Christ, correct? And if Christ paid ''for all peoples'' sin, that means all people are saved too, correct? But if all people are saved, what was the purpose of the cross? It seems a pointless exercise on Gods part if he intends to save all people in the end regardless if they have Christ as their savior, or not.

Anyway, good talking to you and we can continue tomorrow.

 

[GallagherM]

It means Jesus Christ reconciled the world back to God paying for all of mankind’s sin.

Jesus Christ fixed what Adam had messed up; and Jesus Christ fixed the world 2000 years ago.

For the most part I’ll say this friend

I’m saying all mankind sin past, present, future when they are born has been paid for: but not everyone is saved to the kingdom of heaven. For not everyone has faith on Christ, and for clarity sake of any more questions.

God is incompressible; though through scripture God is love (period). It’s also the glory of God to conceal matters and kings search it out. Proverbs 25:2

Praise be to God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Take care rest well.

 

[Clare73]

Gotcha.

And why do you think we miss the mark in the first place?

Fallen nature, our "gift" from Adam, which prefers self over God, wants to be governed only by self.

 

[Clare73]

In a religious context, sin is a transgression against divine law. Each culture has its own interpretation of what it means to commit a sin. While sins are generally considered actions, any thought, word, or act considered immoral, selfish, shameful, harmful, or alienating might be termed "sinful". Wikipedia

My personal definition is doing anything contrary to God's will, even if done unintentionally.

Yeah. . .that's what I meant.

 

[com7fy8]

Sin is anything that is not God's will . . . not pleasing to God, I mean . . . in character, feelings, thoughts, word, deed, whatever . . . how we react in relating . . . what is not in God's love.

How do you know what is sin and what isn't? The Bible has very clear things, and God is able to have us know things which are not clearly stated in His word. And we help each other. I find there are things we grow to know.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Likewise! Nice to meet you sister.

What would you say the law that is mentioned is?

It's all the laws except the ordinances in the law of Moses, which includes blood sacrifice, annual feasts days and physical circumcision Colossians 2:14-23 as Jesus was our perfect sacrifice and died so we can be saved from our sin. What did not end with the cross are God's commandments that we are told are eternal Psalms 89:34

Sin is also knowing you should do the right thing, but not doing it.

James 4:17 Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin.

 

[All Glory To God]

@GallagherM as agreed I will give my view on sin.

Sin is form, not a substance but something that is intrinsically part of the human experience. The way Adams transgression is passed on through his descendants is a moral failing and corruption, caused by the separation from God.

All sin is inside of Gods providence and council, although God is not the source of sin. The source of sin that ultimately produces this is the human heart.

God directs and decress sin but is free from sin. There is nothing out of Gods will, knowledge or power-including sin.

At what point in time did God decree for Adam to sin? Something I am undecided on.

 

[pescador]

@GallagherM as agreed I will give my view on sin.

Sin is form, not a substance but something that is intrinsically part of the human experience. The way Adams transgression is passed on through his descendants is a moral failing and corruption, caused by the separation from God.

All sin is inside of Gods providence and council, although God is not the source of sin. The source of sin that ultimately produces this is the human heart.

God directs and decress sin but is free from sin. There is nothing out of Gods will, knowledge or power-including sin.

At what point in time did God decree for Adam to sin? Something I am undecided on.

I don't agree that God decreed Adam (and Eve) to sin. God created them, man and woman, and gave them free will. They chose to sin by ignoring God's command, preferring the knowledge of good and evil instead of having life by trusting and believing God.

 

[All Glory To God]

It's all the laws except the ordinances in the law of Moses, which includes blood sacrifice, annual feasts days and physical circumcision Colossians 2:14-23 as Jesus was our perfect sacrifice and died so we can be saved from our sin. What did not end with the cross are God's commandments that we are told are eternal Psalms 89:34

Sin is also knowing you should do the right thing, but not doing it.

James 4:17 Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin.

Interesting.

When you quoted from 1 John to give sin a definition, I was expecting you to use the same book as a definition for law: 1 John 3:23