JESUS and the APOSTLES OBEYED GOD'S LAW and the SABBATH!

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It's really not helpful at all. You still haven't answered my question regarding the "sin sacrifice" of the High Priest. Your seem to be conflating קרבן and זבח.
Not at all. Why are you trying to argue victim and sacrifice (קרבן and זבח) in Hebrew to Greek language application to Hebrews 10:1-10? Perhaps you need to explain yourself better. I think the scriptures already shared with you have answered your questions.
 
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The first was from a Hebrew and Greek Dictionary with Strong's Concordance word numbers

How about these?

Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew & Thayer Greek Definitions - H819
אשׁמה
'ashmâh
BDB Definition:
1) guiltiness, guilt, offense, sin, wrong-doing
1a) doing wrong, committing a trespass or offense
1b) becoming guilty, guilt
1c) bringing a guilt-offering
Part of Speech: noun feminine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong's Number: from H817
Same Word by TWOT Number: 180c

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Ancient Hebrew Lexicon of the Bible - H819
Strongs #819: AHLB#: 1473-C (N1)
1473) Ms% (Ms% ShM) ac: Breathe co: Breath ab: Desolate: The wind, or breath, of someone or something is its character.
A) Ms% (Ms% ShM) ac: ? co: Breath ab: Desolate: Hebrew names are words given to describe character.
Nm) Ms% (Ms% ShM) - I. Breath: The breath of a man is character, what makes one what he is. The name of an individual is more than an identifier but descriptive of his character or breath. II. There: Used to identify another place. [Hebrew and Aramaic] III. Sky: The place of the winds. [Hebrew and Aramaic; Only used in the masculine plural form, mims or nims in Aramaic] IV. Aroma: A sweet aroma that is carried on the wind or breath. [DF: Mo] [Freq. 1365] | KJV: name, renown, fame, famous, heaven, air, sweet, there | H5561, H8033, H8034, H8036, H8064, H8065, H8536
Nf1) Ems% (Ems% Sh-MH) - Desolate: A wind blowing over the land pulls the moisture out of the ground drying it up, making a place of ruin or desert. [Freq. 39] | KJV: astonishment, desolation, desolate, waste, wonderful | H8047
kf1) Emsm% (Emsm% MSh-MH) - Desolate: A wind blowing over the land pulls the moisture out of the ground drying it up, making a place of ruin or desert. [Freq. 7] | KJV: desolate, astonishment | H4923
nmm) Nmsa% (Nmsa% ASh-MN) - Desolate: A wind blowing over the land pulls the moisture out of the ground drying it up, making a place of ruin or desert. [Freq. 1] | KJV: desolate | H820
B) Mms% (Mms% ShMM) ac: ? co: ? ab: Desolate: A wind blowing over the land pulls the moisture out of the ground drying it up, making a place of ruin or desert. One in horror or in astonishment is one dried up in the inside.
V) Mms% (Mms% Sh-MM) - Desolate: [Hebrew and Aramaic] [Freq. 93] (vf: Paal, Niphal, Hiphil, Hitpael, Hophal, Piel) | KJV: desolate, astonish, waste, destroy, wonder, amaze | H8074, H8075
Nf1) Emms% (Emms% ShM-MH) - Desolate: [Freq. 58] | KJV: desolate, waste | H8077
ejm) Nfmmis% (Nfmmis% ShY-M-MWN) - Desolation: [Freq. 2] | KJV: astonishment | H8078
C) Msa% (Msa% AShM) ac: ? co: ? ab: Guilt: One with a character of wrongdoing.
V) Msa% (Msa% A-ShM) - Guilt: [Freq. 35] (vf: Paal, Niphal, Hiphil) | KJV: guilty, desolate, offend, trespass, destroy, faulty, offence | H816
Nm) Msa% (Msa% A-ShM) - Guilt: [Freq. 49] | KJV: trespass, sin, guiltiness | H817, H818
Nf1) Emsa% (Emsa% ASh-MH) - Guilt: [Freq. 19] | KJV: trespass, sin, offend | H819
G) Mes% (Mes% ShHM) ac: ? co: ? ab: ?: [Unknown meaning;]
Nm) Mes% (Mes% Sh-HM) - Shoham: An unknown stone. [Freq. 11] | KJV: onyx | H7718
J) Mfs% (Mfs% ShWM) ac: Smell co: Garlic ab: ?: A sense of smell from breathing.
Nm) Mfs% (Mfs% ShWM) - Garlic: From its strong odor. [Freq. 1] | KJV: garlick | H7762
L) Msi% (Msi% YShM) ac: ? co: Desert ab: Desolate: A wind blowing over the land pulls the moisture out of the ground drying it up, making a place of ruin or desert.
V) Msi% (Msi% Y-ShM) - Desolate: [Freq. 4] (vf: Paal) | KJV: desolate | H3456
bf1) Emisi% (Emisi% Y-ShY-MH) - Desolate: [Freq. 1] | KJV: seize | H3451
bjm) Nfmisi% (Nfmisi% Y-ShY-MWN) - Desert: A desolate place. [Freq. 13] | KJV: desert, wilderness, solitary | H3452

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Hope this is more to your liking.

I'm glad that it would seem that we can agree that the previous translation that you posted is flawed.

Hopefully you won't retain a doctrine that is built on a flawed translation.
 
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Not at all. Why are you trying to argue victim and sacrifice (קרבן and זבח) in Hebrew to Greek language application to Hebrews 10:1-10? Perhaps you need to explain yourself better. I think the scriptures already shared with you have answered your questions.

I broke it down fairly well in my study. Have you taken the time to review it?
 
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I'm glad that it would seem that we can agree that the previous translation that you posted is flawed. Hopefully you won't retain a doctrine that is built on a flawed translation.

Actually post # 2080 linked disagrees with you. I just posted other Dictionaries and Lexicons that supported the first Hebrew and Greek dictionary's meaning of אשׁמה
 
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I broke it down fairly well in my study. Have you taken the time to review it?
Indeed and you have been shown from the scriptures (Hebrews 7:1-25; Hebrew 8:1-13; Hebrews 9:1-27 and Hebrews 10:1-22) why I believe what your posting is not biblical in regards to the laws for remission of sins not being fulfilled in Christ based on better promises who now ministers on our behalf in the heavenly Sanctuary that the Lord pitched and not man. Of course you are free to believe as you wish and we will agree to disagree. I think I am still waiting for you to catch up at the moment.
 
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It was already answered earlier as all sin which was already stated

I have yet to see you prove that out in scripture.

A bare assertion doesn't suffice with me.
 
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It was already answered earlier as all sin which was already stated

I have yet to see you prove out your statement with scripture.

A bare assertion doesn't suffice with me.

Hyphenating your statement, and repeating it ad nauseam, doesn't prove your assertion either.
 
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I have yet to see you prove that out in scripture.
A bare assertion doesn't suffice with me.
I respectfully disagree as I have only posted scripture. Isaiah says many choose to close their eyes and ears to it though in Isaiah 6:9-10. I pray none of us will find ourselves in this group that Jesus and Paul also quote in Matthew 13:15-16 and Acts of the Apostles 28:26-27. I do not think it is being honest of you to claim I have not provided scripture when all I have provided in our discussion with you is scripture showing why I might agree or disagree with you. Of course you are free to believe whatever you like. That is between you and God and we will agree to disagree.
 
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I have yet to see you prove out your statement with scripture. A bare assertion doesn't suffice with me. Hyphenating your statement, and repeating it ad nauseam, doesn't prove your assertion either.

Scripture is not bare assertion and ignoring it does not make it disappear. Your claims here have already been addressed with scripture in post # 2075 linked. What is it you do not believe?
 
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Well yes I do. What does this have to do with the Greek we are discussing in Hebrews 10:1-10? - Nothing

The Book of Hebrews was written be a Hebrew, to Hebrews. It was likely originally written in Hebrew according to Clement of Alexandria. The author didn't just pull the passage that was quoting out of this air. He pulled it from the TaNaK. It is to be understood by a Hebrew audience, through a Hebrew perspective, In fact, the TaNaK lays a foundation for the B'rit Chadasha. If one doesn't understand the TaNaK; how can one expect to understand the B'rit Chadasha?
 
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The Book of Hebrews was written be a Hebrew, to Hebrews. It was likely originally written in Hebrew according to Clement of Alexandria. The author didn't just pull the passage that was quoting out of this air. He pulled it from the TaNaK. It is to be understood by a Hebrew audience, through a Hebrew perspective, In fact, the TaNaK lays a foundation for the B'rit Chadasha. If one doesn't understand the TaNaK; how can one expect to understand the B'rit Chadasha?
Does not change what is written though.
 
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Scripture is not bare assertion and ignoring it does not make it disappear. Your claims here have already been addressed with scripture in post # 2075 linked. What is it you do not believe?

You cited Hebrews 10:3 to support your bare assertion. That's not what Hebrews 10:3 says, nor does it support your bare assertion.

Exhibit A:

All sin was to be brought into the Sanctuary every year by year which culminated in the cleansing of all sin from the Sanctuary on the great day of atonement once a year which leads us into Hebrews 10:3
 
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Does not change what is written though.

What is written, or what was written?

That wasn't my point. The referenced passage is quoting the TaNaK. To best understand the reference, it is best to start with the source.
 
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I respectfully disagree as I have only posted scripture. Isaiah says many choose to close their eyes and ears to it though in Isaiah 6:9-10. I pray none of us will find ourselves in this group that Jesus and Paul also quote in Matthew 13:15-16 and Acts of the Apostles 28:26-27. I do not think it is being honest of you to claim I have not provided scripture when all I have provided in our discussion with you is scripture showing why I might agree or disagree with you. Of course you are free to believe whatever you like. That is between you and God and we will agree to disagree.

I'll take Yah's word over yours; but thanks for sharing.

See: Post# 2094
 
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I respectfully disagree as I have only posted scripture. Isaiah says many choose to close their eyes and ears to it though in Isaiah 6:9-10. I pray none of us will find ourselves in this group that Jesus and Paul also quote in Matthew 13:15-16 and Acts of the Apostles 28:26-27. I do not think it is being honest of you to claim I have not provided scripture when all I have provided in our discussion with you is scripture showing why I might agree or disagree with you. Of course you are free to believe whatever you like. That is between you and God and we will agree to disagree.

Again, See: Post# 2094
 
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Indeed and you have been shown from the scriptures (Hebrews 7:1-25; Hebrew 8:1-13; Hebrews 9:1-27 and Hebrews 10:1-22) why I believe what your posting is not biblical in regards to the laws for remission of sins not being fulfilled in Christ based on better promises who now ministers on our behalf in the heavenly Sanctuary that the Lord pitched and not man. Of course you are free to believe as you wish and we will agree to disagree. I think I am still waiting for you to catch up at the moment.

Your strawman argument doesn't answer my question.
 
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Which "sacrifice" would that be according to YHWH's law?
Day of Atonement. The Lamb slain from the foundation of the World.

Sin taken away. Vessels made fit, purged. No more conscience of sins. Sanctified, vessels made fit to serve the living God once and for all. Perfected, were in the Holy Ghost witnessed, as was said before. For God has said He will put His Laws in our hearts and in our minds.

Therefore having boldness to enter into holiest of all. The way having been made through the veil that is to say His flesh. Have full assurance, with our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience. Hold fast to this profession, provoke one another unto good works as we see the day approaching. For if we are sinning willfully after we received the knowledge of this truth there remains no more sacrifice for sin.

Lev 16:11 And Aaron shall bring the bullock of the sin offering, which is for himself, and shall make an atonement for himself, and for his house, and shall kill the bullock of the sin offering which is for himself:


Heb 9:7 But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
Heb 9:8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
Heb 9:9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;
Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
Heb 9:11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Heb 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Heb 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
Heb 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
Heb 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
Heb 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Heb 10:11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
Heb 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
Heb 10:13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
Heb 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
Heb 10:15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

Heb 10:19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
Heb 10:20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
Heb 10:21 And having an high priest over the house of God;
Heb 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
Heb 10:23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised
Heb 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Heb 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
 
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