It's impossible to buy anything from anywhere (Woke Bandwagon)

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I was a little kid in the 80s and a teenager in the 90s and I don't remember all these companies jumping on political bandwagons. Perhaps people older than me can shed some light on that. It's so easy to say "I'm not shopping there anymore" or "I'm not buying that product anymore" but it's getting harder and harder to actually do. The very places where we have to buy groceries are all jumping on the Pride, Diversity/Inclusion/Equity bandwagons and there is pretty much nowhere to go to escape this anymore. How much culpability do we as Catholics have when we have to get our groceries from places that are promoting all of these things?
 

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I was a little kid in the 80s and a teenager in the 90s and I don't remember all these companies jumping on political bandwagons. Perhaps people older than me can shed some light on that. It's so easy to say "I'm not shopping there anymore" or "I'm not buying that product anymore" but it's getting harder and harder to actually do. The very places where we have to buy groceries are all jumping on the Pride, Diversity/Inclusion/Equity bandwagons and there is pretty much nowhere to go to escape this anymore. How much culpability do we as Catholics have when we have to get our groceries from places that are promoting all of these things?

You don't shop at stores that promote equality? Is that just for pride, or overall?
 
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I was a little kid in the 80s and a teenager in the 90s and I don't remember all these companies jumping on political bandwagons. Perhaps people older than me can shed some light on that. It's so easy to say "I'm not shopping there anymore" or "I'm not buying that product anymore" but it's getting harder and harder to actually do. The very places where we have to buy groceries are all jumping on the Pride, Diversity/Inclusion/Equity bandwagons and there is pretty much nowhere to go to escape this anymore. How much culpability do we as Catholics have when we have to get our groceries from places that are promoting all of these things?

I'm not Catholic but I agree with you 100%. I heard a good definition as to WHY these companies are all coming out WOKE.

They KNOW that they will make the LEFT HAPPY if they come out WOKE, and that will be good for business. They also know that the RIGHT, even though they won't be HAPPY, they will continue to purchase from them (for the most part), as the RIGHT sadly doesn't make decisions about where they SHOP based on their POLTICAL IDEAS, whereas the LEFT DOES. So if they were to take a NON-WOKE stand, they would LOSE the LEFT. But by taking a WOKE STAND, they keep the LEFT and most of the RIGHT. It's ALL about $$$$.
 
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I was a little kid in the 80s and a teenager in the 90s and I don't remember all these companies jumping on political bandwagons. Perhaps people older than me can shed some light on that. It's so easy to say "I'm not shopping there anymore" or "I'm not buying that product anymore" but it's getting harder and harder to actually do. The very places where we have to buy groceries are all jumping on the Pride, Diversity/Inclusion/Equity bandwagons and there is pretty much nowhere to go to escape this anymore. How much culpability do we as Catholics have when we have to get our groceries from places that are promoting all of these things?
I don't rush to boycott. They have to really shove it in my face before I step back and don't buy from them. What I should do, when I do step back from a store or a product is let them know why they have lost a customer. I should. The risk to that is ending up on some sort of woke cancellation hit list. But maybe that would be a good thing, a stand in and of itself.
 
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You don't shop at stores that promote equality? Is that just for pride, or overall?

Promoting such damaging movements is evil. Damaging to the individuals and damaging to the society as a whole. 'Pride' is a symptom of deep sickness in society. Thus as the scriptures and the whole tradition of the Church attest. We call for the repentance of all those who are lost in their sexual perversities.
 
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I was a little kid in the 80s and a teenager in the 90s and I don't remember all these companies jumping on political bandwagons. Perhaps people older than me can shed some light on that. It's so easy to say "I'm not shopping there anymore" or "I'm not buying that product anymore" but it's getting harder and harder to actually do. The very places where we have to buy groceries are all jumping on the Pride, Diversity/Inclusion/Equity bandwagons and there is pretty much nowhere to go to escape this anymore. How much culpability do we as Catholics have when we have to get our groceries from places that are promoting all of these things?

You're not wrong at all, there used to be a divide between marketing and politics. And you know what? This wouldn't be happening without social media. Social media gave people the means to mobilize boycott initiatives and "cancel" movements, and that mentality has spread like wildfire. I'll admit we conservatives do this too, look at Netflix. When they released that French docuseries that was basically about pimping young children, there was [righteous] outrage amongst conservatives that prompted a trend of conservatives cancelling their subscriptions to the service.

But I think Netflix is a just example of lay people like ourselves using one of the few tools we have to influence culture (outside of votes).

Social media, being a creature of the tech sector, is naturally oriented towards liberal ideology. It's an industry run from top-to-bottom by people who are at the tip of the radically-liberal spear, so their views are going to steer the ship. And so they make their platforms readily available to promote the companies that loudly advocate for their immoral views, and suppress the ones who oppose them. This is proven by the fact that the first thing a corporation does when they want to announce they're supporting 'pride' is change their profile picture to some sort of rainbow variation. That's their first move because they know that'll have the farthest and fastest impact.

Elevating evil, and crushing good.
 
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I hear you, but the dilemma is “where to shop”? Every company, it seems, at least food companies, have jumped on are are likely to jump on the bandwagon.

Finding companies which refuse to accept and encourage this sort of thing will be almost impossible soon.
 
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I hear you, but the dilemma is “where to shop”? Every company, it seems, at least food companies, have jumped on are are likely to jump on the bandwagon.

Finding companies which refuse to accept and encourage this sort of thing will be almost impossible soon.
I don't think we have a duty to boycott everything connected to nasty positions. I don't think we sin if we buy their products. But we can boycott some things judiciously where it might make a bit of difference. I don't exactly know how to measure that. In the mean tome I will not boycott anything until they shove their crudities in my face. I'm not seeking them out. They have to offend me.

What do other people think?
 
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I don't think we have a duty to boycott everything connected to nasty positions. I don't think we sin if we buy their products. But we can boycott some things judiciously where it might make a bit of difference. I don't exactly know how to measure that. In the mean tome I will not boycott anything until they shove their crudities in my face. I'm not seeking them out. They have to offend me.

What do other people think?
I think it’s an impossible task. Companies will jump on anything if they think it will draw more profit. I think the main concern is being canceled. Do these companies believe in every ideological bandwagon? I doubt it. Like you said, unless they are trying to indoctrinate me or are doing something horribly offensive or unjust I can’t move past, I can’t try to shop trying to sidestep every land mine in the grocery aisles. I just have to shop and try to make a difference in other ways. I try to buy as local as I can anyway.
 
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Yeah I just wanted to say I wasn't advocating boycotting; I was simply stressing how worried I was in culpability due to shopping in stores that do this stuff.
I would not be super concerned about it unless it’s something you just can’t live with.
 
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I don't think we have a duty to boycott everything connected to nasty positions. I don't think we sin if we buy their products. But we can boycott some things judiciously where it might make a bit of difference. I don't exactly know how to measure that. In the mean tome I will not boycott anything until they shove their crudities in my face. I'm not seeking them out. They have to offend me.

What do other people think?
I would never buy a product with a gay pride flag plastered on the packaging. But boycotting entire stores will likely be difficult.
 
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