Fathers perfect eternal plan?

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  • Psalm 110:1 (KJV)
    The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
  • Matthew 5:35 (KJV)
    nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
  • Genesis 2:17 (KJV)
    but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
  • Genesis 3:24 (KJV)
    So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
  • Revelation 22:14 (KJV)
    Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
  • Revelation 12:9 (KJV)
    And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
  • Genesis 6:4 (KJV)
    There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.


Father in heaven did not guard the tree of the knowledge of good and evil he only guarded the tree of Life after Adam and Eve were deceived.

Father knew satan was going to deceive Adam and Eve before the beginning. I believe satan was actually played at his own game literally deceiving himself and his angels.

I believe Adam was meant to eat from it, to be sent to earth to draw out satan and his angels I believe overtime they also ate from it one by one.

I believe they are here amongst us in positions of power, influence and prominence and in everyday life including family and all now cast out of heaven.

The only way back is to submit to Jesus Christ for eternity with a true heart for the right to eat from the tree of Life the perfect plan.
 

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First, I think it is clear what our Father's overall plan is >

"For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren." (Romans 8:29)

And the way to this is >
to submit to Jesus Christ for eternity with a true heart
So, in case this is not the focus of our prayer, this might be why we pray for God to protect our tulips from rabbits and He does not seem to hear our prayer.

We need to hear Him, in prayer > "swift to hear" (in James 1:19-20).

"Him we preach, warning every man and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus. To this end I also labor, striving according to His working which works in me mightily." (in Colossians 1:28-29)

You say "submit to Jesus Christ for eternity". So, I would say this includes submitting to God in order for God to change us to become and to love like Jesus, plus to minister this to others . . . however God in us works us to do this with Him.

Our Heavenly Father is so pleased with His own Son. So, He desires to have many more like Jesus so pleasing to Him. So, this is His basic eternal motivation, I would say.
 
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  • Psalm 110:1 (KJV)
    The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
  • Matthew 5:35 (KJV)
    nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
  • Genesis 2:17 (KJV)
    but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
  • Genesis 3:24 (KJV)
    So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
  • Revelation 22:14 (KJV)
    Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
  • Revelation 12:9 (KJV)
    And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
  • Genesis 6:4 (KJV)
    There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Father in heaven did not guard the tree of the knowledge of good and evil he only guarded the tree of Life after Adam and Eve were deceived.

Father knew satan was going to deceive Adam and Eve before the beginning. I believe satan was actually played at his own game literally deceiving himself and his angels.

I believe Adam was meant to eat from it, to be sent to earth to draw out satan and his angels I believe overtime they also ate from it one by one.

I believe they are here amongst us in positions of power, influence and prominence and in everyday life including family and all now cast out of heaven.

The only way back is to submit to Jesus Christ for eternity with a true heart for the right to eat from the tree of Life the perfect plan.
Interesting conclusions however, God's plan may not be all about Satan but rather ,all about restoration. Satan is sent forth by God to test man. We see this over and over in scrpture. Even Christ Himself was tested. The tree of life is the Holy Spirit that brings us into union with The Father. Jesus Christ of Nazareth restored this relationship , once lost through Adam, by His sacrifice on the cross. Only those who partake in His Living Waters will realize His "perfect plan" of salvation from the second death. Blessings.
 
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  • Psalm 110:1 (KJV)
    The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
  • Matthew 5:35 (KJV)
    nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
  • Genesis 2:17 (KJV)
    but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
  • Genesis 3:24 (KJV)
    So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
  • Revelation 22:14 (KJV)
    Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
  • Revelation 12:9 (KJV)
    And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
  • Genesis 6:4 (KJV)
    There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Father in heaven did not guard the tree of the knowledge of good and evil he only guarded the tree of Life after Adam and Eve were deceived.

Father knew satan was going to deceive Adam and Eve before the beginning. I believe satan was actually played at his own game literally deceiving himself and his angels.

I believe Adam was meant to eat from it, to be sent to earth to draw out satan and his angels I believe overtime they also ate from it one by one.

I believe they are here amongst us in positions of power, influence and prominence and in everyday life including family and all now cast out of heaven.

The only way back is to submit to Jesus Christ for eternity with a true heart for the right to eat from the tree of Life the perfect plan.


Father in heaven did not guard the tree of the knowledge of good and evil he only guarded the tree of Life after Adam and Eve were deceived.

Adam and Eve were originally created immortal ... if the tree of life had not been guarded (after they sinned) then sin itself would have continued throughout eternity.
If they ate (tree of life), they would live forever in a sinful state and sin-cursed universe. This would mean no possibility of salvation to live in a new heavens and new earth without sin—one absent of pain and suffering.

Father knew satan was going to deceive Adam and Eve before the beginning. I believe satan was actually played at his own game literally deceiving himself and his angels.

I also believe to be true .... and that satans' self deception continues on ... he still thinks he and his minions can overthrow God.

I believe Adam was meant to eat from it, to be sent to earth to draw out satan and his angels I believe overtime they also ate from it one by one.

I don't believe this .... God's foreknowledge he knew they would sin .... so he put some things in place before they did. The first sin was committed in heaven by satan and his minions and again Gods foreknowledge knew they would. Even tho both (angels & humans) made bad decisions/choices .... God knew the decisions/choices they would make. God created all His intelligent beings and put them in the position of choice .... but did not make choices for them. He didn't create them for failure ... but knew that they would indeed fail.

When sin occurred in heaven God judged the fallen angels and sealed their ultimate fate (yet to come).


I believe they are here amongst us in positions of power, influence and prominence and in everyday life including family and all now cast out of heaven.

Certainly so and will continue until Jesus returns.

The only way back is to submit to Jesus Christ for eternity with a true heart for the right to eat from the tree of Life the perfect plan.

Yes .... humans are still in the position of choice ... until their earthly death or until Jesus returns. Jesus IS the tree of life.
 
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