Military commander removed after denouncing neo-Marxist critical race theory

[Jay Sea]

The military is an organisation of exploitation and dishonesty without care for their lower ranks. At least in world war 1 the leadership were honest enough to tell their new recruits that they could expect nothing but death.
It's mission is get the job done. Just look at care that vets do not get.

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Jay Sea

 

[Aryeh Jay]

The military is an organisation of exploitation and dishonesty without care for their lower ranks. At least in world war 1 the leadership were honest enough to tell their new recruits that they could expect nothing but death.
It's mission is get the job done. Just look at care that vets do not get.

In love
Jay Sea

Exactly the reason I returned to active duty. The opportunity to exploit people while accomplishing nothing yet still get a massive paycheck as opposed to the lemmings in the lower ranks with the added bonus of possibly dying for a country that doesn't care one way or the other. God! Why did I ever get out in the first place.

 

[Ana the Ist]

He said something to antagonize someone and is whining about it.

Did he?

And I said ‘all lives matter, every single one’, because I meant it. Do the lives of Black people matter? *REDACTED* yeah, the lives of Black people matter,” Napear told FOX40. “I’m for equality for all, that’s how I was raised. That’s how my dad brought up my brother and I."

That doesn't look much like antagonism. It looks like he genuinely believes all lives matter.

Why did I get fired for callously ignoring someone's house being on fire!

Callous?

“Do I make mistakes? Yeah, I make mistakes and if I make a mistake, I try to say that I’m sorry. But I’m not sorry for saying ‘all lives matter, every single one,’” he said. “I’m not sorry because I believe that every life is important. I’m not sorry because I believe in equality for all. I’m not sorry because I try to treat everyone, regardless of the color of their skin, the same."

I can't really say that I've ever seen a man affirming the humanity of all people and his desire to treat them equally as "callous".

Perhaps the problem is the house fire analogy is garbage. A handful of wrongful killings a year probably shouldn't be over dramatized by the language of catastrophe. Houses burn down after all....and ten years after this bad analogy it doesn't appear as if the house is anywhere near burning down.

Hong Kong? That's a house fire. The Uighurs? That's a tsunami. Those houses are being destroyed by oppression.

 

[disciple Clint]

Someone was fired for saying, “All lives matter.” Former Sacramento Kings announcer Grant Napear: "I’m not sorry for saying 'all lives matter'"
https://awfulannouncing.com/nba/for...im-not-sorry-for-saying-all-lives-matter.html
Federal workers are not supposed to do political activities at work. It is part of the Hatch Act.
https://www.ethics.usda.gov/science/docs/HatchAct-SocialMedia.pdf

So would that apply to federal workers who produce and distribute 1619 propaganda to our military?

 

[Aryeh Jay]

So would that apply to federal workers who produce and distribute 1619 propaganda to our military?

Funny, I have not received my 1619 propaganda yet. Perhaps it takes a while to reach Pearl Harbor.

 

[*Starlight*]

Calling it "neo-Marxist" isn't really accurate. There are actual, self-described Marxist who hate the critical race theory stuff too. They see it as a way to divide the working class by encouraging racial divisions, and dividing the working class is actually anti-Marxist, because the Marxist thing to do is to unite the working class. I'm not Marxist, but this argument makes sense, considering that critical race theory and other associated ideas are typically promoted by big corporations, organizations, etc.

 

[disciple Clint]

Funny, I have not received my 1619 propaganda yet. Perhaps it takes a while to reach Pearl Harbor.

Stand by, Lt. Col. Matthew Lohmeier said the videos were at his command.

 

[disciple Clint]

He said something to antagonize someone and is whining about it.

Why did I get fired for callously ignoring someone's house being on fire!

Propaganda, nothing but pure propaganda. God sees all lives as being equally valuable.

 

[disciple Clint]

The military is an organisation of exploitation and dishonesty without care for their lower ranks. At least in world war 1 the leadership were honest enough to tell their new recruits that they could expect nothing but death.
It's mission is get the job done. Just look at care that vets do not get.

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Jay Sea

before you speak about our military you should spend some time in it so you will know the truth for yourself.

 

[RDKirk]

And I'm guessing you're saying that's an "over the top" view of Marxism? The so called "culture war"? Or....

Is that offensive in some way?

It's an over-the-top way of describing what's actually happening in the military.

 

[RDKirk]

I wouldn't necessarily disagree. It's over the top.

I don't know if it's hysterical. There's definitely a vocal group of Neo-Marxists whether or not they realize that is the origin of their ideas. Marxist theory is centered on dialectic materialism...which for obvious reasons doesn't take hold in western civilization very well. Neo-Marxism therefore attempts to find oppression elsewhere, either with minorities (religious or racial) or in feminism as an impetus for revolution.

So...for the sake of discussion...obviously he can't be endorsing political views explicitly or implicitly as a service member (I'm pretty sure they have a rule against that).

On the flip side though....he also can't adopt Neo-Marxist ideas while upholding his oath either (regardless of which branch, I'm pretty sure there's a line about protecting the Constitution from enemies without and within the states). The military is ethically obligated to remain politically nuetral (though arguably it's core ideology is inherently Nationalistic just like any other military).

So I suppose this puts him at a sort of rock vs hard place situation in the event that Neo-Marxist ideas are actually being introduced into the military.

I don't know if they are, of course, but if they are....I don't know exactly what he should do.

The military has not turned Marxist just because he says it has. In fact, I seriously doubt he knows what Marxism actually is.

The Chinese Red Army tried to be Marxist...really Marxist, the way Marx wrote it. They actually failed, and the Red Army is not run as a Marxist organization anymore. It doesn't work. It's not what the US military is doing now, either.

 

[Ana the Ist]

The military has not turned Marxist just because he says it has. In fact, I seriously doubt he knows what Marxism actually is.

The Chinese Red Army tried to be Marxist...really Marxist, the way Marx wrote it. They actually failed, and the Red Army is not run as a Marxist organization anymore. It doesn't work. It's not what the US military is doing now, either.

Can you enlighten us to what is being done in the military?

 

[Ana the Ist]

Calling it "neo-Marxist" isn't really accurate. There are actual, self-described Marxist who hate the critical race theory stuff too. They see it as a way to divide the working class by encouraging racial divisions, and dividing the working class is actually anti-Marxist, because the Marxist thing to do is to unite the working class. I'm not Marxist, but this argument makes sense, considering that critical race theory and other associated ideas are typically promoted by big corporations, organizations, etc.

The problem with Marxism in the west is that generally speaking, the standard of living is too high to foment revolution. No one is actually being oppressed.

So Neo-Marxism focuses on other things than class struggle....racial divisions, religious divisions, divisions between the sexes, etc.

 

[dqhall]

So would that apply to federal workers who produce and distribute 1619 propaganda to our military?

I looked up “1619 project.” The 1619 project seems to be an attempt to glorify black contributions to society. I suppose it is similar to Irish Americans making a big deal out of St. Patrick’s Day. I know the Italian Americans in the North End of Boston may like Columbus Day. Columbus was Italian. They have a huge festival for St. Anthony’s Day. St Anthony was Italian. Italians invented lasagna and pizza. There is a long list of contributions made by England.

My dad was a military officer. At supper he used to tell us about people in the military are not allowed to be political. After he retired he went to work for a defense contractor. They raised funds for candidates of both parties in an attempt to gain favor. Typically they favored Republicans.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Can you enlighten us to what is being done in the military?

I don't think that RDKirk is still actively serving but I currently am and can tell you about what's going on in the Navy. Nothing much has changed since I left active duty in 2013. The same computers running the same windows 7, slightly changed CAC card, different uniforms, less smoking and drinking, pretty much the same ships with a few multi million aluminium thingies that they still don't know what to use them for when they work. Fewer paper manuals and more online/digital garbage, it would seem the exact same bandwidth as 10 years ago. A lot of ratings have changed names. There are no little red books, no prayers to Biden, no loyalty oath to the party (other than my oath of office, to the Constitution). No indoctrination on political correctness, no ANTIFA or BLM indoctrination. Other than the millenial sense of enlightenment among the younger people, it's the same as it was in the 2000s.

 

[RDKirk]

Can you enlighten us to what is being done in the military?

It is certainly not focused on increasing class struggle....racial divisions, religious divisions, divisions between the sexes.

It is explicitly focused on eliminating those elements from the military population. However, there is the peculiar thought that "if you don't talk about it, it will go away." That's ridiculous. No cancer ever went away by ignoring it.

 

[RDKirk]

My dad was a military officer. At supper he used to tell us about people in the military are not allowed to be political. After he retired he went to work for a defense contractor. They raised funds for candidates of both parties in an attempt to gain favor. Typically they favored Republicans.

I knew officers who went so far to be apolitical as to refuse to vote. Certainly, I never, ever knew the political party of any officer that I ever served with. I might guess one way or another, but I never knew it by anything they said explicitly.

 

[Ana the Ist]

It is explicitly focused on eliminating those elements from the military population.

How?

 

[RDKirk]

How?

By explicitly pointing out divisive attitudes and activities are inconducive to military cohesion. It's nothing new. The military was doing it back in the 70s.

My training instructor, Sergeant Jimmy Weeks, started us off on our first day in basic training:

"One thing we ain't gonna have in this flight is racial problems. The reason we ain't gonna have racial problems is because you ain't got no reason to have racial problems.

You're all the same color...namely green. You all got the same hair...namely none. You all got the same daddy...namely me. And you all got the same wants and desires...namely to get the @#$@& out of here!"

 

[Ana the Ist]

By explicitly pointing out divisive attitudes and activities are inconducive to military cohesion.

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