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Why would it matter, if God stated out right in a verse or verses that He created a stationary and flat earth. People would not believe it, they are going to believe what they want.
From my experience you are only describing creationists and other deniers of science. Scientists have to follow the evidence.
 
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OT God is jealous about all sorts of weird things.
Like Jerusalem?

Zechariah 1:14 So the angel that communed with me said unto me, Cry thou, saying, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; I am jealous for Jerusalem and for Zion with a great jealousy.
 
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From my experience you are only describing creationists and other deniers of science. Scientists have to follow the evidence.

If they have evidence disputing God's creation in the Bible lets see it have not seen any as of yet.

Like i was saying, simply show the saturn seen in so many images claimed to be saturn. Just simply show that saturn moving through the atmosphere. They have these million dollar telescopes, i am sure they can record an image of saturn moving, that is better than the one i recorded with my $1000 dollar camera.
 
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You are making a few assumptions 1. that there are planets, especially when there is no mention (in the Bible anywhere) of God creating planets.


LOL!! God did not mention He created the moon nor the sun either!! Seriously?

Explain a bottomless pit on a globe earth.


The word is abyss. From
άβυσσος
ávyssos
gorge chasm
crevasse cavity
fissure ravine
canyon pit
hollow pass
Rev is a symbolic book mostly.

It is the condition of the earth after the return of Jesus when He takes His saved back with Him to heaven for the 1000 years.

Rev_20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Jer 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
Jer 4:24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
Jer 4:25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
Jer 4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
Jer 4:27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.

Jesus comes back for the saved only---the living wicked are destroyed with the brightness of His coming. The saved are with Him---there is no one for Satan and His angels to deceive for a 1000 years. This broken down, desolate, empty earth is Satan's jail for those 1000 years. He can see what his rule has done. Not that is will change him. For after the 1000 years God will resurrect the all the wicked. And Satan gathers them together to go against the New Jerusalem---fire comes down from God and destroys Satan and all his followers---nothing but ashes left of them all. Sin is finally destroyed.

Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Eze 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
Eze 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
Eze 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.


When Jesus comes for the saved and we all go to heaven for those 1000 years----we will get to turn around when we are way out there and look back at the earth----then you will have your answer once and for all---flat or round?
 
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If they have evidence disputing God's creation in the Bible lets see it have not seen any as of yet.

Like i was saying, simply show the saturn seen in so many images claimed to be saturn. Just simply show that saturn moving through the atmosphere. They have these million dollar telescopes, i am sure they can record an image of saturn moving, that is better than the one i recorded with my $1000 dollar camera.
Probably because you do not understand the nature of evidence. You are probably blaming others for your own lack.

By the way, the fact that the Earth was formed by natural processes, and that man is the product of evolution does not "dispute God's creation". It only disputes false versions of it.
 
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LOL!! God did not mention He created the moon nor the sun either!! Seriously?

Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also.

No mention of planets in Genesis 1 But without actually naming the sun and moon by name, there is the account of God stating He created two great lights.

Then there is Paul mentioning The sun moon and stars but still no mention of planets again. Where as the moon, sun and stars are mentioned many time throughout the Bible, but not one time are planets mentioned.

There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.
 
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The word is abyss. From
άβυσσος
ávyssos
gorge chasm
crevasse cavity
fissure ravine
canyon pit
hollow pass
Rev is a symbolic book mostly.

It is the condition of the earth after the return of Jesus when He takes His saved back with Him to heaven for the 1000 years.

Rev_20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Jer 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
Jer 4:24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
Jer 4:25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
Jer 4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
Jer 4:27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.

Jesus comes back for the saved only---the living wicked are destroyed with the brightness of His coming. The saved are with Him---there is no one for Satan and His angels to deceive for a 1000 years. This broken down, desolate, empty earth is Satan's jail for those 1000 years. He can see what his rule has done. Not that is will change him. For after the 1000 years God will resurrect the all the wicked. And Satan gathers them together to go against the New Jerusalem---fire comes down from God and destroys Satan and all his followers---nothing but ashes left of them all. Sin is finally destroyed.

Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Eze 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
Eze 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
Eze 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.


When Jesus comes for the saved and we all go to heaven for those 1000 years----we will get to turn around when we are way out there and look back at the earth----then you will have your answer once and for all---flat or round?

I will pass, on getting into your view of the 1000 years etc..as it is to far off, to delve into.
 
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Then there is Paul mentioning The sun moon and stars but still no mention of planets again. Where as the moon, sun and stars are mentioned many time throughout the Bible, but not one time are planets mentioned.
Hebrews 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
 
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Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also.

No mention of planets in Genesis 1 But without actually naming the sun and moon by name, there is the account of God stating He created two great lights.

Then there is Paul mentioning The sun moon and stars but still no mention of planets again. Where as the moon, sun and stars are mentioned many time throughout the Bible, but not one time are planets mentioned.

There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.


They are not called the sun and moon in the creation account!!! They didn't have telescopes and the word planets would not be coined for a while---they were all called stars! Are you now saying that the planets do not exist either?? Never used a telescope? Germs do not exist? They are not mentioned in the bible and you can't see them without microscopes---which didn't come into existence for a while either.
 
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Hebrews 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

Does the Bible support this to be read as worlds or age, space of time.
 
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They are not called the sun and moon in the creation account!!! They didn't have telescopes and the word planets would not be coined for a while---they were all called stars! Are you now saying that the planets do not exist either?? Never used a telescope? Germs do not exist? They are not mentioned in the bible and you can't see them without microscopes---which didn't come into existence for a while either.

The question is, have you seen what you say exist, through a telescope.
 
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I have not found that to be the case.
The King James translators did though, and that's good enough for this KJVO.
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I see where it is used for world but seems only in Hebrews is it worlds and that is KJV.
That's good enough for me.

Where the King James Bible differs from the originals, the originals are wrong.

And just so you know, the AV1389 Wycliffe, one the the King James Bible's predecessors, says:

Hebrews 11:2 [Wycliffe] At the last in these days he hath spoken to us by the Son; whom he hath ordained heir of all things, and by whom he made the worlds.
 
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Why refer to the Bible? The Bible is not a science book. Do not make the mistake of breaking the Second Commandment by making an idol of the Bible.

It is the only reliable source about God's creation.
 
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The King James translators did though, and that's good enough for this KJVO.That's good enough for me.

Where the King James Bible differs from the originals, the originals are wrong.

And just so you know, the AV1389 Wycliffe, one the the King James Bible's predecessors, says:

Hebrews 11:2 [Wycliffe] At the last in these days he hath spoken to us by the Son; whom he hath ordained heir of all things, and by whom he made the worlds.

Has that been confirmed by God, that His originals are wrong.
 
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