If GOP stands for White Anglo-Saxon Protestantism, then it's not going to win anything

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This is the most absurd point we hear so much from the Right. As if the Democrat party of the 21st century is the exact same as the one that held control in the South during the 19th century. It is utterly maddening.

The past is a useful weapon... but only for those who don't believe in redemption.
 
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No one stumbles over racist Southern Democrats, it's a fact of history. What's hilarious is pretending as if that matters now.
And how does it not matter now? Had they no practiced their own form of apartheid would the south have/be better off? Would race relations be better today without Jim Crow?
I think most people understand, the racism someone perpetuates today is far more important than the racism of people that no longer exist.
Thank you for repudiating reparations......
My favorite is watching people embrace the Confederacy arguing it has nothing to do with racism, while doing mental gymnastics to say the Democrats—you know, the people that made up the Confederacy—were racists, but not the failed state they created that enshrined racism as a permanent fixture of its Constitution.
Could you please take the time in your busy schedule to post the article/section where racism is enshrined as a permanent fixture in the Constitution? While you are at it could you also post the article/section where slavery is mentioned at all?......I am afraid I might have missed something.....
They love the "Democrats' flag," but not the Democrats? Yep, they keep dancing.
Who?......African-Americans?......wow, what an acknowledgement.......
 
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And how does it not matter now? Had they no practiced their own form of apartheid would the south have/be better off? Would race relations be better today without Jim Crow?

I don't understand why you would want to preserve all this if we both agree it was a bad thing.
 
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....Could you please take the time in your busy schedule to post the article/section where racism is enshrined as a permanent fixture in the Constitution? While you are at it could you also post the article/section where slavery is mentioned at all?......I am afraid I might have missed something...
Good grief. SM was talking about the failed state of the confederacy and its constitution.

Yes you missed something plain as day,
 
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Good grief. SM was talking about the failed state of the confederacy and its constitution.

Yes you missed something plain as day,
You are right, I did miss that. Thanks for pointing it out......mea culpa.....
 
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Thank God BLM is not a political party ...

That's why I referred to it as an organization. Political parties listen to organizations, such as BLM.
 
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That's why I referred to it as an organization. Political parties listen to organizations, such as BLM.

Political parties listen to the people... sometimes those people get organized.
 
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Nonetheless they are the parents of racism and Jim Crow......a legacy I have no intention of letting them forget about......especially when they try to throw the race card at white republicans.......

The parents want to disown the child -- why would you or anyone else want to adopt it?
 
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The parents want to disown the child --

Speaking of Strom Thurmond...

(James Strom Thurmond Sr. (December 5, 1902 – June 26, 2003) was an American politician, military officer, and attorney who represented South Carolina in the United States Senate from 1954 to 2003. Thurmond was a member of the Democratic Party until 1964 when he joined the Republican Party for the remainder of his legislative career.)
 
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Speaking of Strom Thurmond...

(James Strom Thurmond Sr. (December 5, 1902 – June 26, 2003) was an American politician, military officer, and attorney who represented South Carolina in the United States Senate from 1954 to 2003. Thurmond was a member of the Democratic Party until 1964 when he joined the Republican Party for the remainder of his legislative career.)

Biden seemed to like him:

“I came to the United States Senate. I was a 29-year-old fellow out of the Civil Rights movement, a public defender, and it turns out one of my closest friends ends up being Strom Thurmond, a man whose background and interests, at the time I came, were considerably different than mine,” Biden said in his 1988 speech.
"If you had told me when I entered the United States Senate that one of the people that I’d have the closest relationship with in the Senate would be Strom Thurmond, I would have told you that you were crazy. And I suspect maybe Strom would have told you, you were crazy,” he added. “I’m not just saying Strom and I are close. Anyone who knows the Senate knows how seldom we agree on the controversial issues but how closely we work together.”

Biden said the Washington press would refer to him and Thurmond as the "marvelous marriage" and "the odd couple" and would often ask them how they got along.
Joe Biden
 
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Speaking of Strom Thurmond...

(James Strom Thurmond Sr. (December 5, 1902 – June 26, 2003) was an American politician, military officer, and attorney who represented South Carolina in the United States Senate from 1954 to 2003. Thurmond was a member of the Democratic Party until 1964 when he joined the Republican Party for the remainder of his legislative career.)

Now do Robert Byrd.
 
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in 1952, he announced "After about a year, I became disinterested, quit paying my dues, and dropped my membership in [the KKK]

Did he magically change his convictions which led him to join the KKK in the first place? After all, a tiger can't change his stripes.
 
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And it's just dismissed that Byrd used racial slurs on Fox News as late as 2001...are we then to overlook that?

And let's not forget LBJ's (who is also purported as a "civil rights hero") infamous quote as to why he was to win over the black vote.

I think some people are tired of being political pawns, don't you?

Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again.
^^^LBJ said that.
“I am a former Kleagle [recruiter] of the Ku Klux Klan in Raleigh County . . . The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia. It is necessary that the order be promoted immediately and in every state in the union.”

Byrd said that in 1946...you think he had a full change of heart in just 6 short years? I don't.
 
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Did he magically change his convictions which led him to join the KKK in the first place? After all, a tiger can't change his stripes.

"I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized for a thousand times ... and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened."

Look we get it. In the good old days of the 1950s, Southern Democrats were racist, and black people knew their place.

But things changed. In the case of Strom Thurmond, we can see exactly when. In 1964, he changed his party as the parties changed.
 
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And it's just dismissed that Byrd used racial slurs on Fox News as late as 2008...are we then to overlook that?
Who dismissed it?

Similar to how you dismissed this?
No, but it was elected GOP officials that made pictures of the White House with a watermelon patch when President Obama came into office. It was a GOP mailer that depicted President Obama with racist stereotypes. It was a GOP voter ID law that was struck down in NC because they specifically targeted African Americans with surgical precision. Or how about the Trump state campaign chair that called Michelle Obama a gorilla. Or how about the unpopular one-term president who used birtherism to launch his political career. Birtherism is racism. And let's not forget people that worked for that failed administration being unabashed white supremacists.

Really, the racism that runs in the modern GOP has a long history. I know, bring up the Democratic Party and the Confederacy, as if that is relevant in today's day and age. Last I checked, it wasn't Democrats clamoring to wave a failed, traitorous 19th century battle standard in the 21st century.
 
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He not only apologized for his past actions, he also championed civil rights afterwards. I figure that should stand for something.

I just find it so odd that there is all this reaching back to the 1950s to talk about racism when we have racism here and now, and it's not isolated.

Trump championed civil rights as well. I figure that should stand for something (but have little hope it will).
Trump attends civil rights museum opening; black leaders stay away
 
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