Factory Mixup ruins 15 million Covid-19 vaccine doses

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Johnson and Johnson ruined 15 million doses of the vaccine, by mixing up the ingredients and everyone wants to preach how safe it is? That is just that we know of. I will say it again. These people don't know what they are doing and I don't trust what they are concocting to put into my body! They aren't helping the cause much are they? I just keep on hearing more and more reasons not to get it while they keep trying to shove it down our throats. What is in the vaccine that they want us to have so bad?? Because it isn't to fight the virus. More people who have been vaccinated are getting Covid than those who aren't vaccinated! So what is really in the vaccine? What does it really do to us?

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Johnson and Johnson ruined 15 million doses of the vaccine, by mixing up the ingredients and everyone wants to preach how safe it is? That is just that we know of. I will say it again. These people don't know what they are doing and I don't trust what they are concocting to put into my body! They aren't helping the cause much are they? I just keep on hearing more and more reasons not to get it while they keep trying to shove it down our throats. What is in the vaccine that they want us to have so bad?? Because it isn't to fight the virus. More people who have been vaccinated are getting Covid than those who aren't vaccinated! So what is really in the vaccine? What does it really do to us?
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As of last week 85 Million people have been fully vaccinated, and of those only 7000 or so got Covid. That's less then .01%. That's nothing.
 
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Johnson and Johnson ruined 15 million doses of the vaccine, by mixing up the ingredients and everyone wants to preach how safe it is? That is just that we know of. I will say it again. These people don't know what they are doing and I don't trust what they are concocting to put into my body! They aren't helping the cause much are they? I just keep on hearing more and more reasons not to get it while they keep trying to shove it down our throats. What is in the vaccine that they want us to have so bad?? Because it isn't to fight the virus. More people who have been vaccinated are getting Covid than those who aren't vaccinated! So what is really in the vaccine? What does it really do to us?

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Without the vaccines more of us would be grasping for breath like people in India.

You are errant about the number of vaccinated people getting COVID. It is already known the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are better than the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. I had two Moderna vaccinations gladly. I am not gonna die of this viral pneumonia.
 
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Johnson and Johnson ruined 15 million doses of the vaccine, by mixing up the ingredients and everyone wants to preach how safe it is? That is just that we know of. I will say it again. These people don't know what they are doing and I don't trust what they are concocting to put into my body! They aren't helping the cause much are they? I just keep on hearing more and more reasons not to get it while they keep trying to shove it down our throats. What is in the vaccine that they want us to have so bad?? Because it isn't to fight the virus. More people who have been vaccinated are getting Covid than those who aren't vaccinated! So what is really in the vaccine? What does it really do to us?

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First, it wasn't J&J. It was a manufacturer doing it for them. Second, that factory hadn't been certified by the FDA yet. Before it's certified there's lots of inspections, and they're going to have to clean up their act. There was no problem with J&J understanding how the vaccine works. The problem was with a company that didn't have good controls on manufacturing.
 
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Johnson and Johnson ruined 15 million doses of the vaccine, by mixing up the ingredients and everyone wants to preach how safe it is? That is just that we know of. I will say it again. These people don't know what they are doing and I don't trust what they are concocting to put into my body!

So factories that manufacture food preservatives have mix-ups and recalls all the time as well. Same for animal food stock. As with this case, these are tested for, found and almost always caught before they reach the market.

Since you also put foods in your body, I assume that you only eat freshly grown vegetarian produce purchased from organic farms?
 
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Johnson and Johnson ruined 15 million doses of the vaccine, by mixing up the ingredients and everyone wants to preach how safe it is? That is just that we know of. I will say it again. These people don't know what they are doing and I don't trust what they are concocting to put into my body! They aren't helping the cause much are they? I just keep on hearing more and more reasons not to get it while they keep trying to shove it down our throats. What is in the vaccine that they want us to have so bad?? Because it isn't to fight the virus. More people who have been vaccinated are getting Covid than those who aren't vaccinated! So what is really in the vaccine? What does it really do to us?

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I agree with you..what I don't understand is why people are so divided, and against us who don't want this vaccine. I'm not taking it...and I feel like I am being frowned upon.
 
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I agree with you..what I don't understand is why people are so divided, and against us who don't want this vaccine. I'm not taking it...and I feel like I am being frowned upon.
It's not making the choice that making folks grown upon you I'd wager. It's the prioritizing of information for HOW you make that decision that doesn't make sense I rhink.
 
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I agree with you..what I don't understand is why people are so divided, and against us who don't want this vaccine. I'm not taking it...and I feel like I am being frowned upon.
The reason is that if we don’t get a high percent of the population vaccinated, the rest of us will see consequences. The vaccines are good but not 100%. Also, continuing spread in part of the population means continuing new variants. At some point variants will develop against which the vaccines don’t work. Failure to accept the vaccine really does present a danger to others.

I will choose stores and businesses that require their employees to be vaccinated. I won’t be the only one.
 
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I agree with you..what I don't understand is why people are so divided, and against us who don't want this vaccine. I'm not taking it...and I feel like I am being frowned upon.
Are ye agin all vaccines or just the one(s) for SARS-CoV-2?
 
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I also worry about the Christian witness. If we don’t get to a high enough percent, and many of those who refuse are Christians, it will make us look like jerks. Christians claim we care about others more than ourselves. Here’s a way to show it.
 
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I also worry about the Christian witness. If we don’t get to a high enough percent, and many of those who refuse are Christians, it will make us look like jerks. Christians claim we care about others more than ourselves. Here’s a way to show it.
In a year, maybe two...this will be “heresy”.
 
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Johnson and Johnson ruined 15 million doses of the vaccine, by mixing up the ingredients and everyone wants to preach how safe it is? That is just that we know of. I will say it again. These people don't know what they are doing and I don't trust what they are concocting to put into my body! They aren't helping the cause much are they? I just keep on hearing more and more reasons not to get it while they keep trying to shove it down our throats. What is in the vaccine that they want us to have so bad?? Because it isn't to fight the virus. More people who have been vaccinated are getting Covid than those who aren't vaccinated! So what is really in the vaccine? What does it really do to us?

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More people who have been vaccinated are getting Covid than those who aren't vaccinated!
are you certain about that, what is the source of that information?
 
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As of last week 85 Million people have been fully vaccinated, and of those only 7000 or so got Covid. That's less then .01%. That's nothing.
Hahaha! That is nothing? I know thousands of people who haven't been vaccinated and none of them got it. Zero is nothing. 7000 is 7000.
 
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Without the vaccines more of us would be grasping for breath like people in India.

You are errant about the number of vaccinated people getting COVID. It is already known the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are better than the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. I had two Moderna vaccinations gladly. I am not gonna die of this viral pneumonia.
What I am suggesting is that 15 million batches is a lot of people to be getting their vaccines wrong on. Who cares which one did it?! The point is it could happen to any of them! These are the people whose hands you want us to blindly put our lives in! One is too many. They dont know what they are doing. And good for you. What about everyone who does get bad batches? Whoops! Sorry! They are still being allowed to create vaccines.
 
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First, it wasn't J&J. It was a manufacturer doing it for them. Second, that factory hadn't been certified by the FDA yet. Before it's certified there's lots of inspections, and they're going to have to clean up their act. There was no problem with J&J understanding how the vaccine works. The problem was with a company that didn't have good controls on manufacturing.
The article was in the New York Times. Whose name is on it? What kind of excuses are those? These are supposed to be perfect and safe. And they are not. This is a disgrace to the whole effort.
 
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So factories that manufacture food preservatives have mix-ups and recalls all the time as well. Same for animal food stock. As with this case, these are tested for, found and almost always caught before they reach the market.

Since you also put foods in your body, I assume that you only eat freshly grown vegetarian produce purchased from organic farms?
This is a weak argument when we are talking about infectious disease and not food. We need food to survive, not diseases and doctors and pharmacies should be a little better trained than a farmers considering the education involved. How long do doctors go to college? How much school do you need to be a farmer?
 
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I agree with you..what I don't understand is why people are so divided, and against us who don't want this vaccine. I'm not taking it...and I feel like I am being frowned upon.
Oh this vaccine must have a mind control harrassing element to it because not one person has been able to say," yeah if I hadn't already been vaccinated this would concern me too." Instead the responses are defensive and minimizing their neglect. " Oh its only 15 million- compared to the world thats nothing". ????? Why cant they see it? They don't have the formulas right. Since when did so many people start trusting the government with their lives? I guess none of them have heard that Money is the root of all politics...
 
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Hahaha! That is nothing? I know thousands of people who haven't been vaccinated and none of them got it. Zero is nothing. 7000 is 7000.

And I know several people who haven't been vaccinated and did get it. So whoopty doo, what you wrote here means absolutely nothing in the scheme of things. Anecdotal stuff is anecdotal.
 
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Hahaha! That is nothing? I know thousands of people who haven't been vaccinated and none of them got it. Zero is nothing. 7000 is 7000.

Statistically, without the vaccines a lot more people would have been infected, and many of them would have died. 7000 isn't literally nothing, but it's much better than the alternative.
 
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