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disregarding rapture timing, I fail to understand where the popular trope of just people suddenly vanishing into thin air that you see in well, virtually every movie depiction of a rapture ever comes from biblically.
In the most widely accepted "this is the rapture" passage, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
It's Jesus coming down from heaven, and there's a shout, the voice of an archangel, and a trumpet, it's not secret, it's pretty noisy, it's a big overt display.
But particularly pretribulation believers, depict it as just vanishing, No Jesus in the clouds, no shout, no trumpet, no Archangel.
They see it as people are going to not know what just happened and be confused, where, biblically, it would be pretty obvious when you have Jesus in the clouds and every eye sees Him.
In Revelation, during the wrath of God, it doesn't say that people are confused and don't know what happened.
Revelation 6:15-17
These people know exactly who caused these events and that there's more to come.
Revelation 16:8-9
Revelation 16:21
The people aren't deceived into some Alien abduction theory or other common ideas about how the rapture is going to be "explained away". They know what happened and who's responsible and instead of repenting they curse God.
Whatever your rapture timing, it's clear in the bible that the rapture is not secret but very out in the open and people know the cause and what comes next.
I just don't understand how people come to the idea that it is a secret that needs to be explained away.
In the most widely accepted "this is the rapture" passage, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
It's Jesus coming down from heaven, and there's a shout, the voice of an archangel, and a trumpet, it's not secret, it's pretty noisy, it's a big overt display.
But particularly pretribulation believers, depict it as just vanishing, No Jesus in the clouds, no shout, no trumpet, no Archangel.
They see it as people are going to not know what just happened and be confused, where, biblically, it would be pretty obvious when you have Jesus in the clouds and every eye sees Him.
In Revelation, during the wrath of God, it doesn't say that people are confused and don't know what happened.
Revelation 6:15-17
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
These people know exactly who caused these events and that there's more to come.
Revelation 16:8-9
8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
Revelation 16:21
21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.
The people aren't deceived into some Alien abduction theory or other common ideas about how the rapture is going to be "explained away". They know what happened and who's responsible and instead of repenting they curse God.
Whatever your rapture timing, it's clear in the bible that the rapture is not secret but very out in the open and people know the cause and what comes next.
I just don't understand how people come to the idea that it is a secret that needs to be explained away.