Saturday Sabbath vs Sunday The Lords Day....GO!

[Studyman]

@Studyman you do know there were animal sacrifices that had nothing to do with sin right?

All animal sacrifices were a shadow of the duties of our New High Priest. But We were speaking about the "Works of the Law" for justification/ atonement, not the "Law of the Leper" or sanctification of the Alter.

 

[Studyman]

There still is no commandment. Sure, it is implied, but there is no commandment specifically dealing with animal sacrifices.

Thinking you are justified by the law does not exclude the 10 commandments. They are included in the law.

That is what you want it to say, but it isn't what it says. In the Covenant God gave Levi, what is required for sins to be forgiven? Did God tell Moses to say "If a man sins, he shall Keep the Sabbath and his sins are forgiven? Did God say, "if a man sins he shall love his neighbor as himself"? Did He say, "If a man sins he shall Love the Lord God with all your heart, and your sins are forgiven?

No Nathan, The Levitical Priesthood Law clearly says;

Lev. 4:28 Or if his sin, which he hath sinned, come to his knowledge: then he shall bring his offering, a kid of the goats, a female without blemish, for his sin which he hath sinned.

29 And he shall lay his hand upon the head of the sin offering, and slay the sin offering in the place of the burnt offering.

30 And the priest shall take of the blood thereof with his finger, and put it upon the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and shall pour out all the blood thereof at the bottom of the altar.

31 And he shall take away all the fat thereof, as the fat is taken away from off the sacrifice of peace offerings; and the priest shall burn it upon the altar for a sweet savour unto the LORD; and the priest shall make an atonement for him, and it shall be forgiven him.

Modern religions preach that the "Works of the Law" for justification was any Law God gave to Moses. But the Christ warned of these "MANY" who would call Him Lord, Lord. When a man closes his ears to the mainstream religions of the land we are born into, It becomes clear what the "Works of the Law" for justification Paul taught against were. It wasn't God's Holy Sabbaths, or Loving your neighbor as thyself. The Pharisees were not trying to sell this in their temples on their version of the Sabbath. They were selling turtle doves and animals for sacrifice.

So that passage you quoted includes those who think they are justified by keeping the 10 commandments.

Actually no, it doesn't. The spirit of this world wants men to think this, so they won't walk in the same Path as Christ Jesus. So they wont walk in the "Good Works God before ordained that we should walk in them".

What you are saying makes no sense. Jesus flat out said, just as HIS Father said over and over and over and over and over and over and over, "If you want to enter heaven, keep the Commandments". He even pointed our "Which" ones. He didn't mention the idolatry laws, or to Love God with all your heart, but no one misunderstands what, and whose Laws Jesus is referring to.

And now you are implying that if a man repents, and walks in these Commandments both Jesus and His Father instructs, they are trying to be justified by the "works of the Law".

It's a deception Nathan. The Pharisees were not trying to get the New Converts to Love God with all their heart, and Love their neighbor as themselves, to be justified. They were trying to convince the New Converts to come to their religion, buy a turtle dove from them to purchase their atonement.

Personally, I do not hate any of Gods law. None of it. I think it is perfect - what little I actually know.

In fact, I do not think I have ever met a believer who hated the law - including the Sabbath. What is there to hate about it?

And yet, it is universally rejected, first by the children of Israel, and now by almost every organized religion on the planet. To the point that if I promote His Commandments, including the Sabbath, I am universally accused of trying to be justified by "works of the law." As you implied above.

Side note, it is interesting how Isaiah 58:6 describes exactly what Jesus did for us.

Isaiah 58:6 (ESV) “Is not this the fast that I choose: to loose the bonds of wickedness, to undo the straps of the yoke, to let the oppressed go free, and to break every yoke?

Jesus didn't "FAST" so that i could live in disobedience to His Father. This is a Fast HE chose "FOR" men. This Fast is the Sabbath of God.

Luke 4:18-21 (ESV) “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.” And he rolled up the scroll and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all in the synagogue were fixed on him. And he began to say to them, “Today this Scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing.”

Yes, as Is. 58: teaches.

IS. 58:12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

Matthew 11:29 (ESV)
Take my yoke upon you, (The Lord of the Sabbath) and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.

Jesus is quoting a verse from Jeremiah that HE inspired to be written for our sake's no doubt..

Jer. 6:16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.

As it is to this day.

I have found rest in Him - have you?

I need to trust the Word's of the Christ rather than men.

Matt. 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

 

[a-lily-of-peace]

The Sabbath of the God of the Bible is to be a fast from the world. A day dedicated to God in study and family, apart from servile work. It is not man's work, but God's. Created by God, commanded by God, and when God became a man, Kept by God.

I know there are voices who say it is man's work to keep God's Sabbath, or that obedience is somehow trying to earn salvation. But The entire concept of time, and a 7 day week, was created by the God of the Bible. The entire concept of setting aside the 7th day as a day of rest from this world, and the prince thereof, was 100% from God to and for man.

It is truly a part of the "Way of the Lord" of the Bible, and not a Work of man in the least.

There is a Scripture which speaks to this Fast in Is. 58.

Is. 58:6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?

7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?

I love this verse as a member of those men who strive to walk "In the Way of the Lord", even as Jesus Walked.

Am I serving myself in this obedience, or God? Who needs the rest, me or God? Who needs the band's of wickedness loosened, me or God? Who is "cast out" by the religions of this world for Christ's Sake, me or God? Who needs delivered from deception and Sin and the evils on every side, me or God? Who is naked and needs covered, me or God.

Who needs to stop hiding from the man in the mirror, and come to terms with this man, me or God?

No my friend, after 25 years separating this day from all others, it has become perfectly clear. God truly did create His Sabbath for man. When I follow His instruction, I am serving myself in a manner of speaking, because it is me, not God, who NEEDS His instruction.

13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

I know that most can not receive this. And my heart mourns for religious men who have been convinced they don't need God's instruction, or the Sabbath of the Lord's Christ.

But as for me, I couldn't survive without Him or His "Way".

To clarify I wasn’t saying that resting on the sabbath was a “man’s work” but that it comes with the implication that the other six days are for your own work if the only day you rest from your own work is on the sabbath.

And that to me gives the perspective that when we are at our “day job” or cleaning our house or brushing our teeth we are doing selfish things (our own work) rather than internalising how thoroughly we belong to God. If going to my day job is “my own work” then I focus on how it benefits me, if going to my day job I am still working for God, still in touch with the understanding that everything about me was made by and for Him, then it’s a blessing.

When you say the sabbath is to be a fast from the world (kosmos) you can’t fast from oxygen, and that might sound facetious but being “in this world but not of it” comes with acceptance that our bodies are made of this dust, that we are bound by laws of nature and physics, and that we can go on retreats and even pursue a monastic life but we are still in this world.

If you rest on the sabbath you’re keeping it to honour God and there’s nothing wrong with that, like I said, I used to do the same. I don’t believe we are bound to Saturday observance but I don’t believe it’s forbidden by God, and at the end of the day if it encourages you to bear fruit and blossom it is a good thing. The Apostle Paul made this clear:

One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks.
(Romans 14:5-6, NKJV)

 

[Der Alte]

Unless Sabbath keepers are using the Jewish lunar calendar they often are not observing the proper Sabbath.
The lunar calendar the months are 29 days The lunar cycle is actually 29 days, 12 hours, 44 minutes. So there are 12 hours left over each month. One 24 hour day every 2 months. That is an extra 6 days a year. 30 days every 5 years.
Those extra days cannot be ignored since some Biblical holy days must be observed at a particular season e.g. Shavuot/Pentecost which must occur after the harvest not a month earlier or later.

 

[BABerean2]

Jesus flat out said, just as HIS Father said over and over and over and over and over and over and over, "If you want to enter heaven, keep the Commandments".

There are two different sets of commandments in the verse below.

Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.


The following is also recorded by the Apostle John.

1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.


Why did Paul tell the Galatian believers to "cast out" the Sinai Covenant of "bondage" in Galatians 4:24-31?

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[Saint Steven]

If you rest on the sabbath you’re keeping it to honour God and there’s nothing wrong with that, like I said, I used to do the same. I don’t believe we are bound to Saturday observance but I don’t believe it’s forbidden by God, and at the end of the day if it encourages you to bear fruit and blossom it is a good thing.

Well said. And from that perspective the Sabbath is a good thing. (or can be) And everyone is free to make their own decision about it. However...

When one group makes the "biblical" declaration that the Sabbath Day is God's holy day, what does that say about any other day? Or more importantly, what does that say to those who don't observe the Sabbath? At that point it becomes a divisive issue.

 

[Studyman]

There are two different sets of commandments in the verse below.

Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

Of course there are. Did God Command that you come down from heaven and create all things that were created, including the Law? Did God send you to "save the lost Children of Israel".

John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

God gave Jesus work to do, that God didn't give you. And Jesus was faithful to His Father, in keeping His Commandments.

But Jesus tells you what Laws were given to man that we are to follow.

Matt. 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

These are the instructions of God which hang on the two most important commandments in the Law, at least according to the Jesus of the Bible. Love the God of Abraham with all thine heart, and Love your neighbor as thyself. A man either believes in the Word's of Jesus, or they believe the "other voice" in the garden.

The following is also recorded by the Apostle John.

1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

First, you are omitting an important part of this verse.

1 John 3:21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.

22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, (God) because we keep his (God's) commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his (God's) sight.

23 And this is his (God's) commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ,

When did God give this Commandment?

Duet 18:15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;
18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

So yes, God Prophesied of Christ Jesus, and commanded men to "hearken" (Believe) on Him when He Comes.

"and love one another, as he gave us commandment."

When did God give this Commandment?

Lev. 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

24 And he that keepeth his (God's) commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

So Jesus is telling us to follow the Commandments of God given in the Law and Prophets. Same as Matt. 19.

Also, you omitted another important part of this Chapter.

4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

So a man that transgresses God's Commandments is of the devil. A man that transgresses God's Commandments does not have the Love of God.

As this same Author declares in another place.

1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin (Transgress God's Commandments) not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his (God's) commandments.

4 He that saith, I know him, (God) and keepeth not his (God's) commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

5 But whoso keepeth his (God's) word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him (Jesus, who also kept God's Commandments).

6 He that saith he abideth in him (Jesus) ought himself also so to walk, even as he (Jesus) walked.

So from reading the Scriptures you posed, and making sure we get the whole message from John, we find that Moses, Samuel, Jesus, Peter and now John all teach to follow the Commandments of God, and that Transgressing the Commandments of God is BAD. Just as God said over and over and over and over and over and over and over again in the Law and Prophets Paul said was written for our admonition..

Why did Paul tell the Galatian believers to "cast out" the Sinai Covenant of "bondage" in Galatians 4:24-31?

Well, it seems foolishness to believe Paul taught against Moses, Samuel, Jesus, Peter and now John. But we should examine Every scripture to make sure Paul wasn't bringing a New religious all these others didn't bring.

According to the Creator of the New Covenant, what changed?

Jer. 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

So, OK!! God places HIS Commandments on the hearts and minds of His People. How was HIS Commandments received before "After those days"? Wasn't the Book of the Law in the exclusive possession of the Levite Priest? So, OK, no more Levites to give us God's Commandments. And look, we all have the oracles of God in our own homes, in our mind and in our hearts, just as HE promised. All we need is belief.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

So, OK!! God forgives our sins Himself. How were sins forgiven before "After those days"? Were we not to take an animals to the Levite Priest who would then perform sacrificial "Works" of the Law of Atonement?

So we no longer take an animal to the Levite Priest, we have Faith in the blood of our New High Priest.

So then, when Israel broke the Covenant of Abraham God gave to them, He gave a Covenant to Levi, AKA, the Levitical Priesthood, which provided for 2 things.

#1. Administration of God's Laws. "For under it the people received the law"

Heb. 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

So in the New Covenant God's Laws are administrated in a different manner.

#2. How transgressions of God's Laws were atoned for.

So two Covenants, one, the Covenant of Abraham, which they broke, and the other, God's Covenant with Levi, which was "ADDED" because of Transgressions, "till the Seed should come".

So which Covenant was "Cast out"? Certainly not the Covenant God gave Abraham with His Commandments, Statutes, Judgments and Laws. But the Priesthood Covenant HE gave Levi, the "Order of Aaron", which dealt with the Administration of God's Laws, and the manner in which transgressions of these laws are atoned for.

So now we can add Paul to the group of faithful servants along with Moses, Samuel, Jesus, Peter and John who all all teach to follow the Commandments of God.

1 Cor. 7:19 Circumcision (Jew) is nothing, and uncircumcision (Gentile) is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.

Shall we not trust these Scriptures?

 

[Studyman]

To clarify I wasn’t saying that resting on the sabbath was a “man’s work” but that it comes with the implication that the other six days are for your own work if the only day you rest from your own work is on the sabbath.

Ex. 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

Jesus said: "15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil."

We are created in a form which needs sustenance. We need to eat, drink, exercise, etc. We must work for our sustenance in this world we were born into. God created a "Way" that HE followed when He became a man, which kept Him from Evil. This "way" includes Commandments and Judgments written specifically for New Covenant Believers in this time. Including a Fast from the World on the seventh day of the week called "the Holy Sabbath". While it is true religious men have rejected, despised and polluted His Sabbaths since the beginning, it is still part of His Way which can not be denied if the Scriptures are our guide.

And that to me gives the perspective that when we are at our “day job” or cleaning our house or brushing our teeth we are doing selfish things (our own work) rather than internalising how thoroughly we belong to God. If going to my day job is “my own work” then I focus on how it benefits me, if going to my day job I am still working for God, still in touch with the understanding that everything about me was made by and for Him, then it’s a blessing.

How can you be working for God if you refuse to honor Him in His Commandments? You might not believe in His Sabbath, as Many do not believe in His Commandments. But nevertheless, He did create it for man. I am a man, therefore, HE created it for me. You don't believe HE created His Sabbath for you? Are you not His People?

When you say the sabbath is to be a fast from the world (kosmos) you can’t fast from oxygen,

Being surrounded by oxygen is not evil, will not tempt me, can not hurt me, can not influence me, turn me away from God, cause me to sin, or forget God that formed me.

Being surrounded by sin, deception, religions of this world, wickedness, dishonesty, indifference, fornication, greed, corruption, nakedness, lies, "Other voices in the garden" etc. These can influence a man. This is why God prepared a Fast from this world once a week. Not to Fast from oxygen. Really????

and that might sound facetious but being “in this world but not of it” comes with acceptance that our bodies are made of this dust, that we are bound by laws of nature and physics, and that we can go on retreats and even pursue a monastic life but we are still in this world.

"Retreats or monostic life" are not Commandments of God. Even if a man does pursue such ideals, which might look holy or religious in the eyes of men, they are still "man's work". While the Sabbath is 100% God's Good Work, that HE foreordained that His People should walk in them. For me it's about what the Scriptures say, not what my carnal mind thinks.

If you rest on the sabbath you’re keeping it to honour God and there’s nothing wrong with that, like I said, I used to do the same. I don’t believe we are bound to Saturday observance but I don’t believe it’s forbidden by God, and at the end of the day if it encourages you to bear fruit and blossom it is a good thing. The Apostle Paul made this clear:

I agree, there is nothing wrong with Honoring God with obedience. It is the single factor that separates those who call HIM Lord, Lord, that hear His Word's and "doeth them" from those who call Him Lord, Lord, and hear His Word's and "Doeth them not".

One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks.
(Romans 14:5-6, NKJV)

Yes, Paul places a difference between men "weak in the Faith" and those who have been "fully persuaded" by God.

Let each man be fully persuaded in their own mind who he should listen to?

If HE is truly a believer, he will see soon enough what Days God esteems as alike, and those days God Esteems above another.

 

[BABerean2]

Well, it seems foolishness to believe Paul taught against Moses, Samuel, Jesus, Peter and now John. But we should examine Every scripture to make sure Paul wasn't bringing a New religious all these others didn't bring.

Are you claiming Paul did not compel the Galatian believers to "cast out" the Sinai Covenant of "bondage" in Galatians 4:24-31?

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[Studyman]

Are you claiming Paul did not compel the Galatian believers to "cast out" the Sinai Covenant of "bondage" in Galatians 4:24-31?

You are rejecting and completely omitting the covenant God made with Levi on Mt. Sinai, "Because of Transgressions". Israel had already broken the Covenant of Abraham God furthered on to them by building a Golden Calf. The Covenant that changed, was the "ADDED" Priesthood Covenant God made with Levi on Israel's behalf, "Because of Transgressions, "Till the SEED should come". This was the heir that was "Cast out".

This is the Covenant that Changed.

Heb. 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

Jer. 7:22 For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:

23 But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.

But did they "Obey His Voice"?

24 But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward.

It was "BECAUSE" of this that God "ADDED" atonement Laws in a Covenant with Levi "concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices".

This is not taught in the religions of this land, as Prophesied, but this truth is right there in your own Bible, if you can accept it.

2 Covenants, one with Abraham and his children, that Israel broke, and a Priesthood Covenant with Levi on Israel's behalf, "because of transgressions", that was "cast out" when the new High Priest (SEED) came.

There was a Covenant "Cast out". Not the Covenant of Abraham Israel broke.

Ex. 34:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest.

But the Covenant God made with Levi (Order of Aaron) for Atonement.

Ex. 32:30 And it came to pass on the morrow, that Moses said unto the people, Ye have sinned a great sin: and now I will go up unto the LORD; peradventure I shall make an atonement for your sin.

Heb. 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

It was the "Order of Aaron" that was cast out, not the Commandments of God.

 

[BABerean2]

You are rejecting and completely omitting the covenant God made with Levi on Mt. Sinai, "Because of Transgressions". Israel had already broken the Covenant of Abraham God furthered on to them by building a Golden Calf. The Covenant that changed, was the "ADDED" Priesthood Covenant God made with Levi on Israel's behalf, "Because of Transgressions, "Till the SEED should come". This was the heir that was "Cast out".

This is the Covenant that Changed.

Heb. 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

Jer. 7:22 For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:

23 But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.

But did they "Obey His Voice"?

24 But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward.

It was "BECAUSE" of this that God "ADDED" atonement Laws in a Covenant with Levi "concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices".

This is not taught in the religions of this land, as Prophesied, but this truth is right there in your own Bible, if you can accept it.

2 Covenants, one with Abraham and his children, that Israel broke, and a Priesthood Covenant with Levi on Israel's behalf, "because of transgressions", that was "cast out" when the new High Priest (SEED) came.

There was a Covenant "Cast out". Not the Covenant of Abraham Israel broke.

Ex. 34:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest.

But the Covenant God made with Levi (Order of Aaron) for Atonement.

Ex. 32:30 And it came to pass on the morrow, that Moses said unto the people, Ye have sinned a great sin: and now I will go up unto the LORD; peradventure I shall make an atonement for your sin.

Heb. 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

It was the "Order of Aaron" that was cast out, not the Commandments of God.

In Galatians 4:24-31 the Apostle Paul said the Sinai Covenant was the one which "gendereth to bondage" and was to be "cast out".
The text could not be any clearer.

Gal 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
Gal 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Gal 4:27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
Gal 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
Gal 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
Gal 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
Gal 4:31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.


Below Paul contrasts the two covenants.
He calls the Sinai Covenant the ministry of death engraved on stones.

2Co 3:6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
2Co 3:7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away,
2Co 3:8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious?

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[Studyman]

In Galatians 4:24-31 the Apostle Paul said the Sinai Covenant was the one which "gendereth to bondage" and was to be "cast out".
The text could not be any clearer.

You believe this because you have been convinced of the religious philosophy of this world, that is, that God's Commandments are the burden which caused Israel to fall. This is the religion of the prince of this world since it convinced Eve that God's Commandment "Made her blind" and only by rejecting it, can she "SEE".

This religion being promoted teaches basically, when you take all the lipstick off, that God saved Israel from the bondage of sin and deception of Egypt, only to place a burden and Yoke of Bondage on their necks impossible to follow, but this same God lied to them by telling them not only that they could keep them, but that they were "for their own good". Then this same God slaughtered them by the Thousands when they didn't keep them, so Jesus had to come and save them, not from their own stubborn, stiff necked ways, but from God's Law today's religion preaches is unjust and a yoke of Bondage.

Of course this is not true, but it is the very foundation of the religions of this land.

There was a Law of God "ADDED" because of transgressions which caused a bondage of sorts.

Under this ADDED LAW, 2 sheep were killed every day. Men were forced to travel to a Synagogue with an animal, or forced to purchase an animal for the atonement of their sins. This happened every day of the week, twice a day. The slaughtering of animals was constant. Men were also led astray by these mainstream preachers for centuries as they departed out of the Way of the Lord and began "Teaching for doctrines the commandments of men".

You also refuse to acknowledge that Abraham had God's Commandments, Statutes, Judgments and Laws, and obeyed them. But he wasn't under the Levitical Priesthood, with it's "Works of the law" for justification. Abraham was justified "Apart" from this Law.

You also completely ignore the Scriptures I posted as if they don't matter. This is personally frustrating for me, since I am sharing with you God's Word in order to discern false doctrines that Jesus said "would be here".

I also posted God's Own Definition of His Own New Covenant, and you ignore it. I posted God clearly showing 2 Covenants given to Israel. And you completely ignore it. I posted where God tells me in His New Covenant that HIS LAWS, Commandments, Statues and Judgments are not changed, but are written on the hearts of His People, as they were supposed to be from the beginning, but Levi corrupted the Covenant God made with him.

Duet 6: 4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. 6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: 7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

But you seem convinced that God lied here as well.

Below Paul contrasts the two covenants.
He calls the Sinai Covenant the ministry of death engraved on stones.

2Co 3:6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
2Co 3:7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away,
2Co 3:8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious?

So even from it's face, your philosophy that this verse makes Void the entire Law and Prophets, all of the Christ's Word's and even most of Paul's Words is foolishness.

But lets look at what the scriptures teach.

We already know God Promised a New Covenant. A Covenant in which HE Writes His LAWS on the hearts of His People, and forgives the sins of the people Himself, not by the death of thousands and thousands of animals, but by His own Blood.

"so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away,"

How was the Glory of Moses "passing away"? Let's go to the scriptures Paul is quoting.

Duet. 18:15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; (A new minister)

16 According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not.

17 And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken.

18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. (A New High Priest)

19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

So the Glory of Moses Countenance was passing away even as the Ministration of Death was given.

You are preaching, it seems, that in the New Covenant, God is going to write the "ministration of Death" on our hearts. But this is not true. God's Laws, Statutes, Judgments and commandments, are not the Ministration of Death, they are not the Yoke of Bondage. The Law that requires the death of animals for a Sin offering, is a ministration of death. Jesus was a New High Priest, HE was a minister of a New and Better way.

To believe your religious philosophy that God's Commandments, Statutes, and Judgments are the "ministration of death", I would have to read His Word's this way.

Matt. 19: 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the "Ministration of Death".

1 Cor. 7: 19 Circumcision (Jew) is nothing, and uncircumcision (Gentile) is nothing, but the keeping of the "Ministration of Death".

Luke 1:5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.

6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in "the Ministration of Death" blameless.

Mal. 4:4 Remember ye the "Ministration of Death" my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.

1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not "the Ministration of Death", is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Rev. 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep "the Ministration of Death", and the faith of Jesus.

Rom. 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the "Ministration of Death"; but with the flesh the law of sin.


I could go on and on.

I used to just follow the mainstream religions of the land like you are, but, by the Grace of God, I escaped the broad path that the "many" are walking.

I am hoping you might consider all the scriptures which show that the Old Covenant that changed was not God's Laws that HE will write on our hearts, rather, it was the Priesthood Covenant God make with Levi.

Heb. 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

The Law that Changed, was the Priesthood Law which states that only a Levite "Son's of Aaron", can become a Priest of God. So by necessity, before Jesus could become the High Priest, this Law had to change. And John the Baptist knew this.

Matt. 3:13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.

Have you considered why Jesus began His Ministry by coming to John, a True Levite Priest, to be baptized?

My Friend, you have been tricked, as have we all at one time. It is my greatest desire that you might consider the Scriptures, all of them, and "Come out of Her" as Jesus said "The Truth shall set you free". Free from what? From The "other voice" in the garden.

 

[a-lily-of-peace]

Ex. 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

Jesus said: "15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil."

We are created in a form which needs sustenance. We need to eat, drink, exercise, etc. We must work for our sustenance in this world we were born into. God created a "Way" that HE followed when He became a man, which kept Him from Evil. This "way" includes Commandments and Judgments written specifically for New Covenant Believers in this time. Including a Fast from the World on the seventh day of the week called "the Holy Sabbath". While it is true religious men have rejected, despised and polluted His Sabbaths since the beginning, it is still part of His Way which can not be denied if the Scriptures are our guide.

I don’t disagree that this body needs maintenance But I do disagree that maintaining this physical body by physical means is a “fast from the world” as you call it. The world was created. This body was created. The Sabbath was created. It comes across more like you’re using “the world” to mean only bad things in the world, not the actual world (kosmos).

How can you be working for God if you refuse to honor Him in His Commandments? You might not believe in His Sabbath, as Many do not believe in His Commandments. But nevertheless, He did create it for man. I am a man, therefore, HE created it for me. You don't believe HE created His Sabbath for you? Are you not His People?

I believe God created the sabbath on the seventh day of creation and that in itself is a source of contemplation because God brought forth something into existence through His rest. What it looks like for God to rest I can’t understand.

I know the Lord Jesus Christ said, on the Sabbath, that He and His Father have been working (John 5:17) and as it must be simultaneously possible for Jesus to have been working on the Sabbath (as he said) and also that he was completely without sin (thus not violating the law) I believe the two are reconciled by distinguishing between God’s work and our own. And that brings us to the epistle to the Galatians, where I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.” (Galatians 2:20-21)

Being surrounded by oxygen is not evil, will not tempt me, can not hurt me, can not influence me, turn me away from God, cause me to sin, or forget God that formed me.

Being surrounded by sin, deception, religions of this world, wickedness, dishonesty, indifference, fornication, greed, corruption, nakedness, lies, "Other voices in the garden" etc. These can influence a man. This is why God prepared a Fast from this world once a week. Not to Fast from oxygen. Really????

This is why I say I think you’ve limited “the world” to only bad things in the world. Tortures like waterboarding (a form of oxygen deprivation) play on worldly pain and worldly needs of this body. A convert in the Middle East being waterboarded for his faith in Christ can’t simply choose to “fast from the world” by giving up his need for oxygen, and yet God is still with him. Same for a convert in China forced to do hard labour 7 days a week - their labour is not “their own work” and they are strengthened by Christ who lives through them.

You might think these are exceptional circumstances but the understanding of Christ Jesus is all and in all.

"Retreats or monostic life" are not Commandments of God. Even if a man does pursue such ideals, which might look holy or religious in the eyes of men, they are still "man's work". While the Sabbath is 100% God's Good Work, that HE foreordained that His People should walk in them. For me it's about what the Scriptures say, not what my carnal mind thinks.

I actually thought of retreats and monasticism because you defined the sabbath to be “a fast from the world” rather than a rest from work and that’s what inspires people to pursue monasticism. I don’t see anything wrong with retreats or monasticism, there are times when the Lord withdrew into prayer and contemplation, even 40 days of fasting in the desert, and I don’t think he was motivated to do so by wanting to “look holy or religious in the eyes of men”.

I agree, there is nothing wrong with Honoring God with obedience. It is the single factor that separates those who call HIM Lord, Lord, that hear His Word's and "doeth them" from those who call Him Lord, Lord, and hear His Word's and "Doeth them not".

So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.But I say, have they not heard? Yes indeed:
“Their sound has gone out to all the earth,
And their words to the ends of the world.”
(Romans 10:17-18, NKJV)

But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
(2 Corinthians 3:14-17)

Yes, Paul places a difference between men "weak in the Faith" and those who have been "fully persuaded" by God.

Let each man be fully persuaded in their own mind who he should listen to?

If HE is truly a believer, he will see soon enough what Days God esteems as alike, and those days God Esteems above another.

Do you believe God works on the sabbath?

 

[BABerean2]

My Friend, you have been tricked, as have we all at one time. It is my greatest desire that you might consider the Scriptures, all of them, and "Come out of Her" as Jesus said "The Truth shall set you free". Free from what? From The "other voice" in the garden.

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.


Sabbath day in the New Covenant: Dale Ratzlaff

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[Saint Steven]

... Do you believe God works on the sabbath?

Jesus had something to say about that.


John 5:16-18 NIV
So, because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jewish leaders began to persecute him. 17 In his defense Jesus said to them, “My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working.” 18 For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

 

[Studyman]

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Absolutely,

God's faithful, that is, the examples of Faith the Christ had written for us New Covenant Believers, throughout the Bible, have followed the instructions of God even when the mainstream religious men of this world threatened them with death. But it didn't matter to His People. They know HIS Sabbath's and Feast's are of the Christ of the Bible, and are not "rudiments of this world" or "religious traditions of men."

That they are a Shadow of things yet to be fulfilled. This is why Paul walked in them and instructed his fellow believers not to let man judge them in their obedience to the ONE who purchased them. Our Judge is the Lord, even of the Sabbath.


It's equally interesting that in God's New Covenant, it is said we won't need to rely on "other voices" to know God, we will all know Him. As HE will write His Laws on the minds of His People. And here we are with the Oracles of God in our own home, and in our own mind. Yet, modern religious men still prefer preachers, and "other voices" to teach them doctrine, correction and instruction in righteousness. We are in the New Covenant of the God of the bible, are we not? The Levitical Priesthood with it's Shrines of Worship made of wood and stone on every street corner, and the Preachers in the chief seats of the house, have passed away, and has been "cast out". How is it you still rely on, and promote these ancient religious "Works" of an obsolete priesthood, when the Christ has delivered His Fathers Word into your own home?

No offence, but for me, I will place my trust in the God of the Bible, and HIS Son. Mr. Ratcliff did not purchase me with his blood.

 

[BABerean2]

Absolutely,

God's faithful, that is, the examples of Faith the Christ had written for us New Covenant Believers, throughout the Bible, have followed the instructions of God even when the mainstream religious men of this world threatened them with death. But it didn't matter to His People. They know HIS Sabbath's and Feast's are of the Christ of the Bible, and are not "rudiments of this world" or "religious traditions of men."

That they are a Shadow of things yet to be fulfilled. This is why Paul walked in them and instructed his fellow believers not to let man judge them in their obedience to the ONE who purchased them. Our Judge is the Lord, even of the Sabbath.


It's equally interesting that in God's New Covenant, it is said we won't need to rely on "other voices" to know God, we will all know Him. As HE will write His Laws on the minds of His People. And here we are with the Oracles of God in our own home, and in our own mind. Yet, modern religious men still prefer preachers, and "other voices" to teach them doctrine, correction and instruction in righteousness. We are in the New Covenant of the God of the bible, are we not? The Levitical Priesthood with it's Shrines of Worship made of wood and stone on every street corner, and the Preachers in the chief seats of the house, have passed away, and has been "cast out". How is it you still rely on, and promote these ancient religious "Works" of an obsolete priesthood, when the Christ has delivered His Fathers Word into your own home?

No offence, but for me, I will place my trust in the God of the Bible, and HIS Son. Mr. Ratcliff did not purchase me with his blood.

Mat_28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

Mar_16:2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.

Mar_16:9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

Luk_24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

Joh_20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

Joh_20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

Act_20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

1Co_16:2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.


The Pharisees accused Jesus for not properly keeping the Sabbath day when he healed a man on the Sabbath day, and told the man to pick up his bedroll.
He has also healed me.

Why do many modern Christians continue to accuse others of not properly keeping the Sabbath day, just as the Pharisees had done?

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[Studyman]

I don’t disagree that this body needs maintenance But I do disagree that maintaining this physical body by physical means is a “fast from the world” as you call it. The world was created. This body was created. The Sabbath was created. It comes across more like you’re using “the world” to mean only bad things in the world, not the actual world (kosmos).

I simply posted God's Word regarding His Sabbath and why HE created this Fast. "MANY" who call Him Lord, don't really believe Him.

I believe God created the sabbath on the seventh day of creation and that in itself is a source of contemplation because God brought forth something into existence through His rest. What it looks like for God to rest I can’t understand.

God gave the Commandment. In my belief, HE knows better than me what I need. As a child I was instructed to do, and/or not do many things that I didn't understand, but I obeyed anyway. Now I see why they instructed me in the manner in which they did.

Is it any different with the Christ's Father, and my Father? Shall we not honor our Father with obedience even if we don't fully understand the instruction?

I know the Lord Jesus Christ said, on the Sabbath, that He and His Father have been working (John 5:17) and as it must be simultaneously possible for Jesus to have been working on the Sabbath (as he said) and also that he was completely without sin (thus not violating the law) I believe the two are reconciled by distinguishing between God’s work and our own.

Is Jesus not my High Priest? Is HE not reconciling me to His Father? Isn't that the duty of a Priest? Did Aaron work on the Sabbath? Did He not sanctify the alter, and provide atonement even on the Sabbath Days?

Did Jesus build houses for money on God's Sabbath? It's not about your religious tradition which excludes God's Sabbath, it is about "Living by Every Word which proceeds from the mouth of God". At least it is according to the Christ of the Bible.

And that brings us to the epistle to the Galatians, where I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.” (Galatians 2:20-21)

How do you know the Christ of the Bible is in you? According to HIS Spirit, there is a way for us to know for sure, if we believe in His inspired Words.

1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

Is God's Holy Sabbath a Commandment? Even you must acknowledge that it is. Did Jesus walk in the Sabbath of His Father? Of course HE did. This is what I mean about listening to God, VS listening to the "many" religious philosophies of men. God, in His Mercy, gave us this test to see if the spirit in us is from God, or the other voice in the garden.



Again, before Jesus came, how was a man, with Sin, made righteous? Were they not required to bring an animal to the Levite Priest, who would perform sacrificial "Works" to wash sins away, making the one cleansed righteous? Jesus is now the High Priest, Yes? But the Pharisees didn't believe Jesus was their New High Priest, so they were still seeking righteousness by these Levitical Priesthood "Works of the Law". So Paul is telling these Galatians, if you continue to follow the old Priesthood atonement laws, even after the Prophesied Messiah shed His own Blood as also Prophesied, you have set aside the Grace of God, and the Christ shed HIS Blood in vain.

Grace we all need because we have transgressed God's Commandments, including polluting His Sabbaths, which is a Sin according to the Holy Scriptures..

This is why I say I think you’ve limited “the world” to only bad things in the world. Tortures like waterboarding (a form of oxygen deprivation) play on worldly pain and worldly needs of this body. A convert in the Middle East being waterboarded for his faith in Christ can’t simply choose to “fast from the world” by giving up his need for oxygen, and yet God is still with him. Same for a convert in China forced to do hard labour 7 days a week - their labour is not “their own work” and they are strengthened by Christ who lives through them.

We are told to Take Heed of the Evil which exists in this world. Not the Good.

I actually thought of retreats and monasticism because you defined the sabbath to be “a fast from the world” rather than a rest from work and that’s what inspires people to pursue monasticism. I don’t see anything wrong with retreats or monasticism, there are times when the Lord withdrew into prayer and contemplation, even 40 days of fasting in the desert, and I don’t think he was motivated to do so by wanting to “look holy or religious in the eyes of men”.

I'm not going to engage in a conversation where worldly monks are compared to Jesus.

So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.But I say, have they not heard? Yes indeed:
“Their sound has gone out to all the earth,
And their words to the ends of the world.”
(Romans 10:17-18, NKJV)

Rom. 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ.

But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
(2 Corinthians 3:14-17)

Turn to what Lord? The Lord of the Sabbath that was created for man, YES?

Do you believe God works on the sabbath?

Do I believe God works for money on the Sabbath, so HE can have a new car? No, I don't believe God engages in this kind of work. He Commanded against it.

 

[Saint Steven]

Were you a slave in Egypt? To whom was the Sabbath given?

Deuteronomy 5:15 NIV
Remember that you were slaves in Egypt and that the Lord your God brought you out of there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore the Lord your God has commanded you to observe the Sabbath day.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Unless Sabbath keepers are using the Jewish lunar calendar they often are not observing the proper Sabbath.
The lunar calendar the months are 29 days The lunar cycle is actually 29 days, 12 hours, 44 minutes. So there are 12 hours left over each month. One 24 hour day every 2 months. That is an extra 6 days a year. 30 days every 5 years.
Those extra days cannot be ignored since some Biblical holy days must be observed at a particular season e.g. Shavuot/Pentecost which must occur after the harvest not a month earlier or later.

The Sabbath is every seven days, its a cycle and repeats. It doesn't matter which calendar you are following because every seventh day is the Sabbath.