Is it time to stop policing the black community?

[OldWiseGuy]

For the sake of racial justice perhaps we need different sets of laws for each ethnic group. Law enforcement in the black community has been troubling for both sides. Maybe they should be authorized to police their own communities. Thoughts?

 

[expos4ever]

A dreadful, dreadful idea, obviously.

 

[Ceallaigh]

Not all cops are white. Also that kind of segregation would hardly foster equality.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Not all cops are white. Also that kind of segregation would hardly foster equality.

The point is to end police violence against black people. Many blacks don't accept black cops as 'brother's'.

Equality is a different subject.

 

[Ceallaigh]

The point is to end police violence against black people. Many blacks don't accept black cops as 'brother's'.

Equality is a different subject.

Doesn't a lot of that violence happen outside the community? How close was George Floyd to his home I wonder.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Doesn't a lot of that violence happen outside the community? How close was George Floyd to his home I wonder.

It does, but the police might refrain from any violent response if called. They could also determine from the dispatching information if blacks are involved and not respond thus assuring that no black person would be harmed by them.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

The point is to end police violence against black people. Many blacks don't accept black cops as 'brother's'.

Then perhaps the police should work on that. People have zero obligation to see police officers in any particular way. If they wish to be seen as "brothers," then they should first try acting like "brothers."

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Then perhaps the police should work on that. People have zero obligation to see police officers in any particular way. If they wish to be seen as "brothers," then they should first try acting like "brothers."

That's sort of what I'm suggesting as well, that black cops basically ignore law breaking by other blacks.

 

[TLK Valentine]

For the sake of racial justice perhaps we need different sets of laws for each ethnic group. Law enforcement in the black community has been troubling for both sides. Maybe they should be authorized to police their own communities. Thoughts?

Is this supposed to be an easier alternative to "not shooting the black community"?

 

[PloverWing]

Maybe they should be authorized to police their own communities. Thoughts?

Ideally, something like this would be true already. Where possible, the members of the police force should be people who live in the town or city that they protect, who send their kids to the local public school, eat at the local restaurants, and so on. If it's a large city divided into neighborhoods of different ethnicities and income levels, then ideally I'd want to see a mix of police officers who grew up in each of these various neighborhoods, or who now choose to live in the various neighborhoods, alongside the people they protect.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Not all cops are white. Also that kind of segregation would hardly foster equality.

Why do I suspect that's the point?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Is this supposed to be an easier alternative to "not shooting the black community"?

Cops are trained to shoot people. If they aren't present they can't shoot people.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Why do I suspect that's the point?

Money is best means of attaining equity (protesting is probably the worst).

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

People have zero obligation to see police officers in any particular way.

Wrong. Scripture all the way through commands respect for authority.

 

[PloverWing]

That's sort of what I'm suggesting as well, that black cops basically ignore law breaking by other blacks.

The goal is not to ignore law breaking, but to enforce laws without resort to lethal violence. Counterfeiting and drug possession, for example, are nonviolent offenses, but two of the recent killings were committed by police officers who used lethal violence on people suspected of these nonviolent offenses.

 

[PloverWing]

Cops are trained to shoot people. If they aren't present they can't shoot people.

Perhaps police officers could be trained differently.

 

[Sophrosyne]

The solution is to have a publicized meeting between the mayor and police heads with the black community and put it to task. Give them 2 choices: either support white officers who serve your community and stand behind them giving them a fair chance when something happens or ONLY black officers will be sent to ANY event that involves ANY blacks and if one isn't available.... you have to WAIT even if it is life and death...
The "cure" for all this black on white crap is to gut entire police forces and ONLY hire black officers to patrol the entire city that way there is no whites to "blame" for anything that happens.

 

[DaisyDay]

The goal is not to ignore law breaking, but to enforce laws without resort to lethal violence. Counterfeiting and drug possession, for example, are nonviolent offenses, but two of the recent killings were committed by police officers who used lethal violence on people suspected of these nonviolent offenses.

Theoretically, they are supposed to “serve and protect”. If the police treated all residents with respect then there wouldn’t be such a problem.

The other issue is that police should be held responsible when they violate the law. Black people are already harshly punished, especially when there is a White victim. Black victims are all too often disregarded as either unimportant or unreliable so they don’t get any respect or justice.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

The goal is not to ignore law breaking, but to enforce laws without resort to lethal violence. Counterfeiting and drug possession, for example, are nonviolent offenses, but two of the recent killings were committed by police officers who used lethal violence on people suspected of these nonviolent offenses.

They were killed as a result of noncompliance.

 

[NxNW]

Wrong. Scripture all the way through commands respect for authority.

I wasn't aware the Bible had the force of law in the United States. When did that change?