UFO's About To Be Revealed?

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I disagree as we really dont know what is out there and how far away.
I agree with you as 1) we seem to want to understand alien technology based upon out own understanding and that becomes even less likely with inter-dimensional tech. 2) People don't even want to consider the book of Enoch because it messes with their heads 3) We assume God works according to our standards 4) If God can block entrance to the Garden of Eden He is more than capable of blocking our vision of what may truly be all around us. Perhaps we live in an illusion with the occasional glitch that allows us to see through 5) People will play the demon card when they can't even see the adversary within themselves. 6) Dogs are supposed to have superior hearing and smell but never seem to get excited about lights in the sky.
 
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Actually, we do. We know pretty well what is on the planets in our solar system and we know pretty well there are no suspicious data or signals from the nearest stars.

The opposite is true, everything around us is silent and empty - the Fermi paradox.

What signal would aliens be using? Same technology as us? Really? ;)
 
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I don't understand, why the existence of aliens would be "against" God or His existence? Even if one day aliens come to Earth in front of everyone, it really would not bother my faith in God and Jesus at all. Is it all just because Bible doesn't mention it? I have 2 points about it:

1- Scriptures were made by people of a long, long time ago, they didn't even know the Earth was round and although they were inspired by God, He guided them to write in a way people of that time would understand with the knowledge from that era. For example, I don't remember exactly if it was on Leviticus or Numbers, but God guided Moses on how to treat some diseases, He could've used super advanced medicinal language if He wanted to or explained how to make a super effective medicine like the ones we have nowadays, but He explained in a way people of that period would understand. If aliens actually exist, that's why I think it doesn't go against Bible.

2- There is an specific passage on Bible that I personally like so much and I never saw people talking about or mentioning it. Jesus on John 3:12 says "If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?". It shows that there are heavenly things and about existence in general that we don't know and were not mentioned in the Bible.


What are your thoughts?
1 - I don't know if you fully realize it, but saying the scriptures were written long, long ago and those who written them had limited knowledge, greatly discredits the validity of the Bible. As a former skeptic and hater of God, I was very ignorant of the Truth of the scriptures, that I used this very argument to my advantage. I think most times, we don't give the ancient people enough credit and think we are way more advanced then them. For some reason the cave man image often comes to mind. We just assume they're less evolved based on what science (aka man) tells us, which is entirely false. Most ancient people were masters at whatever craft they took up, unlike most people today. Noah and his family built an amazing, enormous ship that was able to withstand a worldwide flood. Look at what ancient civilizations built and many things you'll find is astounding and incredible for people with less technology then us. The Bible also clearly states that in the end times, knowledge will increase. So what were seeing is no surprise as God stated this would in fact happen, but never does it make the scriptures from the past any less true. In fact, I think whatever knowledge comes about, will draw us closer to Jesus's return.

I also think an important thing to note is while we're here today trying to pick from the Bible what we accept as Truth and discard the rest to replace with our science, all of the prophets and apostles and righteous people of God, simply took Him at His Word. They had a fear of the Lord, which the Bible says is the beginning of all wisdom. And more then the knowledge we chase after today, many of them did have wisdom. They also studied the scriptures day and night and knew them greatly by memory. It truly seems like in many ways, they let God be true and every man a liar. All this to say the ancient people were not perfect just as we aren't today. We're all just living and experiencing this fallen world together, past or present.

But with that being said, I think many of us 21st century people need to get off the high horse of our own understanding and humble ourselves before the True and Living God.

2 - When Jesus says heavenly things in this verse, the context is not referring to what is up in the sky (the sun, moon, stars). It's referring to God's dwelling place.
 
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Tucker reacts to video of UFO confirmed by Pentagon - YouTube

(Just released the other day)

Folks look there was a time when this type of thing would cause smirks and laughter. Are things though getting a lot more serious now? I got my own world view on just what might be occurring but what about you? Serious stuff or just more things to laugh off?


Such a narrative must now be cultivated and pushed as to give credence to the lies that will be circulating as to why so many Christians suddenly disappeared from the face of the earth.

The Rapture = We were all beamed up by aliens because Christians were deemed a logical choice to be made slaves to serve them... They have been studying mankind for centuries and discovered Christians would make the best candidate.
 
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I personally don't think aliens exist. I don't think the videos posted here are actually aliens, I don't know what they are, but I really don't think they are aliens.

1 - I don't know if you fully realize it, but saying the scriptures were written long, long ago and those who written them had limited knowledge, greatly discredits the validity of the Bible. As a former skeptic and hater of God, I was very ignorant of the Truth of the scriptures, that I used this very argument to my advantage. I think most times, we don't give the ancient people enough credit and think we are way more advanced then them. For some reason the cave man image often comes to mind. We just assume they're less evolved based on what science (aka man) tells us, which is entirely false. Most ancient people were masters at whatever craft they took up, unlike most people today. Noah and his family built an amazing, enormous ship that was able to withstand a worldwide flood. Look at what ancient civilizations built and many things you'll find is astounding and incredible for people with less technology then us. The Bible also clearly states that in the end times, knowledge will increase.

Sure, I agree so much, saying they knew less than us it's unfair, technically they had less knowledge than us, but it's unfair to do this comparison because they knew the best they could at that era, so they were pretty brilliant actually.
But what I meant was that IF aliens exist (which I don't believe), maybe there was no reason for God saying and mentioning it on the Bible (since the scriptures were inspired by Him). They didn't know Earth was a planet, what existed out of Earth and much less about what "universe" is, so if He explained there was life in other planets on the universe, they wouldn't understand. It's the same reason why God didn't teach how to do a super effective medicine like the ones we have nowadays, because they would not understand anything or have the technology necessary to produce it. Instead, he teached how to treat diseases using techniques that were possible for that era.

And I don't discredit the Bible by any means, I believe in everything it says.






Basically, my whole point on that comment was to say that I don't think it goes against God, Jesus and Bible if maybe one day the existence of aliens gets confirmed, like some people were talking about non-believers using it as an argument.
 
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No extra terrestrial life...no Klingons, no Vulcans, no Borg, no Obi Wan Kenobi, no Luke Sky walker, no Darth Vader, no Battle Star Galactica.

It's all bologna!!!
 
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I believe they are demons and possibly Angel's (good ones). I believe they are interdimensional also. I do not believe they came from another solar system, it's simply too far away for that kind of thing.

When God's bride is taken in rapture they will come down and say they got rid of the hindrance to mankind's evolution: the Christians. I think that is one possible scenario at least. Let's not focus too much on UFOs though
 
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When God's bride is taken in rapture they will come down and say they got rid of the hindrance to mankind's evolution: the Christians.
Probably won't be that noticeable. Most people, including Christians, are to wrapped up in themselves and the ways and politics of this world to lay claim to the Kingdom which works in an opposite way. They would be of little use to God's will being done when they can't even focus on it here.
 
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What would really be a revelation is how the aliens if they made themselves know, would act. Would they 1) be self serving and alpha driven like man (which would show we who were expelled from the garden for being that way, are not unique in our sin). Or would they 2) be loving neighbour as self, thus setting themselves aside from the ways of man while we of course shoot at them. Either the whole universe is fallen or we were simply isolated in this penal colony planet to either mature or die out. The only thing special about us to God (even though we are so full of ourselves) is that God is willing to give us a chance to smarten up.
 
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Probably won't be that noticeable. Most people, including Christians, are to wrapped up in themselves and the ways and politics of this world to lay claim to the Kingdom which works in an opposite way. They would be of little use to God's will being done when they can't even focus on it here.

I don't understand what you're saying. Surely those taken in the rapture would not be too wrapped up in the politics and goings-on of this world to be taken by Christ as His bride.
 
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Tucker reacts to video of UFO confirmed by Pentagon - YouTube

(Just released the other day)

Folks look there was a time when this type of thing would cause smirks and laughter. Are things though getting a lot more serious now? I got my own world view on just what might be occurring but what about you? Serious stuff or just more things to laugh off?

Do you think the official release of the UFOs footage and the Pentagon verifying the authenticity of the footage is somehow connected to Trump commissioning the Space Force in December of 2019?

The older UFO footage confirmed by the Pentagon that I included in my first post here.



The recently released footage confirmed by the Pentagon that you referred to in your OP.


 
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Surely those taken in the rapture would not be too wrapped up in the politics and goings-on of this world to be taken by Christ as His bride.
Like I said, there doesn't seem to be many who are not wrapped up in themselves or politics., Many contribute to the division between man over worldly issues. They miss the point they are to take part in the only division God recommends, between world of man and Kingdom.

Also trying to lay claim to being bride IMO is just another example of self interest over the will of God. The scripture says the bride is the new Jerusalem. We gentiles are the second hand guests invited to the wedding feast, the first invitees rejecting the offer. Man of course true to form tries to make what Jesus accomplished all about ourselves instead of what Jesus said. It is about the Father returning to live among us. That was the Gospel of the Kingdom and itis clearly stated in the Lord's Prayer
 
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Do you think the official release of the UFOs footage and the Pentagon verifying the authenticity of the footage is somehow connected to Trump commissioning the Space Force in December of 2019?
No, he was more concerned about losing control of the moon to China and the weaponizing of satellites. I doubt even he would be stupid enough to think we could take on alien tech in our own backyard. We lose before we start because it is only our turf that gets damaged.

On the other hand if we see fleets of thousands of Teslas with space suits in them attacking earth, we will know the aliens are using our technology against us. lol
 
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Tucker reacts to video of UFO confirmed by Pentagon - YouTube

(Just released the other day)

Folks look there was a time when this type of thing would cause smirks and laughter. Are things though getting a lot more serious now? I got my own world view on just what might be occurring but what about you? Serious stuff or just more things to laugh off?

On a side note, I was wondering if you considered watching The Phenomenon documentary or not.

I was just wondering.

There is definitely something to it, but I don't believe it's necessarily something we should be afraid of though. If I may, I'd like to suggest that you watch The Phenomenon. You can watch the trailer here. I think it will help you better understand. My in-laws were staunchly against the possibility of UFOs and extraterrestrial life until they watched this documentary with me. It changed their minds.

On a side note, here's another story on a credible reported UFO sighting that I would like to share.

O'Hare UFO sighting in 2006 one of the most famous reported

 
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Also trying to lay claim to being bride IMO is just another example of self interest over the will of God. The scripture says the bride is the new Jerusalem. We gentiles are the second hand guests invited to the wedding feast, the first invitees rejecting the offer.

No, i'm pretty sure the Church is referred to as the body of Christ, because we will be in a marriage relationship with him.

Jesus isn't going to marry an inanimate object (New Jerusalem)
 
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No, he is more concerned about losing control of the moon to China and the weaponizing of satellites.

Yes, I'm aware of the information that was released to the public. However, I was specifically asking Bobber for his personal opinion on the matter since this is his thread. I'd like to know his thoughts.
 
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No, i'm pretty sure the Church is referred to as the body of Christ.
There are many. The ones who are the body follow the will of God, not of man, just as Jesus did. The Father's will be done, not Jesus' will. Unfortunately there is duality even in the church let alone each denomination as duality is the default nature of man.
 
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Again the key is whether we make this about God or try to make it about ourselves. If it is that latter, we fail. Two strikes for trying to make Jesus on the cross about us and for claiming we usurp the New Jerusalem. Followers are humbly content to be invited guests at the feast that is all about God, not us. We fortunately have the ability to benefit from God's plan to Have His Kingdom come and His will being done in earth again as it is in heaven. It's all about Him.

Rev:22
9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.

10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

Rev:
16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
 
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