UFO's About To Be Revealed?

[Daniel Martinovich]

In reading through the comments this morning it’s pretty easy to see the divide between those who accept the Bible as the absolute Word of God inspired by him and the basis of all truth. Verses those who think it to be far less than that. Written by “men.” And therefore interpretable in many different ways.

Neither the Bible nor the raw data in any field of science point to an ancient universe. Much more so one that was not created.

Those facts of life, what is written and what the raw data of the natural sciences fit do not declare one way or another that God created life on other planets. Everyone should just say we don’t know. What those facts do declare though is that natural beings from other planets are not visiting us. They have no way to create the means or make the journey in the allowable time span. Therefore if people are seeing and experiencing phenomena. Then what they are running into are supernatural beings, spiritual beings and manifestations. Not natural ones. It’s been happening since the beginning of creation. Why would it stop now?

 

[Daniel Martinovich]

Anti-science lie? Hmm... I believe the Earth and the vastness of Outer space are billions of years old. I don't believe in a young creation or believe the Earth is flat. I don't thumb my nose at science either.

Yeah I’m not saying your thumbing your nose at science. What I’m saying is you are being lied to in exactly the way you see the political lies happening today. You don’t go out and research the raw data that exists and come to your own conclusions about what scenario fits it best and what scenario does not. Your just accepting what is popular and even more so what is being imposed with billions of dollars of government money by “ the experts”. As far the understanding the universe. Mankind is is at a cell is a blob of jelly stage. We don’t, period. Lots of scientific conjecture being tested but most of the testing proves it wrong and just raises even more questions. It’s the tabloid science media that makes it look like science is discovering all kinds of answers. In the end of that journey the creation scientists will come out on top just like they have in the earth sciences.

 

[Freth]

Full disclosure: I was an avid UFO/alien believer from the 70's into the 2000's.

• I do not believe that there will be any disclosure, because there is nothing to disclose. It's a distraction to keep our minds engaged in things other than God.
  
• I believe that other created beings exist on other worlds, but they are sinless.
• I believe that God isolated us from those beings because of sin.
• I do not believe God allows beings from other worlds to visit earth, because of sin.
• Technology doesn't exist to effectively pull off an alien deception and spiritual beings appearing without a space ship isn't going to seal the deal.
• There is no prophecy that points to an alien deception, only earthly events are described.
  
• Scripture does point to two powers coming together to bring about the mark of the beast. Revelation 13, Revelation 17
• Scripture does point to impersonators of Christ and says not to believe that any of them are Him. Matthew 24

I think we should be looking at scripture to see what it says about the end time events that are to happen.

 

[lsume]

It actually would be a huge issue with too many questions against the legitimacy of the scriptures, leading to serious doubts in the God of the Bible. Which fuels many unbelievers today in my opinion. Many questions would then come to mind such as, well if there's other earth-like planets with alien life forms on it, well then did they sin? Was the Bible only written and preserved for us? Are they in need of a savior? Is Jesus savior just for us or for the life God created elsewhere, despite the scriptures stating this nowhere? In the Genesis account, why didn't God say He created this life as well as ours here on earth?

The Bible consistently describes God creating the earth, the sea, us in His image, the fish of the sea, the fowl of the air, the beasts that roam the fields, the creeping things upon the earth, and the stars, sun and moon all being set within the firmament for the purpose of knowing the signs, seasons, days and years. Also what was placed in the sky God specifically states is for the purpose of providing light upon the earth. There is no reason, when looking at the scriptures alone, to believe in life somewhere else in an endless and vast universe. I believe plainly that God put what He put in the sky for the purposes He describes and for that alone. He created this earth and everything in it for us.

Perhaps God created life elsewhere that didn’t sin. They may live forever like they are. Have you ever had a Spiritual dream? They are very unique and I don’t think you will ever forget them. I’ve had a number of them and one involved perhaps the alien question. I think I had this dream possibly before the typical alien gray picture had been seen by many. I saw in my dream what media has promoted as a gray alien. I knew that it was evil and I ripped off its face and it was black with great evil. The Word in Philippians 2:10-11 Speaks of every knee bowing to the name of Christ including things under the earth. Who are those under the earth?


Phil.2 Verses 10 to 11

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   [10] That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

 

[LizaMarie]

I just read an article from someone who opined that these phenomena are terrestrial in origin, and we need to find out who is behind them. I can link to the article though it's long.
A good person also to read is Dr. Michael S. Heiser. Like, Dr. Heiser, and the poster above(Freth)
I do not rule out that God may have created life elsewhere(although I also think we may be it, here on earth, rare earth) but I don't think what is going on now are aliens from another solar system(though I could be proven wrong)
I believe a great deception is going on.

 

[pescador]

"Eisegesis is the process of interpreting text in such a way as to introduce one's own presuppositions, agendas or biases. It is commonly referred to as reading into the text. It is often done to "prove" a pre-held point of concern, and to provide confirmation bias corresponding with the pre-held interpretation and any agendas supported by it."

Your point?

My point is that instead of responding to my post you quote my "signature".

a) Why are you doing that?
b) What is it about either that you don't understand?

 

[Eloy Craft]

Oh I think there is some potential of an "End of Days Deception" where Fallen Angels, Demons, Nephilim or whatever appear as benevolent space beings who claim to have "originally seeded life on this planet long age, but now want to save us from our own destructive tendencies" much like in various Sci Fi films, except the aim is all the One World government under an anti-Christ figure.

That's exactly it. A distraction. Look! Out there! There is salvation out there , cries the flesh because it dies.

 

[DamianWarS]

Tucker reacts to video of UFO confirmed by Pentagon - YouTube

(Just released the other day)

Folks look there was a time when this type of thing would cause smirks and laughter. Are things though getting a lot more serious now? I got my own world view on just what might be occurring but what about you? Serious stuff or just more things to laugh off?

Didn't the X files cover this? It's a slight of hand move by the government to distract what they are really doing.

 

[timothyu]

I think you mean tyrannical governments, not elites as such.

No I do not. Even governments bow to the money of the elites (or perhaps you would prefer the 1%), these self proclaimed corporate saviours who would have us believe their philanthropic ways are not self and profit motivated.

 

[JacksBratt]

Finally, a subject I'm very well familiar with. It's quite clear, based on a couple of the opposing posts in this thread that I don't agree with some other Christians on the subject. But I learned a long time ago that arguing and debating this subject with these Christians is pointless and it gets me nowhere.

Before I commence, I would like to say that I'm speaking as an amateur Ufologist and a member of MUFON. I'm not claiming to be an expert, but I've researched this subject for many years. I've also experienced a couple of incidences that can be categorized under Close Encounters of the First Kind.

I'm being completely honest when I say that I believe a disclosure on UFOs from the government is imminent. It's only a matter of time. There are too many eyes on the skies with modern technology and the government's longstanding dam of denial has already started to crumble. In fact, there are significant cracks in many places. Of course, I can't say when a disclosure will happen or what it will entail, but I believe it's coming soon and it will be an earth shattering experience for a lot of people.

I believe the American public is slowly being acclimated to accept some level of a disclosure on UFOs from our government. Why has the federal government suddenly declassified remarkable UFO footage and admitted that these videos are authentic after adamantly denying the existence of UFOs for more than 70 years (since the 1947 Roswell Incident)? I think this question is deserving of an answer.

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Personally, I think a disclosure of a large magnitude would be emotionally devastating and petrifying to the vast majority of Americans. It would cause a massive widespread panic and perhaps even an economic collapse. It might cause some people to take their life or riot in the streets. An immediate disclosure would cause a serious crisis of faith for many religious people, especially for fundamentalist Christians. The revelation that extraterrestrials actually exist could turn the Church on its head.

Considering the high risk of causing economic devastation and mass hysteria, I think the powers that be within the U.S. government are wise to release small quantities of declassified information every now and then relating to their knowledge of UFOs. As I implied, I don't think an immediate disclosure to the general public is a good idea. There's no denying that the government has consistently denied the existence of UFOs for the last 70 years. I'm certainly curious to know why the federal government has unequivocally changed its longstanding stance and publicly released declassified footage of UFOs that clearly acknowledges the existence of "unidentified aerial phenomena." Why the change of heart?

It's not a secret to the people who know me IRL that I believe extraterrestrial lifeforms exist and have visited Earth on numerous occasions throughout the history of mankind. I believe this because of all the plethora of evidence that I've seen over the years. In fact, I believe it's undeniable. It's also worth mentioning that astronomers estimate that there are around 100 billion other solar systems in the Milky Way alone. I feel that it's very arrogant to believe that humans are the only intelligent beings in our galaxy, let alone in the entire vastness of Outer space. It's highly improbable that we are alone.

I agree with the fact that disclosure is being rolled out slowly. However, there is less chance of panic today than there was in the 50's 60's and 70s.

Generations of today are primed for something like this.

I disagree, however, with your view that these are from other planets... I believe that these are demonic beings and they are playing in to the narrative of "extraterrestrials"

My belief, and I don't expect you to agree, are that these are inter dimensional beings... not interplanetary beings.

I truly believe that this increase in observations and acceptance is part and parcel to the coming end times. If we are not in them already.

 

[lsume]

Oh I think there is some potential of an "End of Days Deception" where Fallen Angels, Demons, Nephilim or whatever appear as benevolent space beings who claim to have "originally seeded life on this planet long age, but now want to save us from our own destructive tendencies" much like in various Sci Fi films, except the aim is all the One World government under an anti-Christ figure.

Consider “that day won’t come except there be a great falling away first”

 

[timothyu]

My point is that instead of responding to my post you quote my "signature".

a) Why are you doing that?

Because at the time that was all that was there in response,. Perhaps you edited later. I did respond to that when it showed up.

 

[Littlek]

I personally don't believe in aliens. I mean God could make whatever he wanted to...but for me it's a no. I think its probably on the lines of demons/fallen angels.
We are all entitled to our opinions though. I hear about it, see it on the tel-lie-vision..but brush it off.

 

[renniks]

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You wrote, "Once the virus threat settles down and they've seen how much we are willing to give up, they will need a new outside threat for the fear factor needed to have us give up the last of our rights in order to obtain protection under a unified global agency/government." [my emphases]

Are you serious?

a) Who is "they"?
b) What is your justification for writing this?
c) Where is your faith in God?

Well, the Bible does support the idea of a global government and having to accept certain things to buy or sell...God hasn't abandoned us, but God doesn't always save his people from current the events that are part of living on a broken world.

 

[Bobber]

I agree with the fact that disclosure is being rolled out slowly. However, there is less chance of panic today than there was in the 50's 60's and 70s.

Generations of today are primed for something like this.

I suppose that's right. With entertainment like Star Trek so many, many different versions of the show it amazes me they wouldn't have concluded there's way too many where it's too much of an overplay.

My belief, and I don't expect you to agree, are that these are inter dimensional beings... not interplanetary beings.

As for me if there's anything to this that's what I'd think as well. If they were interplanetary it would mean they were of the physical order and going up to light speed for such would be impossible.

 

[Pavel Mosko]

Consider “that day won’t come except there be a great falling away first”

I agree but I think we are half way there now.

I've talked about in other threads about the relationship between UFOs and the Occult. Basically that the people who see them, aliens etc. often have some kind of past history with the occult. And besides that I think there are some other kinds of parallels quite a few people see "cryptid" creatures like Bigfoot etc. but the encounter is less like seeing an exotic rare animal and much more like seeing something demonic. Probably the best example of this are "Dogman" sightings where people see werewolf like creatures, which has become a "thing" as I mentioned in a thread I posted a month or two back.

When Sane and Honest People See Werewolves...


Anyway I find some of these stories interesting. There are a lot of fakes of course because lots of people are practical jokers. But beyond that, it does look to me that a certain portion of the populace in some way is being Demonized, harrassed etc. Lots of demonic over tones to the various encounters and people seem to suffer from PTSD. And sometimes these are with Christians, which I tend to pay attention to. Like prayer often ends the encounter, drives the thing away, or keeps the thing from returning.


In terms of UFO's I think many people would find the claim by beings that obviously appear to be aliens, and can work wonders allegedly through super technology a big torpedo to their faith. But yes, I think things would have to go down hill from here for that to happen, because I think they would not be able to resist Christians who assume they are demons/fallen angels/ Nephilim and actively pray against them from the start!

 

[Bobber]

Consider “that day won’t come except there be a great falling away first”

I wonder if it could go this way though. These things begin manifesting and let's just call them certain type of Christians become disillusioned by rhetoric by unbelievers, "See there your God believing viewpoint that humanity was unique just went by the way side!"

I think some might be so weak they'd fall for it especially when made to feel stupid if they question what these so called "benevolent" beings told humanity. To question what they say could be deemed being a dangerous conspiracy theorist and an enemy to humanity so therefore they swallow hook line and sinker whatever is said. = Falling away=

 

[Lost4words]

I am open minded to them being aliens. Their technology may be completely different to ours. Who knows.

We all need to stay strong in our love of God. Whatever happens.

 

[trophy33]

rhetoric by unbelievers, "See there your God believing viewpoint that humanity was unique just went by the way side!"

I do not follow your logic... dogs are not unique, because there are also cats? Humans are unique as humans.

 

[trophy33]

I am open minded to them being aliens. Their technology may be completely different to ours. Who knows.

We all need to stay strong in our love of God. Whatever happens.

They are not aliens. There are no traces of alien civilizations anywhere. You cannot develop super technology without having industry, satellites, radio signals etc. Its all dead around us and suddenly aircrafts of aliens all around us? Hardly.

So far, there is nothing about these "objects" that is not imaginable for our human technology to achieve. Being fast etc. is nothing so hardcore that it has to be from aliens.