DavidPT
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If this is your key verse, you should know it can be also translated as:
Kαὶ πεσοῦνται στόματι μαχαίρης
- And they shall fall by the edge of the sword.
Kαὶ αἰχμαλωτισθήσονται εἰς τὰ ἔθνη πάντα
- And they will be led away captive into all nations.
Kαὶ Ἰερουσαλὴμ ἔσται πατουμένη ὑπὸ ἐθνῶν ἄχρι οὗ πληρωθῶσιν
- And Jerusalem shall be trodden down by Gentiles fully.
Kαὶ ἔσονται καιροὶ ἐθνῶν
- And the times of the Gentiles will happen.
Even if the times of the Gentiles ended within the generation Jesus was living in at the time, it still agrees with what I'm arguing, and that is, that it has to be one of the things included that have to be fulfilled before this generation can pass away. What we need to be asking ourselves first, what exactly is meant by the times of the Gentiles to begin with?
Revelation 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
This appears to be connected with it. But does this have anything to do with 70 AD? Preterists apparently think so, but I don't think John did. This 42 months in question obviously involve the same 42 months found recorded in Revelation 13, which means the beast has to have ascended out of the pit before these 42 months can even be fulfilled.
Revelation 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
This obviously doesn't match anything involving 70 AD. The 2Ws, whoever or whatever they are meaning, are obviously the good guys. In 70 AD the unbelieving Jews remaining in Jerusalem were the bad guys, yet Revelation 11:7 doesn't involve making war with any bad guys, it involves making war with the good guys. Nor anywhere in Revelation 11 and Revelation 13 does it involve making war with the bad guys, the bad guys meaning the unbelieving Jews in 70 AD.
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