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If you think that what Tucker Carlson said is wrong...

Explain why you believe races shouldn't advocate for their race. Explain why it's wrong to place their own race's concerns before others.

If you only think it's wrong for white people to do.....then lets talk about why you're racist against whites.
 
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Charlie Kirk sees the Dems as choosing their own electorate:

Charlie Breaks Down the Driving Force Behind Bidens Border Crisis
How can you be choosing your own electorate? I think it's a stretch to argue that immigrant = Democratic voter. In the last election (2020), many immigrant communities skewed more toward Trump compared to the 2016 election. Seems the best policy would be appeal to all Americans and stop trying to prevent people from immigrating based on the false premise that you are "diluting" the country.
 
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Let's be honest....

The people arguing against "white supremacy" have been arguing in favor of its principles for years now.

They totally support racial groups promoting their own race and it's political concerns....valid or not. They argue that those outside of the racial group cannot understand the views of the racial group and therefore outside races should be ignored.
What about universal human ideals, like human rights and the protections thereof?

When did universalism become so divided?

Evidently people think they can stand, all by themselves
 
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Will they also learn to respect US laws (as they exist on the books at the place and time) ?
Are you suggesting that immigrants are more likely to break the law? People that immigrate and become citizens have every right to vote, they aren't somehow worse than native-born Americans.
 
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How can you be choosing your own electorate? I think it's a stretch to argue that immigrant = Democratic voter. In the last election (2020), many immigrant communities skewed more toward Trump compared to the 2016 election. Seems the best policy would be appeal to all Americans and stop trying to prevent people from immigrating based on the false premise that you are "diluting" the country.
Issue is not "immigration"

Issue is unlawful law-breaking illegal (which just happens to involve immigration, as an after thought)

If immigration is so great, make it legal, and provide border agents with the means to duly process all of the legal immigrants in a proper way
 
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Are you suggesting that immigrants are more likely to break the law? People that immigrate and become citizens have every right to vote, they aren't somehow worse than native-born Americans.
You absolutely have to know, as does everyone in the galaxy, that the vast majority of those crossing the border do so illegally, unlawfully, in contravention to US law, hopping fences, evading cameras, entering the country surreptitiously under cover of darkness, etc.
 
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Let's start with the obvious....

Border patrol video shows young children being dropped over border fence into the US - CNN

Your administration's policies result in this. It's solely because they won't send children back. If you believe child separation is abuse.....then you support abuse.

Will children be harmed? Yes. Will some inevitably die? Yup. Being abandoned in the New Mexican desert can kill you.
Good thing for the children they knew where the cameras were
 
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You absolutely have to know, as does everyone in the galaxy, that the vast majority of those crossing the border do so illegally, unlawfully, in contravention to US law, hopping fences, evading cameras, entering the country surreptitiously under cover of darkness, etc.
No, most people that cross the US border do so legally, but people crossing the border is not a concern of the those complaining of the great replacement, they are concerned with all immigration. And we know they are concerned about immigration in general as evidenced by the actions of the Trump administration curtailing and depressing all forms of immigration.
 
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The very same people who reject the SOCIALISM of Europe (thereby making European emigration much less likely) are also against Central American people immigrating who see the USA as a bastion of freedom and flock to us
They come to support the US Constitution?


Is keeping America a “white country” important to you?
Is making America a "non-white country" important to you?
 
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Issue is not "immigration"

Issue is unlawful law-breaking illegal (which just happens to involve immigration, as an after thought)

If immigration is so great, make it legal, and provide border agents with the means to duly process all of the legal immigrants in a proper way
The issue is immigration, that's why they lowered the number of refugees, they reject more immigration applications, made the visa and green card process more difficult, etc. The likes of Stephen Miller were always about promoting white supremacy.

The issue is white supremacy, it's the subject of this thread. One way it is promoted is through anti-immigration, as seen hosts like Tucker Carlson. A few years ago, another Fox News host said white people need to have more babies because other ethnic groups were having children. Demographic shift is often promoted by white supremacists as a crisis for the United States. The idea of more non-white representation expanding is considered a threat to "real Americans."
 
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They come to support the US Constitution?
I’m pretty sure that asylum seekers will agree with anything you put in front of them to get to stay. (That’d be a “yes”.)
But the “same people” I was referring to was those who espouse an anti-immigration sentiment for Central American folk.

Is making America a "non-white country" important to you?
White people will become the largest minority and the nation will be a nation of minorities by mid century.
It’s going to happen. Be my guest and fight that eventuality if you’d like.
 
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You can do that directly without turning such charity over to the government.

Except that immigration is a government issue -- you actually kind of need them if you want to do it...
 
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Yes, that's the point.

Yes, so let's unpack it a bit:

You need to register to vote, and you need ID to register... but you don't need ID to vote.

Similarly, you need a license to drive a car, and you need to take a road test to get the license... but you don't need to take a road test every time you get behind the wheel...

Of course, the analogy isn't a perfect one, but the point is that the details have already been dealt with.
 
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The question was about the Democratic Party not about people that help others without wanting something in return.
My post was in response to the question of why Democrats would want immigration when immigrants can't vote.

I speak in jest, of course -- of course there's something in return. Many immigrants become citizens, and almost all of them have children who will automatically become citizens under the 14th Amendment. Citizens can vote, and many citizens have long memories.

I just thought the idea that people would help others without wanting something in return shouldn't be so confusing on a Christian forum.
 
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Tucker Carlson embraces white-supremacist 'replacement' conspiracy theory, claiming Democrats are 'importing' immigrants to 'dilute' American voters


White supremacists have learned that they can't simply call their beliefs white supremacy if they want those ideas to propagate, they have to package in a form that makes it more palatable to the white majority they wish to follow their ideology. There is a reason white supremacists watch the likes of Tucker Carlson, they study how he packages their ideology in a way that doesn't trumpet its racist underbelly. As some have described, Tucker Carlson is the he most prominent vessel for white supremacist talking points, and the weird thing is he portrays himself as a man speaking for the people when he's always been a man of privilege seeking to exploit the white blue collar folks.
Please...just stop. Let's say I like Tucker and I agree with what he is saying. Does that make me, a black man, a white supremacist?
 
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