Russia condemns racism against white Americans

[ForHimbyHim]

Confucius says: No greater slave is there than the man who cannot master his own emotions and is instead mastered by them.

Glad I don't follow Confucius. My God said be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to get angry, for now, I listen.

 

[ForHimbyHim]

Saying "that's not the case" is a rejection, not a refutation. A polite way of saying "i'm going to ignore that".

You're just saying the same thing but with different words. It's like a relay race where each generation is a runner. Systemic racism is weights on their ankles. For the last generation universities, government, and business have switched who gets the ankle weights in the name of rectifying the prior relay rounds, but are saying "Slavs, you're white now", so they have to wear the ankle weights in this round as well. So Slavs got to wear the ankle weights in prior rounds of the relay because they weren't white; now they get to wear the ankle weights in this round because they're white.

When I look back at systematic race in America, all I see is 'no blacks' posters. Please do post 'No Slav Catholic' posters. I may have missed that discrimination. Do you mean the Slavs would go to the 'coloured only' water fountains?

 

[ForHimbyHim]

Russians, Belarusians, Ukranians, Poles, Serbians, Croatians, etc.

And you're right: it is messed up. But that's how they operate. And they don't care. It's not about social justice for them; because that would mean distinguishing between the histories of different white groups. That would require effort and attention to detail; justice is concerned with details because the Devil is in the details. That kind of effort isn't needed when your goal is to use shame and guilt to manipulate people -- "check your privilege!" or "You can't possibly understand because you're speaking from a position of privilege". And as a study of history shows: guilt and shame are the go-to for manipulating the masses into obedience.

From my experience I was day guns and forced takeovers are the go-to for manipulating masses into obedience. We have obviously lived different lives.

 

[ForHimbyHim]

H'oooookaaaayy well maybe I misunderstood you. But when you talk about this group and that group and engineering outcomes, presumably based on race, it sure sounds like the typical university racism we see these days. It's belittling to the individual, intrinsically.

But can I ask, when 'no blacks' posters were put up, did they just not lump all black people together, whether you were American, Ghanaian, Guyanese, did it not? Regardless of where you were from, just based on the colour of your skin you either could or couldn't use or access the privilege.

 

[Pommer]

Glad I don't follow Confucius. My God said be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to get angry, for now, I listen.

James (I believe) did a bit on the tongue. Same concept.
James 3:5-6

 

[98cwitr]

Racism is about power dynamics. The balance of power is in white hands. Of course it's possible for a white person to suffer racism - travellers in the UK are white and suffer horrendous prejudices. At the same time, in this context it's just an attempt to suppress valid and legitimate protest movements.

That's not the definition. Racism is simply discrimination based on race. You can be racist and not have power.

 

[Eftsoon]

That's not the definition. Racism is simply discrimination based on race. You can be racist and not have power.

I wasn't claiming that that was the definition. I'm talking about a very specific kind of racism which requires disempowerment of one group by another. This is the source of its sting.

 

[98cwitr]

I wasn't claiming that that was the definition. I'm talking about a very specific kind of racism which requires disempowerment of one group by another. This is the source of its sting.

Eh I disagree. While government/law enforced racial discrimination is awful, and thankfully a thing of the past, it's the direct peer racism that is still tearing at the moral fabric of society. It's easy and "safer" to be racist online; behind the protection of a screen and keyboard. People are more inclined to show their true colors behind anonymity. While racism appears to be alive and well (and as long as different ethnic groups, this side of the Kingdom of God, exists I am afraid racism will too), what I don't find is that systemic nor institutional racism exists beyond the practices of "racial quotas" in specific institutions (namely academic).

Unfortunately, there does seem to be a push to bring them back; both in regards to race and sex.

 

[Andrewn]

Congratulations to those who think Putin is defender of white people. He just signed a law enabling him to stay in power until 2036.

Do you think dictatorships are great?

Putin signs law enabling him to stay in power until 2036

 

[KarateCowboy]

If talking anything of race is belittling to the individual...

There's no way you can honestly think that when I wrote:

But when you talk about this group and that group and engineering outcomes, presumably based on race, it sure sounds like the typical university racism we see these days. It's belittling to the individual, intrinsically.


That I meant:

talking anything of race is belittling to the individual

It's not possible.

Glad I don't follow Confucius. My God said be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to get angry, for now, I listen.

@Pommer got in right. Confucius did righteousness with that one. It was attributed to him.

When I look back at systematic race in America, all I see is 'no blacks' posters. Please do post 'No Slav Catholic' posters. I may have missed that discrimination. Do you mean the Slavs would go to the 'coloured only' water fountains?

Cool! We had rocks thrown at us, our church bombed, our livestock slaughtered, our crops burnt. Meanwhile our cousins in Europe were being exterminated in Nazi concentration camps. I would gladly take posters and exclusive water fountains over that. Check your black privilege, amirite?

From my experience I was day guns and forced takeovers are the go-to for manipulating masses into obedience. We have obviously lived different lives.

I would like to respond to this, but it's all chopped up and I can't make sense of it.

But can I ask, when 'no blacks' posters were put up, did they just not lump all black people together, whether you were American, Ghanaian, Guyanese, did it not? Regardless of where you were from, just based on the colour of your skin you either could or couldn't use or access the privilege.

INNA. DuckDuckGo it.

 

[KarateCowboy]

Congratulations to those who think Putin is defender of white people. He just signed a law enabling him to stay in power until 2036.

Do you think dictatorships are great?

Putin signs law enabling him to stay in power until 2036

It's important to be able to see two separate issues and deal with them each individually. Bringing up a local Russian law that is not related to systemic racism against whites in America is pure, genuine, unfiltered Whataboutism.

 

[wing2000]

Congratulations to those who think Putin is defender of white people. He just signed a law enabling him to stay in power until 2036.

Do you think dictatorships are great?

Putin signs law enabling him to stay in power until 2036

I've come to appreciate over the past four years that some Americans admire authoritarian leaders such as Putin. Trump openly admired Purtin (and other such leaders) and did his best to destroy American institution, cheered on by the MAGA crowd. Fortunately, he did not succeed but the danger is still there....as evidenced by a Republican party that is willing to forsake basic democratic principles.

 

[Aldebaran]

I've come to appreciate over the past four years that some Americans admire authoritarian leaders such as Putin. Trump openly admired Purtin (and other such leaders) and did his best to destroy American institution, cheered on by the MAGA crowd. Fortunately, he did not succeed but the danger is still there....as evidenced by a Republican party that is willing to forsake basic democratic principles.

Who is actually destroying American institution but those who continue insisting that America's institutions are all inherently racist and must be dismantled?

 

[KCfromNC]

Who is actually destroying American institution but those who continue insisting that America's institutions are all inherently racist and must be dismantled?

Anyone have any idea who is being quoted here?

 

[Aldebaran]

Anyone have any idea who is being quoted here?

If it doesn't show up on your screen, it means you have the quoted person on your ignore list.

 

[essentialsaltes]

If it doesn't show up on your screen, it means you have the quoted person on your ignore list.

I think (just as I did) KCfromNC is having a hard time understanding who you mean, when you are speaking of "those who continue insisting that America's institutions are all inherently racist and must be dismantled?"

I mean, America's acceptance of African slavery was inherently racist, and we dismantled it. But in the context of the original comment, I don't know that anyone has decried the official certification of election results as inherently racist.

 

[Aldebaran]

I think (just as I did) KCfromNC is having a hard time understanding who you mean, when you are speaking of "those who continue insisting that America's institutions are all inherently racist and must be dismantled?"

I mean, America's acceptance of African slavery was inherently racist, and we dismantled it. But in the context of the original comment, I don't know that anyone has decried the official certification of election results as inherently racist.

I was referring to the woke culture, and people here who seem to subscribe to it that keep saying that American institutions, American government, and basically the entire "system" is inherently racist.

 

[KCfromNC]

I was referring to the woke culture, and people here who seem to subscribe to it that keep saying that American institutions, American government, and basically the entire "system" is inherently racist.

I guess the answer is no, no one seems to actually know the names of the people being refereed to in posts like these.

 

[durangodawood]

It's important to be able to see two separate issues and deal with them each individually. Bringing up a local Russian law that is not related to systemic racism against whites in America is pure, genuine, unfiltered Whataboutism.

I have no problem with anyone staring a thread about racism in America which leaves Russia out of the topic.