Russia condemns racism against white Americans

[Sparagmos]

Something is systemic when it exists within a system regardless of the individuals implementing the system. For example alcoholics anonymous has their famous 12-step system. One of the steps is to acknowledge the authority of God or a higher power. You could accurately describe this as systemic theism. Id est, it is theism that is part of the system regardless of who is implementing it.

So systemic racism is racism that exists within the system regardless of the person's operating or implementing it. What that means is policies, programs, procedures, and whole institutions that discriminate on the basis of race. When we look at America today, that is virtually always anti-white. In universities they have fought tooth and nail to be able to discriminate against White people. And increasingly we are seeing the same thing in businesses, K12 education, and government. Coca-cola, Nike, Google, Apple, Amazon, Disney, Marvel, Wizards, Nabisco --I can't buy a cookie without engaging an institution that has special programs, policies and procedures that give special benefits to everyone on the basis of race except whites.

You would be hard-pressed to find an institution that is not bending over backwards to help everyone except White people. As such, my point stands as factual

Then explain why white people hold disproportionate power in all of those institutions and companies.

 

[KarateCowboy]

Then explain why white people hold disproportionate power in all of those institutions and companies.

Are you denying the existence of all the discrimination I described? Are you telling me universities have not fought tooth and nail to discriminate against whites?

 

[Sparagmos]

Are you denying the existence of all the discrimination I described? Are you telling me universities have not fought tooth and nail to discriminate against whites?

Will you address my post? If there is discrimination against whites, why do whites hold disproportionate power in those institutions and companies?

 

[KarateCowboy]

Will you address my post? If there is discrimination against whites, why do whites hold disproportionate power in those institutions and companies?

You didn't address mine. You changed the subject. And, I don't buy your premise. If I did, though, I would imagine it's similar to why Jews are disproportionately represented among the wealthy, powerful, and billionaires. Or why blacks are disproportionately represented among the wealthy and powerful in sports.

So there, that's the best I have. So: do you deny that among universitiies, government, and corporate America, the most common systemic racism is ant-white? Or, do you insist that major corporations, etc, are replete with programs, scholarships, and policies that give special benefits to people simply for being white?

 

[ViaCrucis]

You got the right one, baby

If you could avoid calling me "baby" in the future, that would be quite appreciated.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[KarateCowboy]

If you could avoid calling me "baby" in the future, that would be quite appreciated.

-CryptoLutheran

Uh huh.

 

[Pommer]

White privilege is hate speech and a myth

Also, I'm a Slav and Catholic, so not relevant. Try again.

On a side note,

Progressives: Borders are just imaginary lines; no person is illegal

Also Progressives: Borders are real and whites are non-indigenous colonizers. Somehow non-indigenous blacks and yellows don't count. Because reasons.

Complaints of racism against white people is exactly what one would expect when white people view their privilege as evaporating.

My brother got a DNA test done (as a Father’s Day “gift”), and it turns out that we’re white, white, white. I am thrilled, though, to have my BIPOC friends enjoy the freedoms (and responsibilities) that I currently hold given my status in this country that I largely have by “virtue” of my white heritage alone.

 

[Estrid]

From the article:

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Thursday warned that anti-white racism might be building in the United States and said that political correctness “taken to the extreme” would have lamentable consequences.

{snip}

“We were pioneers of the movement promoting equal rights of people of any skin color,” he said.

But Lavrov stressed it was important “not to switch to the other extreme which we saw during the ‘BLM’ (Black Lives Matter) events and the aggression against white people, white U.S. citizens.”

Article continues here: Russia Warns of Anti-White 'Aggression' in U.S. - The Moscow Times

Don't know why they'd have American best interests in mind, but yeah.
Right on.

 

[Estrid]

Complaints of racism against white people is exactly what one would expect when white people view their privilege as evaporating.

My brother got a DNA test done (as a Father’s Day “gift”), and it turns out that we’re white, white, white. I am thrilled, though, to have my BIPOC friends enjoy the freedoms (and responsibilities) that I currently hold given my status in this country that I largely have by “virtue” of my white heritage alone.

You actually don't think anti white racism is not a thing?

 

[KarateCowboy]

Complaints of racism against white people is exactly what one would expect when white people view their privilege as evaporating.

My brother got a DNA test done (as a Father’s Day “gift”), and it turns out that we’re white, white, white. I am thrilled, though, to have my BIPOC friends enjoy the freedoms (and responsibilities) that I currently hold given my status in this country that I largely have by “virtue” of my white heritage alone.

A privilege, by definition, is "a special, unearned benefit, beyond what is normal or expected". There is nothing that being white gives you which meets that definition.

 

[ForHimbyHim]

ForHimbyHim: Don't talk about a place when you don't know it's history

Also ForhimByHim: Black people were displaced from a nation that is more than 95% black.

I am so glad you bought this up, the small minority of colonisers, owned majority of the land.

I really don't want to get into a race argument, our issues in Southern Africa are more recent. I am not sure I can contain myself. There is just too much there. Too much. Way too much.

 

[Estrid]

You didn't address mine. You changed the subject. And, I don't buy your premise. If I did, though, I would imagine it's similar to why Jews are disproportionately represented among the wealthy, powerful, and billionaires. Or why blacks are disproportionately represented among the wealthy and powerful in sports.

So there, that's the best I have. So: do you deny that among universitiies, government, and corporate America, the most common systemic racism is ant-white? Or, do you insist that major corporations, etc, are replete with programs, scholarships, and policies that give special benefits to people simply for being white?

Lots of anti Asian discrimination for academic overschievement.

 

[Pommer]

You actually don't think anti white racism is not a thing?

Individually, sure.
Systemically? Of course not.

 

[Pommer]

A privilege, by definition, is "a special, unearned benefit, beyond what is normal or expected". There is nothing that being white gives you which meets that definition.

Enjoy your privilege.
I cannot.

 

[Estrid]

Individually, sure.
Systemically? Of course not.

Prease exprain 'systemic ' in this context.

 

[Estrid]

Enjoy your privilege.
I cannot.

So what's your plan of divestiture.

 

[KarateCowboy]

Enjoy your privilege.
I cannot.

I don't find systemic racism to be a privilege. I'm curious, though: what kind of hateful ideology compels the woke to tell me I'm privileged to have the Klan bomb my church and throw rocks at my family members?

My dad applied for a promotion(to become a supervisor) at work. By every objective measure he was the most qualified. He was also the most liked by his would-be subordinates. However, the Post Office had systemic racism, and so the position was given to a considerably less qualified candidate who happened to be black and female. Perhaps you can help me understand how that constitutes privilege for a man who had rocks thrown at him by the Methodist kids because he was a Catholic and a Slav?

So what's your plan of divestiture.

Yup. Always apropos. I've seen a thousand self-hating whites who claim to have privilege in their oikophobic self-flagellation, but never have the spine to go back to Europe and give all their "privilege" to the BIPOCters. It always goes far enough to try and elevate themselves above Slavs who won't self-flagellate, but not quite far enough to do what their own standards logically would require of them

 

[KarateCowboy]

I am not sure I can contain myself. There is just too much there. Too much. Way too much.

Confucius says: No greater slave is there than the man who cannot master his own emotions and is instead mastered by them.

 

[Estrid]

I don't find systemic racism to be a privilege. I'm curious, though: what kind of hateful ideology compels the woke to tell me I'm privileged to have the Klan bomb my church and throw rocks at my family members?

My dad applied for a promotion at work. By every objective measure he was the most qualified. He was also the most liked by his would-be subordinates. However, the Post Office had systemic racism, and so the position was given to a considerably less qualified candidate who happened to be black and female. Perhaps you can help me understand how that constitutes privilege for a man who had rocks thrown at him by the Methodist kids because he was a Catholic and a Slav?



Yup. Always apropos. I've seen a thousand self-hating whites who claim to have privilege in their oikophobic self-flagellation, but never have the spine to go back to Europe and give all their "privilege" to the BIPOCters. It always goes far enough to try and elevate themselves above Slavs who won't self-flagellate, but not quite far enough to do what their own standards logically would require of them

I dont understand the psychology of it
so I can't get very analytical. Maybe it
makes them fell virtuous, maybe it's
expiation of America's original sin.

Either way or whatever way it's cheaper than
going to Europe.

As for me I was born into a lot of
privilege. It's not my doing any more than
Eve's alleged apple chomping is my responsinility.

But if someone wants to wallow in Guilt.
let them.

 

[KarateCowboy]

I dont understand the psychology of it
so I can't get very analytical. Maybe it
makes them fell virtuous, maybe it's
expiration of America's original sin.

Either way or whatever way it's cheaper than
going to Europe.

As for me I was born into a lot of
privilege. It's not my doing any more than
Eve's alleged apple chomping is my responsinility.

But if someone wants to wallow in Guilt.
let them.

You know what's kind of funny is that America's original bigotry is not racism but papaphobia, eg anti-Catholicsm. The Puritan and other protestant pilgrims were virulently anti-Catholic, almost a century before the first black slave set foot on American soil. They wouldn't allow practices such as dancing around a Maypole. It was too Catholic.

I think you have the "cheap" part down. It's like these slacktivists who say they're "fighting the good fight" by putting self-hating intellectual flatulence on Twitter. Who needs quiet, hard work and sacrifice when you can extol the "virtue" of oikophobia by tearing down the "us"?