Proof of Vaccination and biometrics - as a new kind of "passport"

[BobRyan]

from: What You Need to Know About Your Vaccine Card

"With some destinations, cruise lines and venues already requiring travelers to provide proof of vaccination against Covid-19, keeping that record is key. In New York, for example, proof of vaccination or a recent negative test will be required for entry into large venues or catered events when they are allowed to reopen at reduced capacity on April 2. Proof will be required at events with more than 100 people, so anyone having a wedding or Sweet 16 with more attendees will have to ask guests for evidence that they are complying with the rules.

"There are already a number of vaccination “passport” initiatives underway that would make vaccination status easy to share digitally. Clear, a biometric screening program used in airports across the country, and the technology company IBM have created their own passes, for instance. And last week, New York became the first state to introduce a digital tool to allow people to easily show that they have either tested negative or been inoculated against the virus in order to gain entry into some events and venues."

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so if you click on that "vaccination Passport" link above you will find this quote

"Among governments and those in the travel industry, a new term has entered the vocabulary: vaccine passport.

"One of President Biden’s executive orders aimed at curbing the pandemic asks government agencies to “assess the feasibility” of linking coronavirus vaccine certificates with other vaccination documents, and producing digital versions of them.

"Denmark’s government said in early February that in the next three to four months, it will roll out a digital passport that will allow citizens to show they have been vaccinated."

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Recall that the CDC said that if everyone in the room has been vaccinated then no covid protocols at all are required - but if even one person in the room has not been vaccinated then it is back to full on covid protocols for everyone in the room.

 

[Freth]

Good thing I don't care to travel, or go to New York.

 

[friend of]

This is how the mark of the beast starts.

 

[The Transcendentian]

This is how the mark of the beast starts.

How to determine the truth of this matter?

 

[IntriKate]

This is how the mark of the beast starts.

I agree, something just isn't right about all the different pieces being placed. We shouldn't be so quick to rule out any possibility of these pieces all becoming one completed picture .

 

[revybub]

This is how the mark of the beast starts.

certainly a good test run for it. People are trusting things to easy and not questioning anything. They just want their so called "freedom" back. They will do just about anything for it.

 

[revybub]

I agree, something just isn't right about all the different pieces being placed. We shouldn't be so quick to rule out any possibility of these pieces all becoming one completed picture .

agreed

 

[IntriKate]

certainly a good test run for it. People are trusting things to easy and not questioning anything. They just want their so called "freedom" back. They will do just about anything for it.

The sad irony is that we will lose all freedom ...unless we comply and obey.. yep sounds like freedom to me.

 

[alertandawake]

This is how the mark of the beast starts.

And I myself have been thinking along these lines. Depending where one lives, how many people here have paid attention that there are places considering requiring proof of vaccination before being allowed entry into certain venues? Or even requiring vaccination in order to do particular type of job?

A person requiring to show vaccination status or proof they are negative to a particular type of disease appears to be leaving the same foot print when one compares the mark of the beast prophecy.

Curious thing, but did anyone read up on an incident about the severe rash side effects with skin peeling off?

Rev 16.2 describes a side effect of some kind but after looking at the greek, what if the side effects could be something even more severe? The greek word for "sores" is helkos look up G1668. It can mean festering sores, which can refer to a sore containing pus. What if Rev 16.2 describes people getting something injected into them, and as a consequence get these kind of sores?

 

[Freth]

The vaccine itself wouldn't be the mark of the beast, but the power grab that happened in 2020 will most likely never be relinquished, but instead be transformed into a "great reset" or "new world order" for the "common good" and the climate. Control was seized under the guise of what's best for humanity, which is a perfect vehicle to usher in the beast system and the mark. Revelation points to worship as the determining factor as to whether you receive the mark or the Seal. I wouldn't be looking for anything physical, but mandated worship.

 

[alertandawake]

Revelation points to worship as the determining factor as to whether you receive the mark or the Seal. I wouldn't be looking for anything physical, but mandated worship.

Firstly, what is understood by the term "worship"? Now in the greek the word is proskuneō (lookup G4352). Looking at all the meanings on studybible info for this word, one definition is "to make obeisance". Now in the context of the mark of the beast, this looks like people are submitting themselves to a higher authority in order to continue to be part of society and continue to engage in trade or other related activities.

Secondly the greek word for "mark" is charagma. The meaning of "charagma" on studybible info makes it clear this is something of a physical nature.

What we need to look for is something that either be compulsory or something that is not directly compulsory but indirectly compulsory.

Now when I say "not directly compulsory but indirectly compulsory" I refer to the following concept. Let us say for arguments sake that a vaccine of some kind is required for everyday living (going to the shops, going to work and so on). Those in charge may not make the vaccine mandatory, but businesses can demand that a person be vaccinated in order to enter the premises or go to their place of employment. And reality is this is what we are starting to see.

 

[ThisIsMe123]

This is how the mark of the beast starts.

People thought that of the social security number, and other number of things.

And I myself have been thinking along these lines. Depending where one lives, how many people here have paid attention that there are places considering requiring proof of vaccination before being allowed entry into certain venues? Or even requiring vaccination in order to do particular type of job?

A person requiring to show vaccination status or proof they are negative to a particular type of disease appears to be leaving the same foot print when one compares the mark of the beast prophecy.

Curious thing, but did anyone read up on an incident about the severe rash side effects with skin peeling off?

Rev 16.2 describes a side effect of some kind but after looking at the greek, what if the side effects could be something even more severe? The greek word for "sores" is helkos look up G1668. It can mean festering sores, which can refer to a sore containing pus. What if Rev 16.2 describes people getting something injected into them, and as a consequence get these kind of sores?

What I find silly is how is the considered the "mark of the beast" when vaccinations that have existed for decades were required to enter into college campuses and other countries. I know I had to be up to date on my vaccinations in order to enter the university I attended. Was that the "mark of the beast"? Turns out...nope.

This is nothing new either...just the virus.

I mean, when babies are born, vaccinations are required.

Those in charge may not make the vaccine mandatory, but businesses can demand that a person be vaccinated in order to enter the premises or go to their place of employment. And reality is this is what we are starting to see.

The bolded...and not a really a bad thing either.

And you can't blame them for this either. Shop owners reserve their right to refuse entry if no one can offer up proof of vaccination, at least until we reach herd immunity...then likely businesses will ease off on it.

I remember when people went nuts when Facebook decided move on to their own messaging app, people went nuts over it, telling everyone NOT to download it that it's "big brother watching"

Then the wave of this "terrible" thing subsided, and people use messenger as if it were nothing.

Where I work, we require people to sign in up front, a small population refuse to do it based on this very thing. For, you know..."big brother" "mark of the beast"

"Big brother" "mark of the beast" boogie men to get hyped up about.

 

[friend of]

People thought that of the social security number, and other number of things

Just because the SIN wasn't the mark doesn't mean the mark ain't coming.

 

[ThisIsMe123]

Just because the SIN wasn't the mark doesn't mean the mark ain't coming.

Doesn't mean whatever is happening with the vaccine is the "mark" either. But hey, people have an interest in talking about it because it gives a sense of excitement and intrigue.

 

[friend of]

Doesn't mean whatever is happening with the vaccine is the "mark" either. But hey, people have an interest in talking about it because it gives a sense of excitement and intrigue.

Yes, but we as Christians are called to be aware of the world and times we are living in. We know that there is an spiritual adversary out there intent on destroying us and the world. Not everybody knows about the devil. The devil wants a NWO and to control the world. That's not conspiracy theory, its conspiracy fact.

 

[alertandawake]

Well if you look at the "buy and sell" reference if you look at the word "buy" in the greek it is agorazō (G59 look it up).

Another reference can be "to be in the market place" and this can mean people going to shopping centres to do their shopping and so on.

And the "sell" part, what are people doing when they are selling? They are doing their job.

Now whether a vaccine is or is not the mark of the beast, only time will tell. However, the concept that businesses and other organizations requiring people to be vaccinated (or show they are not infected with a certain disease/illness) is starting to emerge. Now if a organization or a business requires people to be vaccinated to do a certain job or people need to be vaccinated in order to enter premises (like having a coffee inside the premises and so on) what does that sound like?

But you know what, people can make their own choices. We are seeing evidence today of where this world is headed, but people continue to refuse to see and hear the evidence.

Apart from this current pandemic the world is facing, this can also be used to bring in a fully cashless society. Get rid of money due to health concerns (and cards and cheques) and go fully cashless only using electronic payments. With the wireless payment systems today, you also got your social distancing.

But the reality is, vaccine requirements is the only thing I can think of that in theory matches the mark of the beast prophecy. Diseases affect everyone, makes no difference if person is rich or poor, a peasant or a king, makes no difference. Diseases affect everyone.

 

[public hermit]

There is clear precedent for this kind of thing, already. Think of the existing International Certificate of Vaccination ("yellow card"). I suppose one response from Christians is to get all freaked out that it's the MOB. I don't think that's helpful, but to each their own. People have to show they have been vaccinated for a number of reasons. This is nothing new, except it is on a global scale. When you have a global pandemic, you have to try and have a global response, if such is possible.

My hope is that enough people will get vaccinated that in a year or two this will be just one more thing that some Christians misjudged and wasted their energy fretting over. I hate that for them, but it's their choice. We have so many more important things to do like love kindness, do justice and walk humbly with our God. Perfect love casts out fear. Indulging fear seems wrong headed.

International Certificate of Vaccination or Prophylaxis - Wikipedia

 

[ThisIsMe123]

Well if you look at the "buy and sell" reference if you look at the word "buy" in the greek it is agorazō (G59 look it up).

Another reference can be "to be in the market place" and this can mean people going to shopping centres to do their shopping and so on.

And the "sell" part, what are people doing when they are selling? They are doing their job.

Now whether a vaccine is or is not the mark of the beast, only time will tell. However, the concept that businesses and other organizations requiring people to be vaccinated (or show they are not infected with a certain disease/illness) is starting to emerge. Now if a organization or a business requires people to be vaccinated to do a certain job or people need to be vaccinated in order to enter premises (like having a coffee inside the premises and so on) what does that sound like?

Sounds like a health ordinance. I mean, there's a requirement to wear hair nets and/or gloves or at least gloves to work at a Subway, right?

It's only but a health measure.

People need to stop reading into this more than it really is.

My hope is that enough people will get vaccinated that in a year or two this will be just one more thing that some Christians misjudged and wasted their energy fretting over.

Yes, THANK YOU.

This post was just an excuse to have something to talk about, nothing more. It'll then a blip on the radar of the Google archives.

 

[ThisIsMe123]

I'll leave this here:

Cornell will require vaccinations for students returning to campus in fall; expects full in-person learning

 

[hedrick]

I'll leave this here:

Cornell will require vaccinations for students returning to campus in fall; expects full in-person learning

The university I work at has required vaccinations for years. This just adds Covid vaccine to the list. Similarly, there have been requirements for travel.