Which Protestant Church / Group is the most Catholic?

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Which Protestant Church / Group is the most Catholic?

And why?

In other words, which one comes closest to Catholic teaching or practice?
That is tough. The Anglicans can be, especially in Liturgy. The Lutheran Liturgy is also very similar. But as to actual teachings....Rome kind of stands alone there. There are a number of individual or small Anglican or Old Catholic groups that might be the closest, obviously the SSPX, but they are not really in the same category as you are asking about.

Rome is Rome, and if you are feeling drawn to the teachings then it may be worthwhile to explore "Crossing the Tiber". There really is no way to be "Catholic" and also not be "Catholic". Being in communion with the Bishop of Rome is a central part of the Catholic belief system and experience. If you are not actually in communion but also want to follow all the teachings of Rome then in the end it is just a superficial shadow of the Catholic Church.

The Anglican and Lutheran church service and beliefs may be close from a superficial standpoint, but there are reasons that they are not the same and don't worship or believe the same as the RCC. I can say that as a lapsed Catholic myself, making the transition to the Lutheran Divine service from the Novus Ordo mass was simple.
 
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Thought this might make for some interesting discussion / opinions.

Which Protestant Church / Group is the most Catholic?

And why?

In other words, which one comes closest to Catholic teaching or practice?
I think in liturgy it is the High Anglican churches; but their theology is so broad that they are not the closest to Catholicism in beliefs. For that I would say the more conservative Lutheran branches are closest. As TampaSteve noted, Catholicism is monolithic with the Pope as the head. So to "be" Catholic is to acknowledge that hegemony.
 
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Interesting question, HatGuy.

The answer just about has to be the Anglicans UNLESS, that is, we classify Anglicanism as something other than Protestant. There are academicians and publishers, etc. who classify the churches as Catholic, Orthodox, Anglican, Protestant, and (maybe) Old Catholic or, possibly, Mormon.
 
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Thought this might make for some interesting discussion / opinions.

Which Protestant Church / Group is the most Catholic?

And why?

In other words, which one comes closest to Catholic teaching or practice?

My best guess would be certain very traditional Anglo Catholics, some of those people are basically so Catholic, that they are Catholics without the pope, e.g. they have devotion to the Rosary, and other saintly devotion etc. besides the traditional sacraments and liturgy.


I would probably put "Saint Thomas" Christians in second place.

Saint Thomas Christians - Wikipedia
 
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Thought this might make for some interesting discussion / opinions.

Which Protestant Church / Group is the most Catholic?

And why?

In other words, which one comes closest to Catholic teaching or practice?
The ones that apply the anathema to the church elements.
 
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I think in liturgy it is the High Anglican churches; but their theology is so broad that they are not the closest to Catholicism in beliefs. For that I would say the more conservative Lutheran branches are closest. As TampaSteve noted, Catholicism is monolithic with the Pope as the head. So to "be" Catholic is to acknowledge that hegemony.

Jesus Christ is the head of His church, not the Pope.

Colossians 1:18, "He [Jesus] is the head of the body, the church, as well as the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that he himself may become first in all things.
 
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Id say high anglicans.
A word of caution here, folks. High Church and Low Church, popular terms for different kinds of Anglicans, describe how much ceremony they prefer.

It doesn't mean that one is ritualistic and the other is not, or that the beliefs are much different. There are High Church Evangelical Anglicans and there are also Low Church Anglicans who are more traditionalistic or conservative in doctrine.

Normally, this wouldn't matter much in our talks here, but in view of this thread's topic, it might.
 
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A word of caution here, folks. High Church and Low Church, popular terms for different kinds of Anglicans, describe how much ceremony they prefer.

It doesn't mean that one is ritualistic and the other is not, or that the beliefs are much different. There are High Church Evangelical Anglicans and there are also Low Church Anglicans who are more conservative, doctrinally speaking.

Normally, this wouldn't matter much in our talks here, but in view of this thread's topic, it might.
That's useful, since the only high and low I've heard was a high view of the bible meaning conservative, and a low view meaning liberal. Thanks for posting.
 
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That's useful, since the only high and low I've heard was a high view of the bible meaning conservative, and a low view meaning liberal. Thanks for posting.
No, that would be quite incorrect. ;)
 
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I would throw in the Calvinist as well. I say that as John Calvin had Michael Servetus burned at the stake for heresy.
In general, Calvinism is rather opposed to most Catholic practices and teachings, so would not be a good fit for the OP.

That's useful, since the only high and low I've heard was a high view of the bible meaning conservative, and a low view meaning liberal. Thanks for posting.
Interesting, I rarely hear "high and low" being used in this way, I almost exclusively read and hear it in terms of liturgical practice. But I suppose that probably depends on the circles that one usually is around.
 
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In general, Calvinism is rather opposed to most Catholic practices and teachings, so would not be a good fit for the OP.


Interesting, I rarely hear "high and low" being used in this way, I almost exclusively read and hear it in terms of liturgical practice. But I suppose that probably depends on the circles that one usually is around.
A bad spirit can exist in supposedly right teachings. If persecution follows a group for not accepting the supposedly right teachings, and they become a state church, I would say they are like the Catholic. As it was said of the Middle Ages...

The religious persecution that drove settlers from Europe to the British North American colonies sprang from the conviction, held by Protestants and Catholics alike, that uniformity of religion must exist in any given society. This conviction rested on the belief that there was one true religion and that it was the duty of the civil authorities to impose it, forcibly if necessary, in the interest of saving the souls of all citizens. Nonconformists could expect no mercy and might be executed as heretics. The dominance of the concept, denounced by Roger Williams as "inforced uniformity of religion," meant majority religious groups who controlled political power punished dissenters in their midst. In some areas Catholics persecuted Protestants, in others Protestants persecuted Catholics, and in still others Catholics and Protestants persecuted wayward coreligionists. Although England renounced religious persecution in 1689, it persisted on the European continent. Religious persecution, as observers in every century have commented, is often bloody and implacable and is remembered and resented for generations. - America as a Religious Refuge: The Seventeenth Century, Part 1 - Religion and the Founding of the American Republic | Exhibitions (Library of Congress)

This is what I would call the spirit of Jezebel that began of what I would also call the Thyatiran church age.
 
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A bad spirit can exist in supposedly right teachings. If persecution follows a group for not accepting the supposedly right teachings, and they become a state church, I would say they are like the Catholic. As it was said of the Middle Ages...

The religious persecution that drove settlers from Europe to the British North American colonies sprang from the conviction, held by Protestants and Catholics alike, that uniformity of religion must exist in any given society. This conviction rested on the belief that there was one true religion and that it was the duty of the civil authorities to impose it, forcibly if necessary, in the interest of saving the souls of all citizens. Nonconformists could expect no mercy and might be executed as heretics. The dominance of the concept, denounced by Roger Williams as "inforced uniformity of religion," meant majority religious groups who controlled political power punished dissenters in their midst. In some areas Catholics persecuted Protestants, in others Protestants persecuted Catholics, and in still others Catholics and Protestants persecuted wayward coreligionists. Although England renounced religious persecution in 1689, it persisted on the European continent. Religious persecution, as observers in every century have commented, is often bloody and implacable and is remembered and resented for generations. - America as a Religious Refuge: The Seventeenth Century, Part 1 - Religion and the Founding of the American Republic | Exhibitions (Library of Congress)

This is what I would call the spirit of Jezebel that began of what I would also call the Thyatiran church age.

Perhaps, but it still does not have anything to do with the OP's question. The OP is looking to answer the question "In other words, which one comes closest to Catholic teaching or practice?"
 
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Perhaps, but it still does not have anything to do with the OP's question. The OP is looking to answer the question "In other words, which one comes closest to Catholic teaching or practice?"
In which I listed a state church. Any state church comes close in practice, in my opinion, when they do not tolerate dissenters.
 
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In which I listed a state church. Any state church comes close in practice, in my opinion, when they do not tolerate dissenters.
State churches are official, and some countries have them. However, in the Christian world, other churches are permitted and "dissenters" from the state church are free to belong to them.
 
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