What is biblical authority...?

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If the requirement is what you say it is to “love God” then if the compliance is imperfect than does that mean we don’t love God according to scripture? Or is that as long as we try to “love God” which seems to be the best anyone can do since according to what you just said the compliance is imperfect.

According to Scripture love is being perfected in us, so it's a process, so at any given time we can love Him to the degree we are able and keep His word, love one another, love neighbor as self.

It includes, but is beyond just trying.
 
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But if it’s even possible to have been into Gods word and it’s not Gods word isn’t that a problem? Just the fact that it happened at all. Wether it added more credence or took away something is irrelevant. If it’s not original it’s not from God. You can’t even see how this could be a issue for anyone who is concerned about the actual truth?

It might have been an original text from the apostles, that didn't find it's way into scripture until later. It's of course a MAYBE.
 
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But election, predestination, Saturday Sabbath, Sunday Lord's Day, alcohol or no alcohol, etc., etc., etc. won't affect your destiny.
Election certainly affects a person's destiny, especially if they were passed over for it before the foundation of the world...I guess you mean 'a wrong idea about election' does not affect our destiny and there I agree with you unless...

unless, of course the meaning of our election is a hidden doctrine, just like the doctrine of the Divine Messiah was hidden to separate those who followed the Spirit from those who loved their religion (and their place in it) more than the leading of their GOD...that is,

if a new revelation of the meaning of election were to be given to make the same kind of separation in the end times as Jesus made with His revelation of Divinity, those who followed the Spirit into the new understanding of election would be the faithful and the oldtimers who stuck with the old definition would be in the place of the pharisees I guess.


Sort of important, perhaps.
 
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Wouldn't the authority of Scripture be grounded in its source/origin--"God-breathed" (2 Tim 3:16)?
Of course...but that is only understood by His flock who have gone astray into sin, not the reprobate who rejected HIM as their GOD, believing HIM to be a liar and a false GOD.
 
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But if it’s even possible to have been into Gods word and it’s not Gods word isn’t that a problem? Just the fact that it happened at all. Wether it added more credence or took away something is irrelevant. If it’s not original it’s not from God. You can’t even see how this could be a issue for anyone who is concerned about the actual truth?
Not for anyone in whom the Holy Spirit dwells.
 
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Election certainly affects a person's destiny, especially if they were passed over for it before the foundation of the world...I guess you mean 'a wrong idea about election' does not affect our destiny and there I agree with you unless...

unless, of course the meaning of our election is a hidden doctrine, just like the doctrine of the Divine Messiah was hidden to separate those who followed the Spirit from those who loved their religion (and their place in it) more than the leading of their GOD...that is,
if a new revelation of the meaning of election were to be given to make the same kind of separation in the end times as Jesus made with His revelation of Divinity, those who followed the Spirit into the new understanding of election would be the faithful and the oldtimers who stuck with the old definition would be in the place of the pharisees I guess.
Sort of important, perhaps.
What is important is faith and trust in Jesus Christ, not your understanding of election.
 
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Doesn’t doing the will of the father make everything essential?
The will of GOD is for you to to experience the discipline (which means: being flogged with the cat of nine tails), Heb 12:5-11, as you are trained in righteousness until you give up your memories of the pleasures and profits of sin and use your new freedom of choice (your free will restored from its enslavement to sin by your rebirth) to only serve humbly in love: Gal 5:13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.
 
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The will of the Father is Jesus' two commandments (Matthew 22:37-40).
That is what is essential, and covers the whole landscape.
Yes!...
but only after one has obeyed the command: 2 Corinthians 6:17 Therefore, "Come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you."

This must be done before the commands of your verses can be fulfilled. <shrug>
 
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Wasn't that about circumcision and the keeping of the ceremonial laws? Not a problem in our churches.

In Galatians re: that specific theology of circumcision, yes, but it also takes in concepts of sowing to the flesh and reaping corruption, which is not just the circumcision issue, IMO. Re: the gospel spoken of there, Paul says a gospel different than what he proclaimed, so this is not limited to the circumcision issue.

The concept of wrong theology is spoken of in several places in the NT. There are commands to not be deceived and warnings about how deceivers, deception, teachings of demons, etc. will be in play. There are also such things as Paul dealing with resurrection in 1 Cor 15 and how he says our faith is worthless if there is no resurrection. I suppose we could consider thinking we're through the narrow gate and on the narrow way while really being in an empty and worthless belief.

False gospels, false theologies, doctrines of demons, deceptions, and so on. It does not look like a minor matter the way I read Scripture. I see a lot working against our coming to Christ and a lot working against our being raised from infancy to maturity and beyond in Christ. So, much against getting through the narrow gate and moving along the narrow way. After maturity, Paul is still speaking about enemies of Christ's cross in the context of those opposing a continual pursuit of the upward call of God and arriving at the resurrection.
 
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My religious education was in a Catholic school and the bible did not seem to exist except for the Sunday liturgy and in the classroom Mark's and John's gospels. We learned church history, Aristotelian ethics, theology, doctrine and proofs for the existence of G-d from reason. To me authority is multi-faceted ie. the wisdom of mans discoveries revealed in scripture read in it's original context as far as we can; answers in dialogue with G-d; endeavouring to be the servant that my Spiritual path leads through those of wisdom I meet on the road.
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Not for anyone in whom the Holy Spirit dwells.
Can’t argue with that besides to say it’s still a little weird this is the same response people use when both people have the Holy Spirit but have differing views on scripture. I wonder do people ever take the time to consider what if what they think the spirit is telling them isn’t actually what the Holy Spirit is telling them. This is why I believe in a way religious minds are some of the most arrogant minds because they leave no room for the possibility they could be in error in regards to what they believe has been revealed to them. Thanks again
 
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Not usually but the Bible is without error... It is what GOD wanted to say and wanted to be written. For us.
How are you sure it’s without error? Are you certain of this or just what you believe?
 
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I'm guessing you mean that all three of these are wrong. (maybe not though)
The Bible is NOT God. (or shouldn't be)
My interpretation is NOT authoritative. (how can it be?)
And I'm NOT the Pope. (only room for one?)
I agree, an inanimate object is not God.
Interpretations are not authoritative.
The third one is kind of like how pastors would act like mini popes, then the next evolution was individuals doing the same thing. This is wrong, but it also happens.
 
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Are expressed, correct interpretations authoritative?
Correct by what standard? The bible itself has the saying "may God be true, and every man a liar." Therefore, to say your interpretation is correct, is to proclaim yourself God.
 
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In Galatians re: that specific theology of circumcision, yes, but it also takes in concepts of sowing to the flesh and reaping corruption, which is not just the circumcision issue, IMO. Re: the gospel spoken of there, Paul says a gospel different than what he proclaimed, so this is not limited to the circumcision issue.

The concept of wrong theology is spoken of in several places in the NT. There are commands to not be deceived and warnings about how deceivers, deception, teachings of demons, etc. will be in play. There are also such things as Paul dealing with resurrection in 1 Cor 15 and how he says our faith is worthless if there is no resurrection. I suppose we could consider thinking we're through the narrow gate and on the narrow way while really being in an empty and worthless belief.

False gospels, false theologies, doctrines of demons, deceptions, and so on. It does not look like a minor matter the way I read Scripture. I see a lot working against our coming to Christ and a lot working against our being raised from infancy to maturity and beyond in Christ. So, much against getting through the narrow gate and moving along the narrow way. After maturity, Paul is still speaking about enemies of Christ's cross in the context of those opposing a continual pursuit of the upward call of God and arriving at the resurrection.

I agree that theology is important, and of course not anything goes. Some teachings are heretical and should be treated as such. Still it's not theology that saves us, I quess that was my point.
 
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Some do, yes.
Those people area awesome and I love talking to them. I can actually learn something but from a perps. Who thinks they have all the answers and are unwilling to be honest about their lack of certainty. How can I learn from such a person? Is to really that hard to admit I’m confident in my belief but because it’s possible I may be wrong I will not judge another. Therefore all the violence and rudeness stops immediately.
 
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