You don't see one single example or verse suggesting that God replies to honest prayers for healing with death, in the entire New Testament. To quote pastor Dan Mohler,
Lucian Hodoboc:
You don’t see one single example or verse suggesting that G-d replies to honest prayer for healing with death, in the entire New Testament. To quote Pastor Mohler:
How can G-d give you a promise in the Bible and say He is faithful to His Word without turning or shifting of shadow, then you hold Him to His promise in relationship and love with a pure heart and sincerity and G-d turn the table on you and tell you - He has sovereignty changed His Mind – and He is G-d and you are not – and you just need to hang there.
If you taught your children this way, it would be a form of child abuse. You would teach them how to never honor your word. Devaluing the Word – Satan loves that because it devalues the honor of the Word. And G-d didn’t really mean what He said (same voice that Eve in the garden.)
JS: All what the pastor says would be true in regards to what you say if death were indeed an evil end and not healing, but I tell you this is not so:
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Death is swallowed up in victory. O death, where is your victory? I death, where is your sting?” 1Cor.16.54-55
Perhaps another true story of how HaShem answered prayer with death and death was a mercy indeed will help you see this situation does not apply:
Years ago we had friends who were also our neighbors. The wife was a strong Catholic, her husband -faith was grounded more in her saintly actions and love than in G-d’s power. So when she got inoperable cancer with enormous pain, his faith was deeply shaken. Of course all of those who love them prayed for healing. In our human understanding, her husband needed her to heal, he needed a miracle. Yet her situation worsened despite our prayers.
On the evening of her death, at that very hour, minute and second, my husband woke from a dream. In the dream she stood before him arms outstretched and surrounded by light saying she was healed and at peace smiling brightly as she once had before the cancer ravaged her body. Stunned he called that morning next door to find she died and relaid that dream to her grieving husband. It was then that both realized that dream came just as her spirit left her body!
So we got our miracle. Just not the one we thought we would be getting but an important miracle just the same. This was the first time my prayers ended up with the sick person being healed through death, but it would not be my last. My father died under such circumstances and his death brought healing, mercy and wonder. I shared this story on the writers section of CF. Its called In The Living Years, if your interested in reading of this (
In The Living Years).
Further that pastors’ position sounds too much like “lucky rabbits foot” praying or “Divine slot machine” praying. Did not Christ ask HaShem:
“Avinu, if it be possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not My will, but as Thy Wills.”
Did that cup pass? By no means. Did HaShem did not “changed His Mind” nor did He say “I am G-d and You are not”. Christ was aligned to HaShem, praise be He, He knew the answer before he asked it. Yet he asked anyway I believe, as an example to us on how to pray. Thus each prayer for healing, prosperity and mercy should be augmented by “nevertheless, not My will, but as Thy Wills” in some form.
To align ones prayers perfectly to the Will and full manifestation of HaShem, praise be He, thus Creation, one would needs a faith far stronger than I have. Further telling us “and you just need to hang there” which we received by the way, and then claiming that answer comes from Satan undermines the mercy we received and thousands of miracles we experienced while “hanging in there”! Indeed “hanging in there” happens to be called “The Dark Night of the Soul” or 23rd Ps:
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Yea though I walk through the valley of death, I will fear no evil, for Thou art with me. Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me. Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of my enemies, My cup overflows.” 4-5
It’s a blessing not a curse! Of course when HaShem says: “hang in there” He not changing His mind but ours, thus He’s clarifying His Will in our lives. I know this because during a very dark time over these past twenty some years I had a dream. In that dream I came out of my house smiling brightly.
The sun shined down, I was healthy, my smile perfect, everyone around me seemed the same. I thought something, it was a idea on a story, and suddenly into my mind I heard people giving me ideas. I knew my story was really our story and that didn’t bother me. I also knew I could go to HaMoshiach and ask for anything and He give it, only I needed nothing- I already had Shalom.
Five years ago when we first starting praying for healing of Micheal, his two daughter were still in high and middle school and dependent. He lost his job and went on disability then and had suffered four years of chemo and treatments that prolonged his life but at a cost. Throughout he been upbeat and mostly happy and a good support to those two girls. His life was not easy and these last year with isolation things started getting worse.
However, both girls have graduated and one is in collage and both are working. They are not the young struggling teens but both young accomplished and accomplishing women, and his ex wife had been providing for them while helping out him. Quiet honestly, this really isn’t a bad time to take him home. It hard for those left behind, but Tzalka (our former next door neighbor) said, “I’m healed; I’m at peace,” death wounds
us, not the one who is redeemed and gaining eternal Life.
I do not see or know when those I pray for die if they experience what Tzalka and my Father did. Their story is not my story and I now know the truth already, I do not need more. Still, for Lent and Pesach cleaning I place the prayer that I accept His perfect Will in my life. Thus the prayer:
May the words of my mouth and the meditations of my heart be pleasing to You my Rock and Redeemer, in the
Daily Amadah have taken on an entirely different meaning.
HaShem often says, My way is not your way. This is something we all must remember when we pray.
