Contraception is moral

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Whether abortion is moral or not has nothing to do with how the right views children or women.

it has EVERYTHING. You can't pretend to care about fetuses to the point of in some states making miscarriage a crime, but as soon as they are born you care nothing for them.

Oh they can't afford food, well it's their fault, we can't help raise minimum wage to make sure people can feed and house their families.

We can't increase funding to their education.

It's been pointed out that the right don't care about children or people as soon as they are born. Suddenly all that, "All life is precious." goes out the window, it's hypocrisy and really points to the fact that it's about controlling woman. If the right cared about people as much as fetuses and were as willing to help them then MAYBE it be more believable.

funny how it goes in one breath to, "Abortion is murder." to, "You can't force me to wear a mask, or close businesses to save lives." or, "She had sex, it's her fault I'm not paying for her child I forced her to have."
 
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it has EVERYTHING. You can't pretend to care about fetuses to the point of in some states making miscarriage a crime, but as soon as they are born you care nothing for them.

Oh they can't afford food, well it's their fault, we can't help raise minimum wage to make sure people can feed and house their families.

We can't increase funding to their education.

It's been pointed out that the right don't care about children or people as soon as they are born. Suddenly all that, "All life is precious." goes out the window, it's hypocrisy and really points to the fact that it's about controlling woman. If the right cared about people as much as fetuses and were as willing to help them then MAYBE it be more believable.

funny how it goes in one breath to, "Abortion is murder." to, "You can't force me to wear a mask, or close businesses to save lives." or, "She had sex, it's her fault I'm not paying for her child I forced her to have."


This is a left- right thing, with half of your citizens
gross hypocrites, not even human really as they care not
for children?
Personally, if I lived in the US, and felt the
"Other party" so unjustly aboutvme, I'd loathe them
right back, harder, as I'd have reason to.

Your democrat led big cities are probably the
worst places of all to beva child of poverty.

But no doubt as long as there are points, even just
self righteous virtue-points from name game finger pointing
and vilifying, well, thems points and a lot easier than
working for understanding and solutions.

You guys, honestly. I wont ever go back to live
in America.

The epitaph for America, if yiu get one
should read.

"What a ( expletive deleted) stupid waste"
 
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Your democrat led big cities are probably the
worst places of all to beva child of poverty.
Some Republican-run Southern states are arguably as bad or worse, and not all cities with poverty issues are run by Democrats.
 
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The result is the same.

So no difference.
The difference is that my goal is not to oppress women. Just as I don't believe your goal is to oppress the unborn. When rights conflict both parties cannot have whatever they want.
 
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The difference is that my goal is not to oppress women. Just as I don't believe your goal is to oppress the unborn. When rights conflict both parties cannot have whatever they want.
Results are what counts. So, you want to opress women, you just dont want to own up.
 
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In this case it's true "nonsense." Even if you believe that there is a "baby" from the moment of conception, abortion does not always kill it.
Label as you will, that which was aborted was alive.
 
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Some Republican-run Southern states are arguably as bad or worse, and not all cities with poverty issues are run by Democrats.

I'm pretty sure you got my point regarding
dem v rep in matters of caring and success.
 
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it has EVERYTHING. You can't pretend to care about fetuses to the point of in some states making miscarriage a crime, but as soon as they are born you care nothing for them.

Oh they can't afford food, well it's their fault, we can't help raise minimum wage to make sure people can feed and house their families.

We can't increase funding to their education.

It's been pointed out that the right don't care about children or people as soon as they are born. Suddenly all that, "All life is precious." goes out the window, it's hypocrisy and really points to the fact that it's about controlling woman. If the right cared about people as much as fetuses and were as willing to help them then MAYBE it be more believable.

funny how it goes in one breath to, "Abortion is murder." to, "You can't force me to wear a mask, or close businesses to save lives." or, "She had sex, it's her fault I'm not paying for her child I forced her to have."
I see you are not interested in truth but just want to rant about the right and that we all must be alike.
 
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Anti-abortion advocates are also often anti-contraception advocates. However, these beliefs are self-contradictory. If people have access to contraception and birth control, the amount of abortions significantly decrease. Claims can be made about the ethical implications of abortion, but these claims cannot be made in regards to contraception, since it prevents any unwanted pregnancy, thus making the lives of people easier and more pleasurable/comfortable. Additionally, if there is no fertilization of an egg, then there is no life in question.

I'm sorry, this original post makes far too much sense for someone with fewer than 10 posts. Where is the trolling and/or fictional personal situation?

By which I mean, "Welcome, relatively sane person."
 
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Results are what counts. So, you want to opress women, you just dont want to own up.
No, I acknowledge the fact that when two peoples rights are in conflict someone must give up some to make it fair and moral. You refuse to own up to the fact that the unborn have rights and you don't care about oppressing them.
 
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I see you are not interested in truth but just want to rant about the right and that we all must be alike.

I'm very interested in truth, I just love the hypocrisy of the right that pretend to care about babies but only care about fetuses. The world is starting to realize you guys are a bunch of jokes that just want to act moral while being immoral.
 
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No, I acknowledge the fact that when two peoples rights are in conflict someone must give up some to make it fair and moral. You refuse to own up to the fact that the unborn have rights and you don't care about oppressing them.
Hypothetical persons dont have rights.
 
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It depends on the type of contraception that is used. For example, the "Coil" prevents the already fertilized egg from embedding in the womb, this is a form of abortion.

It's not always so clear cut, black or white.
It's not human until it becomes more than one cell. It takes that first split, at least for me. But even then, I think this issue is a red herring. Kinda like pregnancy from rape.
 
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