China the-real-greenhouse-gas polluter

[disciple Clint]

Biden is killing Jobs and the economy while China is the real problem.

The United States’ overall GHG emissions “have been in decline (0.4 percent per year)” over the last decade, while those of China continue to spike up, growing at an average of 2.4 percent per year.
The Heritage Foundation estimates the United States’ commitment to the Paris Accord would cost the average American family of four $20,000 and the national gross domestic product $2.5 trillion by 2035 while achieving an insignificant amount of reduction in global temperature.
The Real Greenhouse-Gas Polluter Isn't The United States, It's China

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Sadly the only way GHG emissions will decline is if global population is drastically reduced.

 

[Semper-Fi]

President Barack Obama joined the Paris Agreement in 2016
by executive order. He bypassed Congress because he knew
Congress wouldn’t pass it. It was a dictatorial move.

The agreement obliged America to lead developed countries
in paying billion a year for actions on climate change.
And who would the money go to? The United Nations.

It may be the most corrupt institution in the world!
Millions of dollars the deeply indebted U.S. does not have.

China, which is the greatest polluter in the world, only
agreed to “achieve the peaking of carbon dioxide emissions
around 2030”, they have not even hit there peck limit yet.
Climate U-Turn: China Opens 17 New Coal Mines, Imports Surge

But America was forced by executive order into it.
The Pope had his hand in it with Obama, he calls capitalisms
the dung of the devil. Trump was right to pull us out of accord.

These efforts are extremely costly, and many governments
want to increase regulations even more—rules that would
gut the American economy.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I think they are burning our coal.

 

[Semper-Fi]

"The first lesson from the U.N. climate report is that the United States
is on a good trajectory to address climate-related issues and has made
consistent and meaningful progress.

As a nation, the United States does not have to sacrifice its economy
and the jobs of American workers to protect the environment.

Unfortunately, however, President Biden has already ignored this lesson,
with his Day One executive order directing the United States to rejoin
the Paris Accord."

 

[Semper-Fi]

Ratcliffe: Biden's ‘patience' policy towards China ignores intelligence
Ratcliffe: Biden's ‘patience' policy towards China ignores intelligence

Former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe argued on Monday that
the Biden administration's approach to the Chinese government is flawed
because it is "inconsistent" with what intelligence demands. 1/26/2021

 

[loveofourlord]

ahhh yes the china is the big polluter, ignoring that they are ACTUALLY doing stuff about pollution unlike the states. they pollute only twice as much as the states, but have 4 times the population...almost like they are doing a better job then the US about curbing their emissions.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but China is considered by the UN as a developing nation.

As a result, the Paris Climate Accord pays China to invest in alternative energy sources other than coal.

As a result, the rest of the world especially the US, has had a disadvantage in the development of solar energy as China used their status as a developing nation to invest in the industry themselves and dominate the global markets.

 

[loveofourlord]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but China is considered by the UN as a developing nation.

As a result, the Paris Climate Accord pays China to invest in alternative energy sources other than coal.

As a result, the rest of the world especially the US, has had a disadvantage in the development of solar energy as China used their status as a developing nation to invest in the industry themselves and dominate the global markets.

except all the US has to do is remove all the payments it gives to the oil companies to drill and put that money into investing in renewable resources.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

except all the US has to do is remove all the payments it gives to the oil companies to drill and put that money into investing in renewable resources.

Except that to do so would put the US into an automatic depression as technology isn't ready to go 100% non-fossil fuel energy

 

[Douger]

A quick search reveals that China's Co2 emissions per capita are less than half that of the United States.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

A quick search reveals that China's Co2 emissions per capita are less than half that of the United States.

Well doing a google search quickly shows China is the top polluter.

Here's there results :

Does China pollute the most?

With the world's largest population and for decades one of the fastest growing economies, China is far and away the world's top CO2 emitter. Close to 10,000 million metric tons of CO2 from burning fossil fuel were emitted by the superpower in 2017.

 

[Job 33:6]

Well doing a google search quickly shows China is the top polluter.

Here's there results :

Does China pollute the most?

With the world's largest population and for decades one of the fastest growing economies, China is far and away the world's top CO2 emitter. Close to 10,000 million metric tons of CO2 from burning fossil fuel were emitted by the superpower in 2017.

However, per capita, the US is the top polluter.

 

[Job 33:6]

Except that to do so would put the US into an automatic depression as technology isn't ready to go 100% non-fossil fuel energy

The goal of the climate accord is to set step by step goals that are achievable. Not to simply go 100% renewables overnight.

Really, it's pushing us toward a clean, renewable and energy independent future, which is an advantage.

 

[Semper-Fi]

A quick search reveals that China's Co2 emissions per capita are less than half that of the United States.

Chinese Growth And Climate Change: Is China A Responsible
Stakeholder In The Paris Climate Accord?
Chinese Growth And Climate Change: Is China A Responsible Stakeholder In The Paris Climate Accord?


The Chinese Communist Party Is an Environmental Catastrophe
Political ambitions make China’s emissions growth inevitable even as the economy falters.
The Chinese Communist Party Is an Environmental Catastrophe

 

[Job 33:6]

Chinese Growth And Climate Change: Is China A Responsible
Stakeholder In The Paris Climate Accord?
Chinese Growth And Climate Change: Is China A Responsible Stakeholder In The Paris Climate Accord?


The Chinese Communist Party Is an Environmental Catastrophe
Political ambitions make China’s emissions growth inevitable even as the economy falters.
The Chinese Communist Party Is an Environmental Catastrophe

Just because another country pollutes the environment, doesn't mean that our pollution is "un-real" or insignificant.

This is like saying that because adolf Hitler committed grave sins, that acts of homosexuality are un-real or insignificant because they have an appearance of a lesser sin. Of course such an excuse wouldnt go far with Jesus.

 

[Semper-Fi]

The dark side of ‘green energy’ and its threat to the environment - Deseret News

What happens to old solar panels, windmills and high tech batteries?

 

[klutedavid]

ahhh yes the china is the big polluter, ignoring that they are ACTUALLY doing stuff about pollution unlike the states. they pollute only twice as much as the states, but have 4 times the population...almost like they are doing a better job then the US about curbing their emissions.

That is a good point.

 

[klutedavid]

The goal of the climate accord is to set step by step goals that are achievable. Not to simply go 100% renewables overnight.

Really, it's pushing us toward a clean, renewable and energy independent future, which is an advantage.

Another good point. May I remind everyone, climate change is solely caused by the three big emitters.

Smaller countries like mine, will lift our coal exports and not really commit to reducing CO2 emissions. Remember folks, the evil three; the USA, China and India.

 

[klutedavid]

The dark side of ‘green energy’ and its threat to the environment - Deseret News

What happens to old solar panels, windmills and high tech batteries?

These alternative energy sources have not been around that long. So we are not really concerned with that question yet. Come back in twenty years from now and we can discuss it.