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Republican Ties to Extremist Groups Are Under Scrutiny
The video’s title was posed as a question, but it left little doubt about where the men who filmed it stood. They called it “The Coming Civil War?” and in its opening seconds, Jim Arroyo, who leads an Arizona chapter of Oath Keepers, a right-wing militia, declared that the conflict had already begun.

To back up his claim, Mr. Arroyo cited Representative Paul Gosar of Arizona, one of the most far-right members of Congress. Mr. Gosar had paid a visit to the local Oath Keepers chapter a few years earlier, Mr. Arroyo recounted, and when asked if the United States was headed for a civil war, the congressman’s “response to the group was just flat out: ‘We’re in it. We just haven’t started shooting at each other yet.’”

Less than two months after the video was posted, members of the Oath Keepers were among those with links to extremist groups from around the country who took part in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, prompting new scrutiny of the links between members of Congress and an array of organizations and movements that espouse far-right beliefs.

Nearly 150 House Republicans supported President Donald J. Trump’s baseless claims that the election had been stolen from him. But Mr. Gosar and a handful of other Republican members of the House had deeper ties to extremist groups who pushed violent ideas and conspiracy theories and whose members were prominent among those who stormed the halls of Congress in an effort to stop certification of President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory.
 
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After the last 4 years of "stuff" from the left it's not surprising they blame the right, they blamed everything else on them and never let up for a second. More corruption than a sewer pipe. Same old act as usual. By the way, neither side is any bargain in case no one has noticed. The entire ball of wax is upside down. So you can climb your high horse to nowhere, don't think you're above it all though ( meaning on the left ).
 
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After the last 4 years of bull from the left it's not surprising they blame the right, they blamed everything else on them and never let up for a second. More corruption than a sewer pipe. Same old act as usual. By the way, neither side is any bargain in case no one has noticed. The entire ball of wax is upside down. So you can climb your high horse to nowhere, don't think you're above it all.
the side that has the actual nazis on it seems to protest a lot these days huh. that's sort of the thing with these rightwing guys these days huh. they're just too afraid to be called nazis but like acting like them.
 
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Congress people calling for the murder of other congress people. Yeah that sort of thing will trigger some justified scrutiny.
Is there any evidence that Cruz called for the murder of AOC?
 
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Whataboutism and false equivalence.
Not at all simply applying the same standard to both sides, I know that is a novel concept and a shock to some people.
 
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Not at all simply applying the same standard to both sides, I know that is a novel concept and a shock to some people.

It's changing the subject.
 
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Whataboutism and false equivalence.
Until you actually look into it. But you don't look from an ivory tower downward, you look from the extreme groups position and then follow the money trail back to which political party supplied that money. If you ever bother to do that you will find Clint is correct. But my guess is you will never bother. And the liberal press as usual just covers it up as if it never existed, and so it doesn't exist. Call something white black over and over again, then bury the the origin and son of a gun if people don't start calling white black. And that's exactly where we are at today in the US.
 
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Until you actually look into it. But you don't look from an ivory tower downward, you look from the extreme groups position and then follow the money trail back to which political party supplied that money. If you ever bother to do that you will find Clint is correct. But my guess is you will never bother. And the liberal press as usual just covers it up as if it never existed, and so it doesn't exist. Call something white black over and over again, then bury the the origin and son of a gun if people don't start calling white black. And that's exactly where we are at today in the US.

I watch a variety of news sources, many of them non-American. And I fail to see how those sorts of statements are reflecting the consensus. The Right in America lives in its own bubble.
 
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Is there any evidence that Cruz called for the murder of AOC?
I was thinking about MTGreene, not Cruz.

I will have to look into what Cruz said, but I suspect he's too canny to be so blunt.
 
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