Trump mulls founding new ‘Patriot Party’ to compete with GOP, Dems: report

[Michie]

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Conservatives are frustrated with establishment Republicans, but there are fears that a third party would benefit Democrats in future elections.

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Trump mulls founding new ‘Patriot Party’ to compete with GOP, Dems: report

 

[Gregorikos]

"Fears" is an understatement. A new party to split the GOP would guarantee Democrats in power for the rest of my lifetime.

 

[Rachel20]

"Fears" is an understatement. A new party to split the GOP would guarantee Democrats in power for the rest of my lifetime.

The GOP is already dead. It can't win by popular vote, and there's enough discouraged conservatives who will stop voting that it can no longer win by electoral. The gig is up with the GOP and everyone knows it.

 

[.Mikha'el.]

I don't see such a party getting much more support than the Greens or Libertarians. Donald Trump doesn't have enough die-hard supporters to have any meaningful impact on the political landscape.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Both Dems and GOP need to learn how to talk to each other, listen to each other and compromise.

 

[chevyontheriver]

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Conservatives are frustrated with establishment Republicans, but there are fears that a third party would benefit Democrats in future elections.

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Trump mulls founding new ‘Patriot Party’ to compete with GOP, Dems: report

I'm frustrated with establishment Republicans too, but a pure Trumpist party isn't going to attract me at all.

I've hung with the American Solidarity Party even though it seems invisible. It might be suffering from 'failure to launch' much like the Elio car that almost made it but never actually launched. In software development we called it 'vaporware'.

So anyway, I'm frustrated by this moment in history where both of the big parties should crash and burn but they seem not to. If the Republican party crashes and burns ... great. If it's replaced by Trump ... ugh. At least that will leave room for a new centrist party. And the Democrats ... I don't know how they hang together. They should have fallen apart already. But I guess there is nothing like power to hold together a mess of a party.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Both Dems and GOP need to learn how to talk to each other, listen to each other and compromise.

I think the Dems and GOP would serve us well by shutting down. They can't talk or listen or compromise. Not any more.

 

[Sparagmos]

I don't see such a party getting much more support than the Greens or Libertarians. Donald Trump doesn't have enough die-hard supporters to have any meaningful impact on the political landscape.

Trump has so many die-hard supporters that Republican congresspersons went along with his voter fraud story when they knew it wasn’t true, just out of fear of losing their constituents. It’s why McConnel and Graham stood by him his entire presidency, even though they didn’t approve of his rhetoric or machinations. He has the whole Republican Party by a leash.

 

[Taodeching]

The GOP is already dead. It can't win by popular vote, and there's enough discouraged conservatives who will stop voting that it can no longer win by electoral. The gig is up with the GOP and everyone knows it.

Agreed. Me and my wife already re-registered away from the GOP. I don't want to be a part of a party that won't support the people.

 

[Taodeching]

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Trump mulls founding new ‘Patriot Party’ to compete with GOP, Dems: report

I would join right away and many of the 75 million people that know the election was stolen will too.

 

[.Mikha'el.]

Trump has so many die-hard supporters that Republican congresspersons went along with his voter fraud story when they knew it wasn’t true, just out of fear of losing their constituents. It’s why McConnel and Graham stood by him his entire presidency, even though they didn’t approve of his rhetoric or machinations. He has the whole Republican Party by a leash.

It won't last. His party would have to pick someone else to act as a leader or spokesman at some point, and its support would die.

 

[Wolseley]

"Fears" is an understatement. A new party to split the GOP would guarantee Democrats in power for the rest of my lifetime.

They're going to anyway. The precedent has now been set that any election can be manipulated and forced to produce a specific result, and any evidence of said manipulation will be squashed, ridiculed, and ignored. We had our last legitimate election in 2016. Barring a popular uprising, we will never have another. Voting now is like voting in the old Soviet Union: you can vote for whichever candidate you want, but the winner has already been chosen by the Central Committee of the Party.

Both Dems and GOP need to learn how to talk to each other, listen to each other and compromise.

Oh, no more, please! I can't breathe....LOLOLOL!!! Oh, my heart!

I'm frustrated with establishment Republicans too, but a pure Trumpist party isn't going to attract me at all.

I've hung with the American Solidarity Party even though it seems invisible. It might be suffering from 'failure to launch' much like the Elio car that almost made it but never actually launched. In software development we called it 'vaporware'.

So anyway, I'm frustrated by this moment in history where both of the big parties should crash and burn but they seem not to. If the Republican party crashes and burns ... great. If it's replaced by Trump ... ugh. At least that will leave room for a new centrist party. And the Democrats ... I don't know how they hang together. They should have fallen apart already. But I guess there is nothing like power to hold together a mess of a party.

America is at that difficult stage right now; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to start shooting people.

I would join right away and many of the 75 million people that know the election was stolen will too.

I hope they do. I refuse to join any political party, but nothing would please me more at this juncture than to see the complete demise of both major parties.

 

[Rachel20]

nothing would please me more at this juncture than to see the complete demise of both major parties.

Even if we see the demise of only one (GOP) that should be enough to destroy the Uniparty scam, which requires the facade of 2 opposing parties -

“The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies... is a foolish idea. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can throw the rascals out at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies.”
― Carroll Quigley (Bill Clinton's mentor at Georgetown U)