Trump impeached *again*.

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By definition, he is impeached. If the senate votes to convict, Trump cannot run for office again and he may lose benefits that a former president is entitled to.

Now, it is an open question as to whether the senate will vote to convict.

Dershowitz is clearly wrong.

Sorry but I'm going to believe Alan on this loooooong before some anonymous avatar on the internet.
 
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Sorry but I'm going to believe Alan on this loooooong before some anonymous avatar on the internet.
By definition, he is impeached. That is what the house did today. Alan is wrong. Since the senate won't hold a trial until after the 20th, he cannot be removed from office. Different thing.
 
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I wish the Senate would come back to attend to this ASAP.

The logistical reality is that no previous impeachment process was completed in a single week, and the Senate is currently out of session until the 19th.

Based on McConnell's statements, it's obviously going to fall to the next Senate to put Trump on trial. I hope that he's convicted and he loses his pension and healthcare benefits. I don't want to put another public dime in Treasonous Trump's pocket.
 
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The logistical reality is that no previous impeachment process was completed in a single week, and the Senate is currently out of session until the 19th.

Based on McConnell's statements, it's obviously going to fall to the next Senate to put Trump on trial. I hope that he's convicted and he loses his pension and healthcare benefits. I don't want to put another public dime in Treasonous Trump's pocket.
So...
If what you are saying is true can we go back and impeach any private citizen?
If it was true they never would have stopped Nixon's.
 
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By definition, he is impeached. If the senate votes to convict, Trump cannot run for office again and he may lose benefits that a former president is entitled to.
Now, it is an open question as to whether the senate will vote to convict.
Dershowitz is clearly wrong.
And you received your law degree where? Dershowitz taught constitutional law at Harvard for 49 years.
 
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So...
If what you are saying is true can we go back and impeach any private citizen?
If it was true they never would have stopped Nixon's.
No, but it doesn't matter. Trump was impeached this afternoon, while he was still in office.
 
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And you received your law degree where? Dershowitz taught constitutional law at Harvard for 49 years.
Oh for the love of Pete.

The first line of the article:
Harvard Law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz said Democrats have virtually no chance of successfully impeaching and removing President Donald Trump before Inauguration Day on Jan. 20.
It doesn't say what the headline says it does.

The key phrase is "successfully impeaching and removing". I've already agreed that he can't/won't be removed from office.

The house voted to impeach him. The word impeach is similar to indict. There will be a trial. Period. He is impeached. That is what the indictment is.

This is high school civics, folks.
 
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No, but it doesn't matter. Trump was impeached this afternoon, while he was still in office.
Nope.
Sorry.
No vote or trial in the Senate means no vote or trial in the Senate. Meaning that there's no impeachment.

Senate is in recess and going to stay that way until it's too late.

Alan Dershowitz is a reigning scholar and expert in these sorts of things. He was Donald's council in previous proceedings. He should know. He is a constitutional scholar.

He has the knowledge and experience to know. Others are simply hopeful wishing.
 
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The logistical reality is that no previous impeachment process was completed in a single week, and the Senate is currently out of session until the 19th.
Based on McConnell's statements, it's obviously going to fall to the next Senate to put Trump on trial. I hope that he's convicted and he loses his pension and healthcare benefits. I don't want to put another public dime in Treasonous Trump's pocket.
I wonder if those "law abiding" Democrats are going to apply the same diligence when dealing with Democrats who advocated violence against Republicans in general and Trump supported specifically? Silly me, of course not. And nobody over there sees anything wrong with this double standard.
 
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The article lied about what Dershowitz said. He merely said that Trump almost certainly will not be removed from office.
The ONLY chance was actually the 25th. (Incapable/incapacity)
Pence would be needed to agree. That ain't happening either.

Too late to do anything.

Nothing to do but get ready for more riots on the Capitol.
 
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What do these people think? That Trump has never been impeached since he wasn't removed from office? SMH
That first impeachment was official expunged, via tweet at least, remember?
 
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