Vice President incited riots

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If inciting riots is an offense that makes a person unfit for office, then that standard should be applied with equality. In Harris’s case, the riots she incited resulted in 25 deaths, injury to 2,000 police officers and a billion dollars in property damage, not to mention loss of all income for numerous business owners and their employees who got no help from the police as rioters burned their businesses to the ground.


 

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Nothing wrong with protesting.

To my mind where the pres stepped way over the line is in persisting in the gigantic lie of the "stolen election". That was, to paraphrase: holding a loaded gun to our democratic republic.
 
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If inciting riots is an offense that makes a person unfit for office, then that standard should be applied with equality. In Harris’s case, the riots she incited resulted in 25 deaths, injury to 2,000 police officers and a billion dollars in property damage, not to mention loss of all income for numerous business owners and their employees who got no help from the police as rioters burned their businesses to the ground.


I fail to see how this video clip:
1) Supports the accusations you've made
2) Equates to what President Trump said
 
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Nothing wrong with protesting.

To my mind where the pres stepped way over the line is in persisting in the gigantic lie of the "stolen election". That was, to paraphrase: holding a loaded gun to our democratic republic.

No worse than, "Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon!" or "Burn it all down!", and then proceeding to do so using molotov cocktails.
And let's not forget the 25 dead people, plus many more maimed or disabled by being hit in the head with bricks.
 
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No worse than, "Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon!" or "Burn it all down!", and then proceeding to do so using molotov cocktails.
And let's not forget the 25 dead people, plus many more maimed or disabled by being hit in the head with bricks.
Wow did Harris say those things? I may have to re think my support.
 
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Wow did Harris say those things? I may have to re think my support.

She encouraged those that did. "They will not stop, they should not stop".
This, after so much destruction, and so many deaths, but apparently not the deaths of those who matter. Anything to win an election.
 
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She encouraged those that did. "They will not stop, they should not stop".

Did she propagate lies regarding the protest subject?

This, after so much destruction, and so many deaths, but apparently not the deaths of those who matter. Anything to win an election.

Anything to win an election?

How about claiming fraud that didn't exist as fact?
How about repeating the lie that you won when you lost?
How about attempting to intimidate election officials into overturning election results?

Encouraging protests to support civil liberties is entirely different than encouraging protests to overturn election results that didn't go your way.

You are promoting a false equivalence.
 
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She encouraged those that did. "They will not stop, they should not stop".
This, after so much destruction, and so many deaths, but apparently not the deaths of those who matter. Anything to win an election.
Like I said, nothing wrong with protest.

My problem with the pres was his propagation of the gigantic lie, the kind of lie that if true we dont fault people for going to war over in other times and places. I mean, people here have died in wars for the principle of democratic self governance, among other things.
 
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Did she propagate lies regarding the protest subject?

She's made her entire career on lies about "racism". So yes.

Anything to win an election?

How about claiming fraud that didn't exist as fact?
How about repeating the lie that you won when you lost?
How about attempting to intimidate election officials into overturning election results?

Encouraging protests to support civil liberties is entirely different than encouraging protests to overturn election results that didn't go your way.

You are promoting a false equivalence.

The only thing they were attempting to do is get a 10 day review into the election process. All that garbage about "overturning election results" is simply repeating the propaganda you've been fed.

Meanwhile, you ignore the fact that 25 people are now dead as a result of what she encouraged her followers to do. That makes her unfit for office and a clear and present danger to this country.
 
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She's made her entire career on lies about "racism". So yes.

Feel free to provide evidence of Harris' lies about racism.

The only thing they were attempting to do is get a 10 day review into the election process. All that garbage about "overturning election results" is simply repeating the propaganda you've been fed.

Meanwhile, you ignore the fact that 25 people are now dead as a result of what she encouraged her followers to do. That makes her unfit for office and a clear and present danger to this country.

I can't even take you seriously. Trump isn't trying to get a review into the election process, he's attempting to overturn the election. He says it plainly in his speeches. He says it plainly in his call to Raffensperger. His surrogate (Rudy Giualani) made it clear that they wouldn't be satisfied until the results of the election were overturned.

Denying that Trump is trying to overturn the election is either a) dishonest or b) oblivious. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and suggest you take your head out of the sand and look at what Trump has been doing instead of pushing false equivalencies to justify his attempted coup.
 
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She's made her entire career on lies about "racism". So yes....
I suspect youre just throwing that out there with nothing to back it up.

Fact is, Harris was way down the list of social-justice people favorites precisely because of her tough-on-crime approaches as CA A.G. that were viewed as unjustly affecting minorities.
 
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Feel free to provide evidence of Harris' lies about racism.

VICTOR JOECKS: All things Kamala Harris no longer believes about Joe Biden

I can't even take you seriously. Trump isn't trying to get a review into the election process, he's attempting to overturn the election. He says it plainly in his speeches. He says it plainly in his call to Raffensperger. His surrogate (Rudy Giualani) made it clear that they wouldn't be satisfied until the results of the election were overturned.

Denying that Trump is trying to overturn the election is either a) dishonest or b) oblivious. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and suggest you take your head out of the sand and look at what Trump has been doing instead of pushing false equivalencies to justify his attempted coup.

You don't have to take me seriously. Just do some reading and learn for yourself.

"We should follow that precedent. To wit, Congress should immediately appoint an Electoral Commission, with full investigatory and fact-finding authority, to conduct an emergency 10-day audit of the election returns in the disputed states. Once completed, individual states would evaluate the Commission's findings and could convene a special legislative session to certify a change in their vote, if needed."

Joint Statement from Senators Cruz, Johnson, Lankford, Daines, Kennedy, Blackburn, Braun, Senators-Elect Lummis, Marshall, Hagerty, Tuberville | Ted Cruz | U.S. Senator for Texas
 
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I suspect youre just throwing that out there with nothing to back it up.

Fact is, Harris was way down the list of social-justice people favorites precisely because of her tough-on-crime approaches as CA A.G. that were viewed as unjustly affecting minorities.

She even used the race card against her new boss during the primaries. The whole "I was that little girl" speech she made is just one of many examples.
A master at playing the race card
 
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...The only thing they were attempting to do is get a 10 day review into the election process. All that garbage about "overturning election results" is simply repeating the propaganda you've been fed.....
The election has been stone cold dead for a while now. No conservative or liberal courts, no R or D jurisdiction law enforcement, no one, has found evidence of significant voter fraud.

Carrying on with it at this point is a lie, and a life or death dangerous lie for reason I mentioned in post 8.
 
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If inciting riots is an offense that makes a person unfit for office, then that standard should be applied with equality. In Harris’s case, the riots she incited resulted in 25 deaths, injury to 2,000 police officers and a billion dollars in property damage, not to mention loss of all income for numerous business owners and their employees who got no help from the police as rioters burned their businesses to the ground.


Well you’ve made your case. Now you just need to pick up a majority in the House and secure the votes to impeach her for it.
 
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The election has been stone cold dead for a while now. No conservative or liberal courts, no R or D jurisdiction law enforcement, no one, has found evidence of significant voter fraud.

Carrying on with it at this point is a lie, and life or death dangerous lie for reason I mentioned in post 8.

The evidence is there, even if the courts declined to even look at it, and Youtube continues to ban the video that was taken of ballots being counted from boxes brought in after observers were sent home.
 
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The evidence is there, even if the courts declined to even look at it, and Youtube continues to ban the video that was taken of ballots being counted from boxes brought in after observers were sent home.
Youtube video sez. Yeah Ive seen that type of "evidence" sent up and then shot down so many times its gotten boring. That standard doesnt cut it.
 
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Most of us werent born yesterday and have seen what happens between primary and general elections before.

In this case, Joe appeases the black voters (after taking them for granted) by selecting a black woman, and then she changes her tune about him.
 
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Youtube video sez. Yeah Ive seen that type of "evidence" sent up and then shot down so many times its gotten boring. That standard doesnt cut it.

Video evidence is no good then?
Then why is the (edited) video of Trump's speech at the rally good enough to use to impeach him?
 
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