Are we seeing the end of the (dis) United States?

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Thanks for this perspective. I'm 35 and not old enough to remember the Vietnam protests or prior race riots. I am concerned about the South rising again. I think to suppress them a second time is not good. Robert E. Lee's surrender was the first thing that many of them are still upset over, even 170 years later. The removal and subsequent censoring of Trump seems to be the straw that will break the camel's back. Ultimately I'm concerned that the Left's suppression will come back to bite them. When you're vindictive and proud, you tend to overplay your hand.

I think you ought to be far more concerned about finding yourself shortly in an increasingly communist country, taken there by the Marxist Dems, most of whom, I suspect, are in some measure in the pocket of the Chinese Communist Party. You won't like at all living in an authoritarian political regime that preaches equality and government care but has oppressed and killed more than 100 million people in the last century instead. Think Stalinist Russia, or Maoist China, or North Korea, or Cuba.

This is the plan of Xi Xiping, the elites of the WEF and their "Great Reset," and the leaders of the Dems in America.

God help us if the have their way! If history is anything to go by, it'll be oppression, poverty and death for us and obscene power and affluence for the elites.
 
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I suspect, are in some measure in the pocket of the Chinese Communist Party
More likely under the gaze of Tech which the Chinese use also. The reset is more about a tech state in the new order than about any political platform. Surveillance is king especially where data reigns supreme in today's world. As for oppression, well that is all part of the end of days so enjoy the ride. They'll get theirs in the end.
 
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It’s an amazing thing to see a group of people who have never known true oppression and their take on what makes them marginalized and oppressed.

As if Congress knows what oppression is. They're among the most privileged people in the world, yet we're supposed to feel sorry about their workday being disrupted for a couple of hours...
 
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As if Congress knows what oppression is. They're among the most privileged people in the world, yet we're supposed to feel sorry about their workday being disrupted for a couple of hours...
Oh come on now. Your saying this wasn't comparable to the storming of the Bastille??? These violent organized insurrectionists halted operations for 2 whole hours and even stole a few thousand dollars worth of furnishings. They may have to start nailing down all the made in china hardware. We don't have the pork...I mean budget for all this where would we cut??? Atleast they left the carpets clean when they left.
 
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Going to be interesting to watch the media fuelled frenzy meltdown over the next few days as people think their little world may end without immediate panic. lol. People have totally lost touch with reality
Be interesting to see Twitter and Amazon stocks tomorrow.
(Are we allowed to specifically name political figures?)
However, I don't worry at all. It is against my faith. I trust God. It has worked fine for me. God guiding me along, opening doors and providing opportunity to provide for myself.
 
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This article, courtesy of ABC Australia, the publicly owned broadcaster, is a sobering assessment of the current political situation in the USA. The one factor left out of the analysis (hardly surprising) is God. Unfortunately, God is increasingly left out of American society. So no one should be surprised at the current state of affairs in the US.

The problem at the heart of this week's crisis goes deeper than Trump

Is the article factual? Are the conclusions correct? I don't agree with everything stated in the article, but the general theme is hard to argue against. Agree? Or not?
The article loses all attempts at credibility by blatantly ignoring Obama.
 
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The article loses all attempts at credibility by blatantly ignoring Obama.
"Joe Biden has an opportunity to deliver change to America but nothing he has said thus far gives us any confidence he can reverse 40 years of drift, despondency and disillusion."
I believe that Mr Obama was one president during that 40 year period.
 
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"Joe Biden has an opportunity to deliver change to America but nothing he has said thus far gives us any confidence he can reverse 40 years of drift, despondency and disillusion."
I believe that Mr Obama was one president during that 40 year period.
It calls out the presidents surrounding Obama specifically naming specific crimes yet curiously omits him? Strange that.
 
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It calls out the presidents surrounding Obama specifically naming specific crimes yet curiously omits him? Strange that.
Perhaps the writer is afraid of BLM. You'd have to ask him.
 
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It is just that you asked if we agree with the article. I was disagreeing with a solid reason. Blessings!
Thank you for clarifying. I respect your point of view.
 
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This article, courtesy of ABC Australia, the publicly owned broadcaster, is a sobering assessment of the current political situation in the USA. The one factor left out of the analysis (hardly surprising) is God. Unfortunately, God is increasingly left out of American society. So no one should be surprised at the current state of affairs in the US.

The problem at the heart of this week's crisis goes deeper than Trump

Is the article factual? Are the conclusions correct? I don't agree with everything stated in the article, but the general theme is hard to argue against. Agree? Or not?

I think to some degree there is a bit of over-generalized truth to it. America has had its divisions, it’s also had its times of unity as well although they may not have always been completely universally supported but in many cases widely supported by the majority. I mean what can you expect from a society as diverse as America?
 
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I mean what can you expect from a society as diverse as America?
Perhaps a desire not to splinter and divide itself politically and morally, establishing little spinoff kingdoms within states that claim they are united as a nation of one?
 
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The slow rot: NAFTA, offshoring loss of manufacturing base
The Fast rot: Economic Collapse 2008

The slow rot: endless wars, balkanization, oligarchy, corruption
The Fast Rot: Government collapse 2020

The slow rot: The National Debt, stimulus instead of producing economy
The Fast rot: The Dollar collapses (Biden intends to print 15 trillion dollars. Japan has tricky means of monetizing that kind of debt but Japan currency is pegged to the dollar, I think)

Not certain when or if the slow rot will get to fast rot monetarily
I would say right now conditions on the ground are not ripe for revolution
However, depending on how and what happens over the next 2 to 4 years, conditions may deteriorate or other factors could arise (who predicted Covid 19?)
JMHO
Good observations.

I was thinking more along the lines as new countries being in America's seat while the declining America watches over the course of centuries.
 
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Perhaps a desire not to splinter and divide itself politically and morally, establishing little spinoff kingdoms within states that claim they are united as a nation of one?

Oh...all 320 million of them? Yeah good luck getting that to happen in any country in the world.
 
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