Could America be inching closer to civil war?

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I already proved it. His rioting friends were all white, anti-Semitic, white supremists. I asked---did you see one black person amongst the rioters?? You have not provided any answer to that. Those that have been arrested will have to face the consequences of their actions. I'm sure you are amongst the supporters of all this violence. Your comments are proof of that. Pure garbage and supporter of a monstrous man who committed crimes that he needs to be made accountable for----if they can prove he is mentally stable to be held for trial--they may have to just send him to a mental ward instead of a trial after they examine him! I have nothing to be embarrassed or ashamed of---I do not support violent takeover of a lawfully installed president--you do. That is something to be thoroughly ashamed and embarrassed about. Anyone who supports this mentally deranged conman has plenty to be ashamed of.
He was friends with Epstein and frequented his many child molesting parties--plenty of pictures of the two of them partying together. The lawsuits waiting for him include rape of then 13 year old girls--he has cheated on every one of his 3 wives, he brags of his grabbing of women by the crotch whether they like it or not because he feels he has the power to do so---he openly has boasted about the contractors he has cheated out of their money by just letting them take him to court and keeping them in the courts so long they just finally give up! I guess you approve of all this that he has openly boasted about---so NO! I am not ashamed of my dislike of this conman! You are the one that supports him, not I.

What does one black person not being there have to do with anything? That doesn't prove a thing. They were all white supremacists? They were all anti-semites?

You might want to look in the mirror. The left is FILLED with anti-semites and racists in this country.

You know all the leftists that were friends with Epstein?

We have condemned the violence in DC. What did the left do? Supported and excuses the violence all over the country this year. You are being so hypocritical and you have lost all credibility.
 
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The system was designed to provide some protections from tyrannies, but it was also passed on with the guidance of a need for virtues and protecting it.

Again, another very profound insight, GDL. And it reflects a statement from one of the Founding Fathers:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. "
---John Adams to the Massachusetts Militia, 11 October 1798
 
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It tragically seems that embracing whatever gets one elected and keeps them in place is the name of the politics game. Term limits and a check on benefits is likely a good call that should have been implemented some time ago.

On the one hand, if it's adherence to & support of good, then good. On the other hand, if adherence to & support of bad, then bad. If bad outweighs the good then bad, and vice-versa.

The system was designed to provide some protections from tyrannies, but it was also passed on with the guidance of a need for virtues and protecting it. IOW, its success was not a given and some of those who passed it on knew this. Others could see it was doomed from the start.

With all of this, we have to discuss what is good and what is bad - what is virtuous and what is not. And there we ultimately in the big numbers will not find much agreement anymore in the US and we will see where the divide is rooted. Some of our issues are deep and not to be resolved. This "some" is growing in number and, as another poster alluded, can reach a limit that will no longer be accepted. Are we seeing those limits approaching? Or is this another business as usual emotional transition from one party to [supposedly] the other?

We are reaching a point of total control by the left. And I don't just mean in government. The left wing media, the left wing tech companies. Freedom of speech is already being smashed to pieces. Unless it is left wing speech. Then it's okay. But if it's conservative it right wing it's not. We are headed into dark days indeed.

Remember when Chris Cuomo said "Show me where it says protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful?". Where was the leftist outrage over that?
 
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Shocking development.

And you think it's good when a large communication company is the arbiter of who speaks? Again, forget I asked.

There are and will be alternatives.

Well yes, but Apple and Google are preventing places like Parlor from having a platform also. So trying to move to alternatives are not biding well for the alternatives.
 
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Here's the thing. The left in this country is LYING AGAIN. Trump did not tell his followers to riot not did he encourage them to do so. His words specifically said for the people there to march "peacefully and patriotically" to have their "voices" heard.

At NO TIME did Trump invite or incite the violence. If you believe he did then you better go after a LOT of people who apparently have invited the violence of the left this year.
 
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Again, another very profound insight, GDL. And it reflects a statement from one of the Founding Fathers:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. "
---John Adams to the Massachusetts Militia, 11 October 1798

I was thinking of that exact quote. It just goes to show once again how wise our founders were. And how far we have moved away from that.
 
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What does one black person not being there have to do with anything? That doesn't prove a thing. They were all white supremacists? They were all anti-semites?

You might want to look in the mirror. The left is FILLED with anti-semites and racists in this country.

You know all the leftists that were friends with Epstein?

We have condemned the violence in DC. What did the left do? Supported and excuses the violence all over the country this year. You are being so hypocritical and you have lost all credibility.

Shocking development.

And you think it's good when a large communication company is the arbiter of who speaks? Again, forget I asked.

There are and will be alternatives.


OFF OF POLITICS TILL AFTER TOMORROW NIGHT.
 
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Well yes, but Apple and Google are preventing places like Parlor from having a platform also. So trying to move to alternatives are not biding well for the alternatives.

Time changes things. What prevails in the long run will be interesting.
 
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