Are there sincere seekers in hell?

[Kenny'sID]

Is it possible the op may be sincere and your words could help them if you do answer?

Or, judging from the posts, it's more likely its just as I say it is with the op. Its fairly rare, but one can only go so far with some people, and it makes no sense to continue.

 

[Loversofjesus_2018]

I do not need help. I need good evidence to believe. That is all I am asking for.

Sorry I should have phrased that show you the evidence instead. Hopefully someone is willing to do this for you

 

[Loversofjesus_2018]

Or, judging from the posts, it's more likely its just as I say it is with the op. Its fairly rare, but one can only go so far with some people, and it makes no sense to continue.

Yeah abs I don’t know your history with the op so maybe you have discussed before in that case I understand. But from all the posts I’ve read in this specific post no one has answered the question of what evidence worked for them. I guess I was just hoping it would be productive somehow that’s all.

 

[Lukaris]

Sometimes I wonder what absolute proof can be given on matters of life beyond death? I believe the Gospel is a proven truth and though I am unintelligent, I doubt I could convince many if I was intelligent ( I would probably do better).

On a secular level, I believe the moral teachings of the Gospel are unmatched ( I cannot convince everyone of this though). Christ’s commandments ( for ex. Romans 13:8-10, Matthew 6:2-3) can easily be adopted by secularists or other religions probably but not everyone will be convinced. At a basic level, I will try to persuade another person re this but I do not want to be malicious about it ( then I am guilty of hypocrisy & worse).

While the moral teachings of the Gospel are indispensable ( Acts of the Apostles 26:20, James 2:17-20, Ephesians 2:8-10 etc.). It is the kingdom of God, the Lord wants to be preached. Colossians 1 is a little long but it is actually a great summary of salvation and our earthly commitment to it.

Whether I convince another person or not, the important thing for both parties to be humane observe the golden rule ( Matthew 7:12, Matthew 7:1-12). To tell another person that the door is always open as long as we live, not assume I got it in the bag & you do not, but still teach that there is a judgment ( see John 5:22-30).

 

[Rodan6]

Are there sincere seekers that would believe if they had convincing evidence for the Christian god? My thought is that God says:

First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time. For this I was appointed a preacher and an apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth. 1 Tim 2:1-7 ESV.

and:

“Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. “Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. Mat 7:7-12 NIV

If these are true, why would God allow a person to not believe if they would believe if they just had convincing evidence and are asking for that evidence? I was one of those people when I was questioning my faith. Why did God not give me or many others the evidence they required to believe. All I was looking for was that evidence and I would have stayed a Christian. Why did God not provide it if the above verses are true?

Terrific, thoughtful question! I would answer this way. It is better to be a seeker, lacking in faith, but passionately seeking the truth--than to be a "believer" that fails to seek truth. The gates of heaven are wide open to the honest doubter. One who seeks truth (wherever they can find it) already proceeds as God has intended. A fragment of the Father dwells within each of us, drawing us to Him through this longing. The seeker of truth is a soul in motion, destined to find every answer in time. So many people profess faith, but have stalled in their progress because they believe they have found their answers in a book written by men.
Trust in this desire to know and understand that this thirst is spirit led within you. When I was young, I feared that I would never find the "evidence" that you seek. But the apparent futility of the quest did not suppress the craving to know that I felt inside. For me, my big breakthrough came when I made the decision to not be concerned only with evidence that I could show to others. Once I became willing to evaluate evidence for myself, I was rewarded.
"Seek and you will find" is a powerful law in our universe. Be patient, but more importantly be persistent in your search.
May God bless you in your journey!

 

[Clizby WampusCat]

Terrific, thoughtful question! I would answer this way. It is better to be a seeker, lacking in faith, but passionately seeking the truth--than to be a "believer" that fails to seek truth. The gates of heaven are wide open to the honest doubter. One who seeks truth (wherever they can find it) already proceeds as God has intended. A fragment of the Father dwells within each of us, drawing us to Him through this longing. The seeker of truth is a soul in motion, destined to find every answer in time. So many people profess faith, but have stalled in their progress because they believe they have found their answers in a book written by men.
Trust in this desire to know and understand that this thirst is spirit led within you. When I was young, I feared that I would never find the "evidence" that you seek. But the apparent futility of the quest did not suppress the craving to know that I felt inside. For me, my big breakthrough came when I made the decision to not be concerned only with evidence that I could show to others. Once I became willing to evaluate evidence for myself, I was rewarded.
"Seek and you will find" is a powerful law in our universe. Be patient, but more importantly be persistent in your search.
May God bless you in your journey!

The reason I am an atheist is because I started to evaluate evidence of myself and studied how to properly of that. The rest of the post is assertion without evidence.

 

[Rodan6]

The reason I am an atheist is because I started to evaluate evidence of myself and studied how to properly of that. The rest of the post is assertion without evidence.

You are either a "seeker" or you are not. One who searches openly for the truth-regardless of where that truth is found, is a "seeker of truth".

God is the absolute of love and logic. If you seek the truth, you seek Him. It does not matter if you acknowledge Him, only that one engages in the pursuit. The danger to the soul comes in the denial or rejection of truth when ultimately confronted by it. The true seeker does not fear truth, but instead relishes every new discovery.