Is smoking marijuana a sin?

[parousia70]

You cant use marijuana without getting high and altering your state of consciousness. Unlike moderate alcohol consumption.

That is plainly false.
CBD causes ZERO alteration in Consciousness, even at high doses, and THC can be microdosed to combat appetite suppression without altering consciousness and getting you "high".

My 85 Yr old Mother has been doing Both Since she broke her pelvis last year, and completely lost her appetite and almost died because of it..
Marijuana saved her life. She would not be here today if it weren't for CBD/THC.
She has been using it daily for over a year now and She has NEVER been "High". Not even once.

 

[GraceBro]

Opinions?. I''m asking for a friend. Thank you

If you felt the need to ask, I say you have your answer. Whatever is not of faith is sin. If someone is dependent on it rather than the indwelling Holy Spirit, it is a sin. However, be encouraged that it is forgiven by God and is not separating the user from Him.

 

[GirdYourLoins]

As an ex-smoker of tobacco and marijuana I can say its certainly bad for you. I saw behaviour in some friends that led me to believe there is a link between its use and mental illness. I particular I saw what had been minor issues some people had develop into major issues. This is something that has since been proven in medial studies where I have read that it is seen as a catalyst that can magnify underlying conditions that would otherwise not be an issue. In particular schizophrenia has been diagnosed in people as a direct result of cannabis use. I witnessed people show signs of psychosis and one friend changed significantly, later being diagnosed bi-polar which I believe is linked to its use.

Its also woth pointing out that it is not addictive as such, but it is habit forming and very strongly so. I had one spell when I realised one day I had smoked some every day for at least 3 years.

 

[parousia70]

Whatever is not of faith is sin. If someone is dependent on it rather than the indwelling Holy Spirit, it is a sin. However, be encouraged that it is forgiven by God and is not separating the user from Him.

So... Since Kidney Dialysis is not of faith, and people who are on it, are dependent on it, rather than the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, to treat their Kidney failure, then Dialysis is a Sin.

Sounds Legit.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Where does Scripture say Jesus drank wine? I recall that the Pharisees, Jesus's enemies, called him a "winebibber," but I don't think their accusation ought to be taken seriously. Apart from the slander of the Pharisees, I can't think of any place that says explicitly that Jesus drank wine.

“And He said to them, "I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer; for I say to you, I shall never again eat it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God." And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, "Take this and share it among yourselves; for I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine from now on until the kingdom of God comes."”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭22:15-18‬ ‭NASB

 

[BNR32FAN]

Where does Scripture say Jesus drank wine? I recall that the Pharisees, Jesus's enemies, called him a "winebibber," but I don't think their accusation ought to be taken seriously. Apart from the slander of the Pharisees, I can't think of any place that says explicitly that Jesus drank wine.



Yes. Drunkenness is forbidden in Scripture. And, yes, drinking wine without getting drunk seems to be permissible. But, then, isn't the simplest, best way to avoid getting drunk just never to drink alcohol? Yes. Why run a risk of drunkenness, however slight, when it is utterly unnecessary to do so?

Why is it only alcohol that the Bible expressly addresses in its various prohibitions of evil things and not other foodstuffs such as sugar, or fried foods, or coffee? Because the power of alcohol to cause harm and its common association with - and facilitation of - wickedness far exceeds anything a bucket of fried chicken, or a chocolate cake, or a venti latte from Starbucks could produce.

Proverbs 20:1
1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.

“He causes the grass to grow for the cattle, And vegetation for the labor of man, So that he may bring forth food from the earth, And wine which makes man's heart glad, So that he may make his face glisten with oil, And food which sustains man's heart. The trees of the LORD drink their fill, The cedars of Lebanon which He planted,”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭104:14-16‬ ‭NASB

 

[Aussie Pete]

Your cherry picking. Did he say to be in subjection to the governing authorities or not? That being said then if we don’t want to be in subjection to the governing authorities then we need to move to another location.

You are right. The nature of man is rebellious. Being subject to the human authorities is one of God's ways to rein in rebellion. And where do you draw the line? Schools? Adults? Children are already rebellious and where I live, some are just career criminals waiting to mature. Their parents have abdicated all responsibility for their upbringing. In other cities in Australia, kids are already embarking on teeny bopper crime waves. Little is done because they are too young, according to the bleeding hearts who blame everyone but the kids.

Paul spoke of governing authorities that were harsh and punished severely. Peter said much the same thing. They were both murdered by Roman authorities. Only when the law directly contradicts God's word are we permitted to disobey.

 

[Aussie Pete]

What good thing can a cheeseburger do for you that God cannot? Does a cheeseburger help take you deeper into God? Does a cheeseburger make you more like Christ? How does eating a cheeseburger aid you in being an ambassador for Jesus to a lost and dying world? You could replace the word cheeseburger with just about anything, like for example a green shirt or a whistle or a bean bag chair. Does any of this make these things sinful?

A cheeseburger is not going to make you psychotic. Marijuana can. It's not worth the risk. I know enough dope smokers to know what I'm talking about. There is a reason why it's called dope.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Opinions?. I''m asking for a friend. Thank you

Sure you are.

 

[parousia70]

A cheeseburger is not going to make you psychotic.

All I had to do was search Google for "man attacks at drive thru" to prove this statement wrong.

 

[Kenny'sID]

That is plainly false.
CBD causes ZERO alteration in Consciousness, even at high doses, and THC can be microdosed to combat appetite suppression without altering consciousness and getting you "high".

You're answering to a post that stated:

You cant use marijuana without getting high and altering your state of consciousness.

Yet your reply saying they are wrong is not about marijuana, its about it's derivatives, so your post only makes you seem despsrate, as in, you have the need to be dishonest in order to win your argument.

 

[Saint JOHN]

1Co 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

1Co 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which [temple] ye are.


think as though you go into a man made church building , would you smoke or take a six pack etc into it ! most out of respect for the place would not! (so....your body)

(A church is actually the people not a building)

and you know you have got the Holy Spirit as Jesus said to warn his disciples against counterfeits...(which crucified him)

mark16v16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

when you do it Gods way these signs are the effect of receiving the Holy Spirit...

they follow TRUE believers not those who do there own way..!

 

[Jamdoc]

Opinions?. I''m asking for a friend. Thank you

Depends on a lot of factors.
is it illegal where you live? If so, yes it's sin.
Why do they want to use it? For medicine? Or to get high? If to get high, then it is sin (we're commanded to be sober minded).
If medical, it depends on the condition you are using it to treat, is it at the advice of a doctor?
Are you at least seeking a less damaging way to use it than smoking? (myself I vaporize flower, I don't use the cartridges with the additives that have caused illness in some people with their thickening agents, it is less harmful than smoking and I can control the dose better than using orally).
Does the harm than using it outweigh the harm of not treating the disease with it? (in my case the joint damage caused by letting my use of it lapse too long is worse on my body than using it)

You need to consider even if it is legal 1 Corinthians 10:23

23 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.

For me, it is lawful, my doctor gives me the recommendation, and my state has laws for medical.
It is for me edifying and expedient, as the conditions I use it to treat, are worse than using the drug, if left untreated. It improves quality of life, and I am able to with selecting strains and use method, moderate my use of it so that I treat the conditions and alleviate inflammation, while mitigating the mind altering effects.
I also don't use it every day or even every other day, twice a week usually, spread out through the week, so I don't feel under it's power or addicted.
It requires judgement, and prayer, and honestly, thanksgiving, because He gave the plant to us.

 

[Jamdoc]

You're answering to a post thst stated:

You cant use marijuana without getting high and altering your state of consciousness.

Yet your reply saying they are wrong is not about marijuana, its about it's derivatives, so your post only makes you seem despsrate, as in, you have the need to be dishonest in order to win your argument.

CBD is not a derivative. It's a chemical naturally found in the plant.
I believe that the Cannabis that God designed contained moderate amounts of THC and higher amounts of CBD. Man perverted it to express more THC and less CBD (as CBD counteracts the mind altering effects of THC)

 

[coffee4u]

Are Mc Donald french fries a sin? How about a BLT? In moderation these are not effectively harmful to your body unless you use it excessively.

No doctor in any place would say "Smoking in moderation is fine"
A Macca's french fry may be moreish but it is not an addictive substance and as far as I know does not cause lung cancer.

 

[aiki]

It was the very last thing Jesus did before dying on the cross:

JOHN 19:28-30 28 After this, Jesus, knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the Scripture might be fulfilled, said, “I thirst!” 29 Now a vessel full of sour wine was sitting there; and they filled a sponge with sour wine, put it on hyssop, and put it to His mouth. 30 So when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And bowing His head, He delivered up His spirit.

So, Jesus didn't ask for "sour wine," also known as vinegar, or for any wine, in fact, but had it chosen for him by one of the guards at his crucifixion, given to Jesus on sponge, just before he died. And this is supposed to somehow justify drinking wine "because Jesus did"? Really? Wow. Grasp at straws much?

 

[Kenny'sID]

CBD is not a derivative. It's a chemical naturally found in the plant.

Do you know what a derivitive is? It is derived from the plant, and it is not marijuana.

 

[coffee4u]

Would consuming products with sugar in them be a sin as well since sugar is addictive according to certain studies?

Sugar is certainly bad for you if over consumed but I don't believe the 'addiction' is even close to that of a real addiction to substances like nicotine and marijuana. Neither is it illegal.
Smoking is a disgusting habit that directly effects those nearby. I have a great sensitivity to smoke, even if a customer comes to my door who has recently smoked is enough for my airways to start closing down making me gasp for air. Sound pleasant? No it isn't.

 

[Aussie Pete]

All I had to do was search Google for "man attacks at drive thru" to prove this statement wrong.

"Man attacks another man for absolutely no reason". Happens often in Australia. It's so prevalent that it is a separate criminal offence from assault. Now if 90% of cheeseburger eaters attacked someone after eating one, you'd have a case. You do not.

 

[aiki]

“And He said to them, "I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer; for I say to you, I shall never again eat it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God." And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, "Take this and share it among yourselves; for I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine from now on until the kingdom of God comes."”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭22:15-18‬ ‭NASB

So, where does this passage indicate Jesus drank some wine? He gave some to his disciples and then declared his abstinence from it. More importantly, how does this passage serve as a biblical anchor, except of the very weakest sort, for drinking wine?

Bizarrely, this passage serves to defeat the one Parousia offered where Jesus is given "sour wine" (aka vinegar) just before he died. Whatever was passed to Jesus on the sponge, if it was wine, given his declaration to his disciples in the above passage, he did not take it willingly.

And then, of course, there is Matthew's crucifixion account which offers some light on this matter:

Matthew 27:33-34
33 And when they were come unto a place called Golgotha, that is to say, a place of a skull,
34 They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink.

Anyway, the scriptural support for drinking wine because "Jesus did it" is incredibly weak - especially set against explicit and strong scriptural warning against alcohol:

Proverbs 20:1
1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.

Proverbs 23:31-32
31 Do not look on the wine when it is red, When it sparkles in the cup, When it goes down smoothly;
32 At the last it bites like a serpent And stings like a viper.