I’ll make I simple summary statement. If God chooses someone to be saved, His choice isn’t what saves them.
That is just a very confused statement. I am totally surprised that you aren't seeing it.
They are still in need of regeneration, justification, sanctification, etc.
But...all of these are mere by products or side effects of the election.
The point remains that IF IF IF election is to salvation, then everything else is a by product/side effect of election.
Denying this is futile.
There are things that need to happen in order for them to be saved.
Doesn't matter. The FACT that the person was chosen to be saved, that THAT unconditionally, PROVES that everything else; regeneration, justification, sanctification, and salvation itself, is mere by product/side effects of the election.
Election is just another way of saying that God chooses.
Here's the huge problem that you aren't seeing.
Calvinism claims that election is unconditional. That means NO conditions.
Yet, the Bible clearly states that salvation is by grace, THROUGH FAITH. So faith IS a condition.
How come you don't see this?
So, basically, Calvinists are talking out of both sides of their mouths. And all the while, contradicting themselves.
YOU have said that (unconditional) election is to salvation, and that we are saved by grace through faith. So you are contradicting yourself.
The fact of reality is that God's election IS IS IS unconditional. But...it's NOT NOT NOT to salvation.
God's election is to service. In EVERY case. If salvation was by election, there would be at least one clear verse, but no Calvinist ever has found any such verse.
I can prove my claim from Scripture. I have studied the Greek word for election in the noun, verb, and adjective forms. All of them.
What I found was that in EVERY case, none of the verses said or even suggested that the election was to salvation.
In the OT, the Messiah was seen as the "suffering SERVANT". And Isaiah described the Messiah as the Chosen One several times. Jesus was chosen for service.
In the OT the Jewish people were God's chosen people. Were they chosen to salvation? No, they were chosen for service; to preserve the Word of God, and His commandments, of which they failed over and over.
Angels are described as "elect" in 1 Tim 5:23. The angel who revealed things to John in the 3rd heaven wouldn't let John bow before him, and he told John that he was a "fellow servant with him (John)" in Rev 19:10 and 22:9.
Heb 1:14 says it all about elect angels: Are not all angels ministering spirits
sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?
Even Paul's election on the road to Damascus was for service. Consider Acts 9:15 - But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go!
This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel.
The 12 disciples were also chosen for service:
John 6:70,71
70 Then Jesus replied, “
Have I not chosen you, the TwelveH? Yet one of you is a devil!”
71 (He meant Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot, who, though one of the Twelve,
was later to betray him.)
So, there you have it. Election IS unconditional, in that EVERY person chosen, is chosen for service, including Judas.
Eph 1:4 says, For he chose us (
who believe) in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight.
You may balk at the parenthesis, but that is exactly how "us" is defined in 1:19a - and his incomparably great power for
us who believe.
There is no reason to argue that the "us" in v.4 is somehow a different group than the "us" in v.19.
So, Eph 1:4 states that EVERY believer is chosen, which is FOR service.