Joel Osteen is definitely out of line and so is Paula White.
It’s good to know what have the Holy Spirit to discern but sometimes we must let some people be, even after placing our points and our beliefs to them.
The Bible explains for us to live at peace with all men if possible, and that can be possible by the Holy Spirit, and only God can lead a person to the truth, not saying the people you listened have a mental problem, but mental factors of human beings must be accounted for in why some may be how they are because we have people in the faith who are autistic.
or who preach in abstract ways, even putting on shows decieveing their audiences and cults.
Devin.
Fill in the blanks with 33,000 other names also.
While hundreds, or even maybe thousands of people realize that very popular ones are out of line (and worse),
there still remains hundreds of thousands of people supporting those ones who are out of line (and worse).
That is the way of the world we live in - those who are out of line are often the most popular ones. Jesus never said the world chooses what is good, nor what is right, nor has any love for truth.
Hope my post above helps Aaron.
Well I don't see how this is controversial theology, except you are giving people who will be posting the ability to take things into "interesting" directions.
Pavel
Hey brother, being here for several months everyone here at controversial theology, has become my home of operations when it comes to not exactly challenging others, but rather inducing thoughts of different views for people to see, and glory to God for all those who have learned from us all sharing in between and amongst ourselves.
Today being thanksgiving I needed to give at least the will of God for us in Christ Jesus, for all to bear.
Who do you think today are the ones who are out of line, undisciplined, unruly and disorderly ? i.e. who is not walking in truth, (even if , or even though, in power)
Thus,
as always,
should you decide to accept it,
...
(the truth),
and take a stand for the truth,
you will be hated, rejected, and kicked out of the groups you were in.
Aaron, this means us all. The verse speaking of the wanting, you can do in a gentle way towards people, though it’s not to make demands and or pull out a gun and put it to someone’s head to make them change, at least that not what I means to me.
You can always share experiences that never went in your favor though that doesn’t mean a person is ready to change, change does come from God, and Gods timing is not out timing.
These verses can be taken out of context and used to exert control in degrees that was never intended. The undercurrent of 1 Thessalonians 5 is alertness. Christ referenced the
principle in the Parable of Ten Virgins. It is not a license to make demands, express authority, or misuse grace.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Yours in His Service,
~bella
Bella
Your thanksgiving brawl post was funny. Lol, you are absolutely right about what you are saying and hopefully my explanation does the verse justice for the most part.
God bless dear friends and have a wonderful day!! May the peace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with you, and the grace of God our Father.