Progressives furious over Supreme Court Justice Alito comments

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Christ's church does not accept sin "as is." It does not anchor the heathen down to remain as they are. It does not serve to prevent change, to hamper improvement and to leave the believer no better than when he was an unbeliever.
. So I get a no true Scotsman argument when I tell you my church doesn’t accept a dogma that yours does . Whatever!
 
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If your religious freedom involves abusing people who aren’t like you, then it’s not freedom you’re describing, it’s misusing religion to oppress others
Better to be a slave to God than a slave to sin.
Romans 6:20-23
when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. Therefore what benefit were you then deriving from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the outcome of those things is death. But now having been freed from sin and enslaved to God, you derive your benefit, resulting in sanctification, and the outcome, eternal life. For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 
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“For many today, religious liberty is not a cherished freedom. It’s often just an excuse for bigotry and can’t be tolerated, even when there is no evidence that anybody has been harmed,” Alito said during a virtual event with the Federalist Society’s National Lawyers Convention, a conservative legal network. “The question we face is whether our society will be inclusive enough to tolerate people with unpopular religious beliefs.”

“Homophobic rhetoric isn’t a matter of free speech. It’s a matter of hate speech,” Rep. Jimmy Gomez, D-Calif., said on Twitter Friday. “These are stunning, harmful words from Justice Alito.”


No, Mr. Gomez, it is not 'hate speech' (whatever the heck that is). It is free RELIGIOUS speech; but maybe he believes that the Bible is a book of 'hate speech'? Little by little the far left wing of the democratic party chips away at our religious freedoms. How long do we stand by and say/do nothing about it?.....just my 2 cents worth.....
What happened to "love one another"? We should really reflect on what our Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth did when He walked the earth. He came for the sinner! He ate and drank with sinners! He healed sinners and brought sinners into His fold. HE DIED ON THE CROSS FOR SINNERS! And we can't manage to bake a cake for a sinner? Let us reason. Let us go back to our first love. Blessings.
 
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Freedom of speech is good. You will be wanting to know who are your friends and who are your foes and also you want to see if you can help people that you think need help.

it would have been me falling in the pit if I didn't see all those other people's do it before me.

When there is no freedom of speech there is no progressive dialogue. I can ignore hateful people but I don't need other people to decide for myself what I need to ignore.
 
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. Oppressing others isn’t freedom for them . Religious freedom in the USA at least , has meant that that isn’t permissible( well until fairly recently that did mean you could oppress women ,POC , and gays) . The scary thing is that some regressive religious people want to bring all of those back .

No women were not oppressed. This is a myth the leftist throw out
 
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Christians aren’t being abused in the USA . F I was going say any group was getting mistreated over religion in the USA Id say Muslims , or occasionally atheists and Jews. In other countries where Christians are minorities, I’d have to agree with you about them being abused.

Churches and Christian statues are being vandalized daily in the USA. Is this a sign of hatred or not ?
 
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No women were not oppressed. This is a myth the leftist throw out
I’m a woman in my mid 60s . If you think I don’t know about female oppression think again . I was the one being subjected to it. A lot of it was due to religious based customs including toxic patriarchy
 
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I’m a woman in my mid 60s . If you think I don’t know about female oppression think again . I was the one being subjected to it. A lot of it was due to religious based customs including toxic patriarchy

I'm a 69 year old man and never saw women oppressed as you allege

Were some women abused by their husbands ? Of course, but most were not and those who were, it was against the law.

Until tampons and birth control were invented(by men BTW) life was very different for women and men.
 
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Churches and Christian statues are being vandalized daily in the USA. Is this a sign of hatred or not ?
. Maybe if SOME Christians weren’t so hateful against religious minorities, women , ethnic and racial minorities and/or non binaries this wouldn’t happen.
 
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. Maybe if SOME Christians weren’t so hateful against religious minorities, women , ethnic and racial minorities and/or non binaries this wouldn’t happen.

So you justify this act rather than speak out against it ?

Most Christians are not hateful toward others as you alledge.

It seems that you like to paint with a broad brush of hatred yourself.
 
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Compassionate people tend to love the other. Conservative people tend to love their family.

What a humble thing to judge first the church rather than others. God said that he also does such.
 
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I'm a 69 year old man and never saw women oppressed as you allege

Were some women abused by their husbands ? Of course, but most were not and those who were, it was against the law.

Until tampons and birth control were invented(by men BTW) life was very different for women and men.
of course you don’t see it. Men didn’t have to have their lives circumscribed by what their spouses did financially. But married women did in the USA until 1967 and the Fair credit acts were passed . Even churches would tell women to love, honor and obey until women started refusing to do so because it meant agreeing before God to being treated as if they were children or that they were mentally slow. Women used to be told to hide their intelligence otherwise men wouldn’t like you . Ask Hillary Clinton about that . Etc etc etc
 
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of course you don’t see it. Men didn’t have to have their lives circumscribed by what their spouses did financially. But married women did in the USA until 1967 and the Fair credit acts were passed . Even churches would tell women to love, honor and obey until women started refusing to do so because it meant agreeing before God to being treated as if they were children or that they were mentally slow. Women used to be told to hide their intelligence otherwise men wouldn’t like you . Ask Hillary Clinton about that . Etc etc etc

My grandmother, mother, aunts and female cousins were not treated like children.

My wife and daughter certainly aren't treated like children.

If anything, the women in men's lives generally help them to grow up. I know my wife raised me well. :D
 
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. Maybe if SOME Christians weren’t so hateful against religious minorities, women , ethnic and racial minorities and/or non binaries this wouldn’t happen.
Of course it would happen. The world hates Christians. It has to hate them. The political climate today has just given it the opportunity to express that hatred that it has always had. If the world doesn't hate you, you're doing something wrong.
 
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If your religious freedom involves abusing people who aren’t like you,
You mean like stating that God disapproves of their sin (it is after all a sin) and they are rejecting God's word and are missing the opportunity of heaven?.....that kind of abuse?
 
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If women were oppressed as feminist claim, why did men invent things to make women's lives easier ?

Clothes washers and driers, appliances for the kitchen, all to make women's lives easier. If men were out to oppress women, they would've concentrated in making men's lives easier, and forget about women.

Fact is, it wasn't that long ago before tampons and birth control pills were invented, that women going out into the work force was very difficult on families. Domestic chores were difficult and it took a wife and husband to get things done. Back then men generally did the jobs that were dangerous, fought wars and maintained the properties around the houses women lived in.

Today because of inventions mostly created my men, women can work outside of the home, but having children is still an obstacle for women.

Society has transformed into a two income society and being single is probably the hardest life to live economically. Few can afford to live on their own these days.

Unfortunately, most of the developed world is in population decline because of the fact that couples aren't pro-life. Having children is off the map for many young couples and having just one child is enough. The results are showing up in Europe as there are small towns and villages, that would go extinct if the country didn't recruit immigrants to live in them.
 
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Because of how humans evolved...
when there is a lack of something they become more focused with trying to find that something. For instance if there's a lot of berries and we get most of them we will have to try harder to find the remaining berries that might be more hidden.

In America this can be applied to both racism and how Christians are treated.

330 + million Americans, so you could cherry-pick the absolute worst and highly uncommon things and broadcast them to millions and they will seem as if they are common.
 
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. Oppressing others isn’t freedom for them . Religious freedom in the USA at least , has meant that that isn’t permissible( well until fairly recently that did mean you could oppress women ,POC , and gays) . The scary thing is that some regressive religious people want to bring all of those back .
So saying that a man laying with another man (like God did) and must be put to death is hate speech?
 
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The scary thing is that some regressive religious people want to bring all of those back .
What is even more scary is that some 'progressive' religious people want to ignore God's word and accept such behavior into the presence of God.....and demand that the rest of us do the same or be labeled with 'hate speech'.
 
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Christ's church does not accept sin "as is." It does not anchor the heathen down to remain as they are. It does not serve to prevent change, to hamper improvement and to leave the believer no better than when he was an unbeliever.
So why is it always homosexuality that gets called out? What about adultery and all lewd behavior? What about lies, misrepresentations and slander? What about mistreatment of strangers, the poor and the vulnerable.? What about blatant racism? Hate speech extends to all forms of dehumanization and exploitation.
 
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