Police use pepper-spray on protesters — including children — marching to Alamance polls

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There's nothing extreme about trying to clear people off the street. I'm not a huge defender of cops but this was basic stuff, you have a crowd of 200 blocking traffic. Pepper spray is the easiest way to disburse a crowd that refuses to leave. The article uses children as props, as though their illegal activity shouldn't be dealt with because children might be present. Ridiculous.
Except most of the people had already cleared the street. If the cops had just waited this probably would have taken care of itself.
 
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If you read the OP you know this was to encourage people to vote.
So how is violating police instructions and blocking/impeding travel while saying "the streets are ours" encouraging people to vote?
 
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You must have read a different article than what's on the OP. I don't recall looting or killing happening... your post is just hyperbole. In the real world there are more than the 2 options you present plus your scenerio you describe doesn't fit with what actually happened. Do you want me to say that if looting and killing where happening and children were in the protest than pepper spray is warrented.... Sure and while we're at it lets say Hitler and a child version of Hitler were both in the protest at the same time so of course you would be obligated spray them.
The point is that the police cannot be held responsible for the stupidity of a parent. Especially when they are carrying out the duties necessary to maintain law and order. Otherwise you can only expect more children at protests acting as human shields.
 
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A response from the third-grade playground:

Not real clear on how a discussion goes huh?

This:

"Maybe that's a two way street in this situation?"

Is not what you said. Nor was it your intent.

You employed the tired and juvenile tactic of stealing someone else's words, changing one or two, and then attempting to pass the result off as an original thought.

If your intent was to ask "maybe that's a two way street in this situation" then that is what you could have and should have said. It truly would not have been that hard. But then you wouldn't have been able to employ the Johnny Bravo defense.

Also:

Since, as I understood it, the post I was responding to's point...

The post did not make a point. NerdGirl123 made a point in the post she created.

I used someone else's own words...

Because you truly struggle to come up with your own.
 
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Evidence of what? That ISIS would use women and children as human shields to carry out their attacks for propaganda opportunities?
No, evidence that the children here were specifically brought to serve as human shields to carry out attacks for propaganda purposes.
 
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Is not what you said. Nor was it your intent.
uhmm...actually that would be why I said:
I take the above back, THIS part (with a slight tweak) would be one of the greatest ironic posts I've seen in a while, here it is with the tweak
I then posted the same quote with the changes I made:
When you're regularly being screamed at, threatened, harassed, attacked, even murdered, by police, there is no other reasonable reaction but to become more wary and suspicious of the police.
being careful to post the changes I made in red, so as to show I changed some words from the original post.

You employed the tired and juvenile tactic of stealing someone else's words, changing one or two, and then attempting to pass the result off as an original thought.
No, because I pointed out any time I changed something from the original post. I'm sorry you didn't understand what I was doing, but it's actually pretty standard way of pointing out something that may have escaped the attention of the original poster.

If your intent was to ask "maybe that's a two way street in this situation" then that is what you could have and should have said.
uhmmm...if you re-read my post that's what I did. Sorry you misunderstood what happened.

It truly would not have been that hard.
Don't worry, apparently it was only hard for one person in the thread to understand. And I think that's been explained now.

But then you wouldn't have been able to employ the Johnny Bravo defense.
I'm sorry, I've been through this thread now a couple of times and I can't seem to find any poster named "Johnny Bravo" in it. Did you post that in the wrong thread? I know that can happen when people are posting in multiple threads.

Also: The post did make a point. NerdGirl123 made a point in the post she created.
Agreed, I merely pointed out that her point was actually a two way street, not one way.

Because you truly struggle to come up with your own.
Well, not in this case, it was pretty obvious her point could just as easily be applied to the other side of the argument.
tulc(hopes that clears up all the things Sistrin didn't seem to understand about this post)
 
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Actually the majority of those present were already on the sidewalk.
Lol. Please don't gaslight me. Look at the video. You would be hard pressed to even see a sidewalk. Heck you can hardly see the street with so many people on it.
 
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No, evidence that the children here were specifically brought to serve as human shields to carry out attacks for propaganda purposes.
There is no evidence that the officers were spraying the kids with pepper spray either. But what are facts to the left?
 
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Lol. Please don't gaslight me. Look at the video. You would be hard pressed to even see a sidewalk. Heck you can hardly see the street with so many people on it.

i’m going by what was stated in one of the articles. You probably can’t see a sidewalk because so many are standing on it.
 
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There is no evidence that the officers were spraying the kids with pepper spray either. But what are facts to the left?
They sprayed pepper spray knowing that there were children there. Is blocking a road such a terrible thing that it warrants getting pepper spray? These cops are scum.
 
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The point is that the police cannot be held responsible for the stupidity of a parent. Especially when they are carrying out the duties necessary to maintain law and order. Otherwise you can only expect more children at protests acting as human shields.
They are not responsible for the acts of the crowd they are responsible for their acts upon the crowd. You seem to suggest there was no other options and the presence of children shouldn't change how they engage the crowd.
 
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Except that has nothing to do with what we are discussing. This is what people do when they have nothing to say. They introduced irrelevant material
I am sure you get that a lot. But you should know the difference between someone not having anything to say, vs not having anything worth saying to you. That is all I have left to say to you.
 
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I am sure you get that a lot. But you should know the difference between someone not having anything to say, vs not having anything worth saying to you. That is all I have left to say to you.
In other words you have no evidence that supports your claim, so we can dismiss what you said.
 
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Except according to the reports most of the crowd had already cleared the street. This could have been closer to few jaywalkers. In any event, as I have said, I am using an extreme example. I’m not making a direct comparison.
Your example is hyperbole. Why not ask what if Hitler was jay walking then would it be ok to pepper spray him? This offers no insight into the event regardless if the protestors are on the street or had moved off the street, a jay walker (even if Hitler) has nothing to do with the event in question and it's fruitless to compare the two.
 
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In other words you have no evidence that supports your claim, so we can dismiss what you said.
In other words, you are a waste of my time. Take your gaslight somewhere else. The evidence is in the video found in the OP article.
 
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