Police use pepper-spray on protesters — including children — marching to Alamance polls

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AHHH!...the old "I'm going to spray this stuff in the grass and if it just happens to hit you (because spray stuff tends to, you know, spray) it's not my fault. I was just trying to keep the grass from blocking traffic!" excuse. I haven't seen that one since this episode of the Simpsons:
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the police sprayed in their general direction
 
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This isn't new tactics. It's the same old cowardice adults hiding behind children. Read the article catefuly and not selectively. Its the same as the Bible when it says "itching ears", this seems to be no different.

Read what you want to see, I guess. Man, this world..... o_O
 
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How should the police handled the situation when some idiot of a parent brings their little girl to a protest knowing it could turn violent? Perhaps the police should have relocated the child to a safe environment (like the foster care system).
if all the protestors were children would pepper spray be warranted? How many children are an acceptable amount or did the Police find the golden ratio?
 
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I find that protesters who don't block roads tend not to get pepper sprayed.
So if you jaywalk, cops have the right to pepper spray you? After all, you’re breaking the law and blocking a street.
 
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It sounds to me like the real villain in this whole situation is poor parenting that thought it was a good idea to take their 5 year old daughter to a BLM protest. Unless police brutality is no longer a concern for the Black community and they now feel the police nolonger pose a threat to a 5 year old girl. This is on par with ANTIFA protesters bringing their kids to an anti-trump rally.
I know some parents who took their children to BLM protests in WV so they could see people protesting for their rights. Of course, all of our protests were peaceful. We never had any police do what these pigs did.
 
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Also, you cant just keep thinking in line with mainstream media. They will tell you "Police are bad, mmk?" And many people believe them. This is actually very scary because it means we have lost the ability to think critically, and soberly. We think a group of people is for the right thing, but they're standing up in vain for the wrong thing.
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probably not a fair comparison. if an unruly crowd (some with children) jaywalked then...
I see. It is OK when you do it, wrong when they do it.
 
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This is praiseworthy parenting. Teach the children not to resist police while they are young.
Don’t resist police? I guess the protestors just should have turned around and walked away on Bloody Sunday at Selma, never mind the fact that the cops were totally in the wrong. I would love to meet one of those cops someday, just so I could call him a pig to his face. And for the record, I’m a former ADA. I support the police except when they exceed their authority. When they do that they are pigs. I’ve know of cases that had to be thrown out because the cops exceeded their authority.
 
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It sounds to me like the real villain in this whole situation is poor parenting that thought it was a good idea to take their 5 year old daughter to a BLM protest. Unless police brutality is no longer a concern for the Black community and they now feel the police nolonger pose a threat to a 5 year old girl. This is on par with ANTIFA protesters bringing their kids to an anti-trump rally.
It really wouldnt surprise me if some of the parents deliberately took their kids to the front where the police were spraying the pepper spray to get the headline.
 
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if all the protestors were children would pepper spray be warranted? How many children are an acceptable amount or did the Police find the golden ratio?
Police officer: "But police chief, the protests are now turning into a violent riot! Stores are being looted! People are being killed!"

Police Chief: Just use the pepper spray to make them disperse."

Police officer: "But sir, they brought a child to the fight!"

Police Chief: "My Gawd! All there is left to do is take a knee in solidarity and defeat. It was an honor serving with you."
 
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I know some parents who took their children to BLM protests in WV so they could see people protesting for their rights. Of course, all of our protests were peaceful. We never had any police do what these pigs did.
Then it seems as though police brutality isn't as much of a problem as people are saying. What rights are being protested over?
 
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It really wouldnt surprise me if some of the parents deliberately took their kids to the front where the police were spraying the pepper spray to get the headline.
Ding ding ding! Like I said, ISIS tactics.
 
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How does marching under the BLM banner encourage anyone to vote? No adult American citizen is prevented from voting (except convicted felons in some states, which I disagree with). Nobody is stopping these people from voting. This was not about voting, it was about pushing the BLM agenda, hence all the BLM shirts, flags, and masks in the crowd. They would have you believe that if a young black person approaches the polls, they're going to be attacked or dissuaded somehow, which is absolute nonsense. This is creating an issue where there is no issue. You can encourage your young people to vote without illegally blocking the street and getting into a scrap with police.
 
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Police tell you to move, you move. And I would never take a small child to ANY political march or rally right now, no matter what party you're supporting. There's way too much tension and people are on edge and raring for fights.

"In a statement released Saturday evening, Graham police said Drumwright and the marchers hadn’t followed proper procedures for holding the event. The department said that it warned the group that it would not be allowed to close the road, said Daniel Sisk, a public information officer for the Graham police.

The department defended its use of pepper spraying, by saying, “[T]he assembly reached a level of conduct that led to the rally being deemed unsafe and unlawful by unified command.”'

The organizer claims this was a "non-partisan" event, but then follows it up with comments like these:

'“They should not be doing this to fellow Americans. Black lives matter,” he said in a video posted on Twitter. “All lives won’t matter until we stop this, and I mean it. I urge my Republican opponent Ted Budd to finally stand up to this white supremacist, stand up to these neo-Nazis, and stand for America, not those people. This is wrong. This is wrong. I’m just watching what’s happening right now and it’s wrong.”'

We all know that there's one party who favors throwing around these terms and allegations. This was not non-partisan at all.

Watching the video here, pepper spray wasn't deployed until AFTER people in the crowd 1) refused to follow police orders and 2) at least one man started physically tussling with an officer.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article246862187.html

Apparently, they were given several warnings over the span of five minutes to disperse, and ignored it.
Multiple marchers arrested, pepper sprayed in Graham at march for voting rights and justice

"Graham PD said that officers gave a five-minute warning on an order to disperse and then gave three subsequent warnings, which prompted them to use pepper spray when people did not disperse after the final warning."

"“Mr. Drumwright chose not to abide by the agreed upon rules. As a result, after violations of the permit, along with disorderly conduct by participants leading to arrests, the protest was deemed an unlawful assembly and participants were asked to leave. Mr. Drumwright and participants refused to leave,” a statement released by the Alamance County Sheriff’s Office said."


Shon Green one of the speakers at the march, wanted to empower young voters to cast their ballots.

"Empower"? What's stopping them from registering to vote, going to the poll, and voting?

Nothing.

"I was feeling the strength of my ancestors and letting me know you're fine. Like don't stand down, don't step down to this," Green said.

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Mr. Drumwright appears to be a self-named "pastor". I don't see anything on his website to indicate he's a properly educated or ordained pastor of anything. This reads more like the resume of a wannabe celebrity. https://www.gregdrumwright.com

Looks like some people are calling this for what it is. A "racial justice" march. As evidenced by all the Black Lives Matter shirts and masks.

So, let's call this what it is. A wannabe "pastor" gathering a bunch of impressionable, trusting black families together for a BLM-flavored rally with no intention of following the guidelines he agreed to when he obtained the activity permit, or following police orders on scene. Then cue the sob stories about children and old ladies vomiting from pepper spray. And of course, the cops are the meanies for doing their jobs. And probably white people. And Trump.
This is so sad to see. Its bad enough the system has been hard on many of these people but the media is exploiting them getting them in the street protesting. They're pumping so much anger and emotion into them like that woman screaming at one point thats its just a peaceful protest. I feel so bad for them, then you got BLM using them, manipulating them, and pumping anger into them as well (anger and fear i should say). The parents are so lost that they teach the kids to hate police and hate Trump

On the other side of the conflict, i feel really bad for cops too. Cops that work in rough cities respond to probably numerous domestic issues every day so they can be sworn at and spit on. There is definitely a problem with police brutality but you cant stereotype all cops, alot of them risk their lives to protect and serve. They get dangerous people and drugs off the streets, and fight human trafficking. A simple truth that has been lost in all of this is that regardless of race, things would be far worse for everyone if there was no cops
 
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This is so sad to see. Its bad enough the system has been hard on many of these people but the media is exploiting them getting them in the street protesting. They're pumping so much anger and emotion into them like that woman screaming at one point thats its just a peaceful protest. I feel so bad for them, then you got BLM using them, manipulating them, and pumping anger into them as well (anger and fear i should say). The parents are so lost that they teach the kids to hate police and hate Trump

On the other side of the conflict, i feel really bad for cops too. Cops that work in rough cities respond to probably numerous domestic issues every day so they can be sworn at and spit on. There is definitely a problem with police brutality but you cant stereotype all cops, alot of them risk their lives to protect and serve. They get dangerous people and drugs off the streets, and fight human trafficking. A simple truth that has been lost in all of this is that regardless of race, things would be far worse for everyone if there was no cops

Exactly.
This is nothing but a socio-political tactic. Most of these people are probably well-meaning. They're following their "leader", this guy who thinks he's some kind of local celebrity and obviously has an ego the size of the moon. They're all riled up with the belief that their young people are downtrodden and can't vote, for some undoubtedly vague and never-explained reason by their "pastor". Because it's simply not true. But hey, being a hero is more fun than speaking facts.

I really wish people who think that cops are all racist monsters, would volunteer to ride with the officers for a few days. When you're regularly being screamed at, threatened, harassed, attacked, even murdered, by one racial group, there is no other reasonable reaction but to become more wary and suspicious of that racial group. Their job is not to be socially appeasing, their job is to protect. Stop being violent and hateful, and they'll be able to lower their guard again. Just the way it works, people.

And if anyone thinks this isn't an issue, I will gladly direct you to some video clips of this particular racial group assaulting and even shooting and killing police officers over recent weeks, and then laughing about it.
 
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How does marching under the BLM banner encourage anyone to vote? No adult American citizen is prevented from voting (except convicted felons in some states, which I disagree with). Nobody is stopping these people from voting. This was not about voting, it was about pushing the BLM agenda, hence all the BLM shirts, flags, and masks in the crowd. They would have you believe that if a young black person approaches the polls, they're going to be attacked or dissuaded somehow, which is absolute nonsense. This is creating an issue where there is no issue. You can encourage your young people to vote without illegally blocking the street and getting into a scrap with police.

Except this protest took place in North Carolina, where, sadly, efforts have been made to prevent blacks from voting. So yes, someone may be stopping these people from voting.

Court: North Carolina Voter ID Laws Targeted Blacks With 'Almost Surgical Precision'

North Carolina Republicans Admit To Suppressing The Black Vote

Timeline: Voter suppression in the US from the Civil War to today
 
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Unfortunately, this kind of propaganda isn't all that odd anymore.

No, it isn't. And it gets posted here routinely with the same four-letter word intensity.

From the OP article, quote:

"In a statement released Saturday evening, Graham police said Drumwright and the marchers hadn’t followed proper procedures for holding the event. The department said that it warned the group that it would not be allowed to close the road, said Lt. Daniel Sisk, a spokesman for the Graham police."

The police are not to blame here. The lemmings who believe the law as dutifully legislated by elected officials no longer applies to them are.

All of this idiotic caterwauling about voter suppression and "we were just going to the polls" is just that, idiotic caterwauling. If the local authorities allow your gathering but properly inform the group will not be allowed to block the roadways and then you go ahead and block the roadways, rational adults understand you then don't get to cry and whine because the police enforced the law. Ergo:

"The department defended its use of pepper spraying, by saying, “[T]he assembly reached a level of conduct that led to the rally being deemed unsafe and unlawful by unified command.”

Many liberal Democrats champion this notion that all violation of the law, to include rioting, looting, assaulting the police, shooting the police, rape, and murder, are all perfectly fine and acceptable as long as those crimes are committed in the name of Trump-hate. People right here in this "Christians Only" sub-forum believe and champion the exact same philosophy. But the tactics being employed here are obvious.

Ask yourselves. What other organized group routinely and willfully places children in dangerous situations hoping they will be harmed in some manner so they can then be utilized as props to promote an agenda?

The answer is, for one, radical Islam. Democrats are in good company.
 
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