When God doesn't take away your pain.

[lambofgod43985889]

What do?
Keep going until death? If we sons of God have to suffer, we are just half-dead walking through the narrow path. Why other believers have fancy lives, and they are such sinners like us?

I understand God is sovereign, but if we lift our voice, something can change!

 

[Kenny'sID]

What kind of pain are we talking here, physical or mental?

 

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In the name of Jesus, be healed.

 

[lambofgod43985889]

What kind of pain are we talking here, physical or mental?

In the name of Jesus, be healed.

Blessed life in all aspects. Not to feel cursed.

 

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Matthew 18:3 - "Truly I tell you,” He said, “unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."

 

[rockytopva]

For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. - 1 John 5:4

I am white, with tough luck going in, of Scottish descent, and at one time a very negative guy. In the 1990's our factory hired several VT football players who were all black and of Word of Faith doctrine. In all my years of knowing these guys I have never once heard the first negative word out of their mouth, everything they spoke was faith. They called me, "McCwowt" and would say things like...

"Do you know what over comes fear McCwowt? Action! Action overcomes fear"

"I'm getting out of here McCwowt" And then lay out some plan of escape. They would also come to me asking...

"What are you believing God for McCwowt?" And expect some great plan that would bring joy to their hearts.

They were also very schooled in the Word of Faith. If you had any pains at all they would offer to pray for you right then and there. They also broke me of my negative talk and for that I am eternally grateful.

 

[Dave L]

Are you ruling out God's use of herbs for the service of man? God often uses means. Paul placed all his helpers on medicine when he could no longer heal.

 

[lambofgod43985889]

Are you ruling out God's use of herbs for the service of man? God often uses means. Paul placed all his helpers on medicine when he could no longer heal.

What about economic success

 

[Mark Quayle]

What do?
Keep going until death? If we sons of God have to suffer, we are just half-dead walking through the narrow path. Why other believers have fancy lives, and they are such sinners like us?

I understand God is sovereign, but if we lift our voice, something can change!

Agreed, but:

We are here for God's sake. This is not about us, but about him. "For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us." "...that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death..." It is an incomparable honor!

The point of prayer is more to change us, than to change our circumstances, INCLUDING, our constant failures to obey, our lack of purity, perhaps the most painful thing we undergo. I don't expect anymore to be completely rid of the "old man" until I shed this carcass. Now THAT is grace that God is willing to keep me and continues to work on me, who continue to be unworthy!

 

[Jamdoc]

What do?
Keep going until death? If we sons of God have to suffer, we are just half-dead walking through the narrow path. Why other believers have fancy lives, and they are such sinners like us?

I understand God is sovereign, but if we lift our voice, something can change!

It's an extremely good question and I wonder the same thing. Some people claim that suffering makes us better people but from my own experience, it has made me pessimistic and bitter, and given me massive FOMO because of things that can only be done in this earthly life that I'm unable to do in my current body.
The way I feel about it, is that I'd love God more if He did heal me and bless me with those things, that alleviated my FOMO because I wouldn't miss out on these things, and I'd have more to be thankful to Him for, for things that happen to myself rather than only being able to thank Him for the same things over and over because nothing else positive ever happens for me and I end up having to thank Him for things that happen to other people instead even as I suffer and hence comes bitterness because I never have anything to new to thank Him for that happens to me.
It'd make more sense that I glorify God more, and love Him more, if I'm more satisfied in the work He does in me, and more thankful to Him.
But in suffering, it's hard to find positive.

 

[lambofgod43985889]

It's an extremely good question and I wonder the same thing. Some people claim that suffering makes us better people but from my own experience, it has made me pessimistic and bitter, and given me massive FOMO because of things that can only be done in this earthly life that I'm unable to do in my current body.
The way I feel about it, is that I'd love God more if He did heal me and bless me with those things, that alleviated my FOMO because I wouldn't miss out on these things, and I'd have more to be thankful to Him for, for things that happen to myself rather than only being able to thank Him for the same things over and over because nothing else positive ever happens for me and I end up having to thank Him for things that happen to other people instead even as I suffer and hence comes bitterness because I never have anything to new to thank Him for that happens to me.
It'd make more sense that I glorify God more, and love Him more, if I'm more satisfied in the work He does in me, and more thankful to Him.
But in suffering, it's hard to find positive.

Blessings, hope God hears you.

 

[Dave L]

What about economic success

That's guaranteed pain.

 

[rockytopva]

For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. - 1 John 5:4

 

[lambofgod43985889]

That's guaranteed pain.

The kings in the old testament had hundreds of wives and wealth, and many of them god heaven in that way

 

[lambofgod43985889]

For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. - 1 John 5:4

I don't feel satisfied.

 

[lambofgod43985889]

He let others defeat me
He put me on my knees
In front of my adversaries,
For what reason?
I don't want to know
I want to be happy
And living on this earth
I will never get that.

 

[rockytopva]

I would listen into the Zig Ziglar until I came up with a plan....

 

[lambofgod43985889]

I would listen into the Zig Ziglar until I came up with a

What are you saying?

 

[rockytopva]

What are you saying?

I believe Zig Ziglar, who is a Christian, can give you the insight to get you from here to there.

 

[lambofgod43985889]

I believe Zig Ziglar, who is a Christian, can give you the insight to get you from here to there.

I would like: I believe Jesus... And goes on...