Don't talk bad things about Catholics nor homosexuals

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I agree that we are to be kind to one another but i disagree that its not a sin.

By definition its a sin. People said that David and Johathan had a wholesome platonic relationship, and the opposite of wholesome is not conductive to moral well being, not justifiable.







Exactly. The entire purpose of this thread seems to be promoting homosexuality and that is definitely a problem in itself.
 
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Thanks @All4Christ. I’ve noticed it too but just learned to let it slide. Lol! God bless you. :)
I’ve had many think I’m a guy as well ;) despite the signature under my avatar, lol.
 
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Exactly. The entire purpose of this thread seems to be promoting homosexuality and that is definitely a problem in itself.
Its a self defeating statement. adam and eves kids marrying siblings wasnt incest even though they were closely related because it was justifiable and not grotesque like incest in later time periods. That implies that by definition incest is unwholesome and unjustifiable.
 
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You are a pal, a fellow, a companion





If you treat your friends the way you've been treating her I wonder how you treat your enemies. And I'm saying this because I only want the best for you,.. but people aren't going to want to be friends with you if you insult them and their faith. (Or if you insult their friends.)
 
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Exactly. The entire purpose of this thread seems to be promoting homosexuality and that is definitely a problem in itself.
Bad argument I mentioned. Some things are never to be mixed in with what is sacred but that doesn't mean that those things are wrong. Im not saying I think its right but what I said made no sense. I apologize.
 
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Bad argument I mentioned. Some things are never to be mixed in with what is sacred but that doesn't mean that those things are wrong. Im not saying I think its right but what I said made no sense. I apologize.







It's alright I was confused about what you said anyways. So no problem! :D
 
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Let's have peace, in the end when god will judge every human we will be saved, at least I ask Jesus for that
Well, it's your thread. See if you can rescue it and bring it to a peaceful close. Right now it's a hot mess and you have antagonized all the Catholics who have read it.
 
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Well, it's your thread. See if you can rescue it and bring it to a peaceful close. Right now it's a hot mess and you have antagonized all the Catholics who have read it.






And me since they're my friends.
 
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Let's have peace, in the end when god will judge every human we will be saved, at least I ask Jesus for that
Then why have you antagonized so many in this thread?
 
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It's alright I was confused about what you said anyways. So no problem! :D
Why was incest allowed in the Bible?
Cain was married to either his sister or his niece. Sarah was Abraham's half-sister. Abraham's brother Nahor married his niece Milcah. Why was incest allowed in the Bible?

The Bible doesn't say, but we can speculate. Adam and Eve were created genetically pure. They had no congenital defects to pass on to their offspring. DNA damage accumulates over time, but even 2000 years later, when Abraham was born, genes were healthy enough to allow for him to marry his half-sister. Genetic abnormalities did not influence marriage partners until they had multiplied enough to be a health risk.

Another possible reason is the patriarchy and tribalism common at the time. When Isaac needed a wife, Abraham did not want him to marry one of the local Canaanite women. Their religion was anathema to the worship of God. So he sent his servant back to his homeland to find a woman from his relatives (Genesis 24). Later, Rebekah convinced Isaac to send their son Jacob away to her family to find a wife (Genesis 27:46). In doing so, the family unit was kept strong, and ungodly religious influences were kept to a minimum. This was particularly true among Egyptian royalty, where incest was used to maintain the royal line—and make for some very unhealthy pharaohs.

God tightened incest standards when He gave the law to Moses. A man could not marry his mother, step-mother, mother-in-law, aunt, father's brothers' wife, sister, half-sister, the sister of his living wife, stepdaughter, daughter-in-law, granddaughter, or step-granddaughter. Basically, he could not marry anyone descended from him, anyone who would cause problems with his wife, or anyone directly connected to the older men of his line. It is thought that there was no mention of a man marrying his daughter because the disgrace of the relationship was obvious (Genesis 2:24 may also indicate that marriage between children and parents had never been considered allowable); but a man could marry his niece. A woman could not marry her grandmother's spouse, step-father, father-in-law, brother, half-brother, living husband's brother, nephew, brother-in-law's child, son, stepson, or son-in-law. A woman could marry her uncle.

In ancient times, it was often taboo to have relations with your child or sibling, but the first comprehensive mandate in the Bible didn't arrive until the Mosaic Law. In the early Old Testament, incest was allowed because it wasn't genetically dangerous and it wasn't against the law.

The term incest was used even when the behavior was acceptable, so there are other ways to look at what I said. I dont understand the liberal position though-how can something in this case be not appropriate but acceptable. Someone said about a church having a halloween party, after being convicted that halloween is just gross spooky stuff, that it wasnt a sin but it wasnt appropriate.
 
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Hmm,.. that's interesting,.. but it still doesn't give him any right to insult people and hurt their feelings. At least we have a better understanding of it now though,.. but yeah, he shouldn't be finding fault with things that he doesn't understand because it hurts people and makes them upset and I don't like to see my friends upset. :( (Not just @Michie,.. sorry @Lost4words I forgot that you were Catholic and I apologize to all of my other Catholic friends on here that I forgot to mention. Love you all. :hug:)


Get behind me Satan!
(but, it still doesn't give Jesus any right to insult people and hurt Peter's feelings.) :scratch:

Jesus said that we are to be honest with one another, and to love one another like He loved the disciples. He was loving Peter, and was being absolutely blunt with the Truth that Peter needed to be crushed by before the Lord could rebuild Peter into what God wanted Peter to become.

If we walk in the Spirit and seek to follow the Truth? We will get (at times) our feelings stomped on. If we want to continue following Him? Our flesh is not to be given any quarters if we wish to follow the Lord. That is why Jesus required the following for anyone who wished to truly follow the Word of God:

Then Jesus said to his disciples, “If any of you wants
to be my follower, you must give up your own way,
take up your cross, and follow me."
Mat 16:24​

So... If we learn and study God's Word with accuracy? And, come to the realization that (according to the Word of God) something is corrupt? AND, EXPOSING IT WILL HURT SOME FEELINGS? Are feelings supposed to trump Truth?


For the time will come when men will not put up with/tolerate
sound doctrine.
Instead, to suit their own desires, they will
gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their
itching ears want to hear."
2 Tim 4:3​


Its no wonder why we have over 1000 denominations. Feelings rule.
 
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Why was incest allowed in the Bible?


The term incest was used even when the behavior was acceptable, so there are other ways to look at what I said. I dont understand the liberal position though-how can something in this case be not appropriate but acceptable. Someone said about a church having a halloween party, after being convicted that halloween is just gross spooky stuff, that it wasnt a sin but it wasnt appropriate.






Oh I don't know about that Halloween is just a bit of harmless fun to me but that's an entirely different topic altogether.



Get behind me Satan! (but it still doesn't give Jesus any right to insult people and hurt Peter's feelings.)

Jesus said that we are to be honest with one another, and to love one another like He loved the disciples. He was loving Peter and was being absolutely blunt with the Truth that Peter needed to be crush by before the Lord could rebuild Peter into what God wanted Peter to become.

If we walk in the Spirit and seek to follow the Truth? We will get (at times) our feelings stomped on. Our flesh is not to be given any quarters if we wish to follow the Lord. That is why? Jesus required the following for anyone who wished to truly follow the Word of God:

Then Jesus said to his disciples, “If any of you wants
to be my follower, you must give up your own way,
take up your cross, and follow me."
Mat 16:24​

So... If we learn and study God's Word? And, come to the realization that (according to the Word of God) something is corrupt? AND, EXPOSING IT WILL HURT SOME FEELINGS? Are feelings supposed to trump Truth?


For the time will come when men will not put up with/tolerate
sound doctrine.
Instead, to suit their own desires, they will
gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their
itching ears want to hear."
2 Tim 4:3​


Its no wonder why we have over 1000 denominations. Feelings rule.









I wasn't talking about your or Jesus hurting anybody's feelings. Neither of you were doing anything.
 
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They don't call me brother, Catholics are majority here. Try not to offend nobody I feel sad for that.
The Truth got Jesus crucified. The Truth got Martin Luther almost assassinated because he decided to show believers what the Bible teaches....

Deep State corruption has been with the world for a long time. Always working its way into positions of legitimate power as to corrupt it and use it for their own selfish desires..
If it does not agree with the written Word of God? Its the denial of Christ. For He is the Word made flesh.
 
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