Peter was clearly not preaching the same gospel as Paul gave to us in the Body of Christ.
The Two Gospels claim above is one of the greatest errors of modern Dispensational Theology.
Do you believe Galatians 1:6-9 cannot apply to you?
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Peter was clearly not preaching the same gospel as Paul gave to us in the Body of Christ.
I already stated to you plainly what Peter taught Israel in 1 Peter 4. I do understand why you are not willing to address it because it makes for uncomfortable reading.
17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
Is that what you are believing now, that you are not even sure of your own salvation? That you are expecting judgement to fall on you in the age to come?
But Christ is not the "King" of the Body of Christ. Paul never taught us that.
Obviously I don't subscribe to that, since I kept emphasizing that the Body of Christ has a separate destiny, from the nation Israel, and that God still has a plan for the nation Israel.
I quoted the verses about how God regarded the nation Israel
The judgment coming was to Old Covenant apostate Israel that occurred in 70 AD. That's not a different Gospel - it's a different covenant.
"The age to come" came in 70 AD. Peter was writing in the transition. View attachment 284622
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That's probably a topic for another thread. Let me know if you want to start a new thread or want me to.If there was a 40 year period when both covenants were in effect in the eyes of God, how do you explain the following passages?
How many people came to salvation through the Old Covenant during that time?
Well said!Thank you for representing dispensationalism in this thread. I think it's been well demonstrated that the hard line dispensationalists will not cross is unity between the faithful remnant of the Israelites and the Gentiles (Ephesians 2:14).....or, in their typical words, the Body of Christ and Israel are separate and there are two plans for salvation. This is all stated and defended against Scriptural evidence that refutes these beliefs. I'm not certain if it's typical dispensationalism to believe that Paul taught a different Gospel from Peter....but that's what's been represented in this thread to further the idea of separation between Israel and the Church.
Exactly. Our theology can't be called "replacement" because no one is being replaced. However.....dispensationalism replaces the faithful remnant (and Jesus, as the seed of Abraham) with a modern and man-formed geopolitical entity and steals away what God had fulfilled in the first century.The sad thing is they hate us for opposing a Jewish Redemption, but we don't oppose the salvation of anyone,
I've read Exodus 4 and Jeremiah 31.
Nowhere does God enter into covenant with unfaithful disobedient unbelievers.
Did you read Deuteronomy 28:15-68?
What does it tell you about how God regarded Israel?
Why do you refuse to recognize the difference between the faithful obedient believers, and the unfaithful disobedient unbelievers; of Israel?
The judgment coming was to Old Covenant apostate Israel that occurred in 70 AD. That's not a different Gospel - it's a different covenant.
"The age to come" came in 70 AD. Peter was writing in the transition. View attachment 284622
Image from Adam Maarschalk's blog
By promoting a general Jewish redemption, you are more that wasting your time, you are preaching against plainly given scriptures.I may be wasting my time here but let me give it one last attempt.
By promoting a general Jewish redemption, you are more that wasting your time, you are preaching against plainly given scriptures.
I can provide 20 prophesies, that describe the Lord's plans for them.
They all tell about the virtual demise of Judah, a people who, by the grace of God; have had nearly 2000 years to get right with God, but have not and never will.
Understand this; the Israelites of God are the people who have overcome evil for God. As Jacob did.
Ethnicity plays no part in who is a true Israelite. Ephesians 2:11-15
No....I'm not in agreement with you.Are you agreeing with me now that Peter was not writing to the body of Christ?
Kingdoms need a king. If there's a kingdom - there's a king.None of those scriptures you quoted addressed the points I raised.
Colossians, for example, does not say anything about Christ being our King.
I may be wasting my time here but let me give it one last attempt.
What does Israel is my son meant to you in exodus 4:22?
Remember The law has not been given yet so you cannot use the convenient excuse that it only refers to faithful and obedient Jews from israel