Catholic priest says Democrats are going to hell — and Texas bishop backs him up

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Catholic priest says Democrats are going to hell — and Texas bishop backs him up

I have to admit, many opposing Donald Trump have abused him in worldly fashion, the hatred is so disgusting, it is only appropriate for me to say that God is the only judge worthy to judge.
 
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He doesn't mince his words:

"There were zero, faithful Catholics, who voted for that godless politician [Obama], who had the audacity to blaspheme, and say, 'God bless planned parenthood'".
 
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He doesn't mince his words:

"There were zero, faithful Catholics, who voted for that godless politician [Obama], who had the audacity to blaspheme, and say, 'God bless planned parenthood'".
Haiti was described as 80% Catholic and is the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere. Secular China is wealthier. They may not accept family planning or birth control. Where will they get food if the Vatican sends them none? Haiti is not heaven, it is 80% Catholic.
 
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I keep seeing the talking points that Joe Biden is known to be a "devout Catholic". How is that known? He is a Catholic because he is a member of the Catholic church as are many others who don't seem to get to claim devoutness. How can anyone know he is devout ? Is there some objective standard that they are going by that just dismisses the idea that to be devout one must be in line with church doctrine on substantive moral issues? I don't think such an objective standard exists. Yet, whenever Joe's religious affiliation is mentioned in a mainstream or left wing article or by a defender of Biden that subjectively arrived at adjective "devout" is always preceding the factual word Catholic. How do these people that invariably call Joe "devout" determine this devoutness they claim for Mr. Biden?
 
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Did these two priest have that same fire for Catholic priest who were molesting and raping children? If they didn't then maybe they should not be so quick to condemn anybody...

Obviously if you see the video that was mentioned, be it indirectly
 
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Haiti was described as 80% Catholic and is the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere. Secular China is wealthier. They may not accept family planning or birth control. Where will they get food if the Vatican sends them none? Haiti is not heaven, it is 80% Catholic.
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A Wisconsin priest who condemned Catholic Democrats has the support of a Texas bishop.

Father James Altman, pastor of St. James the Less Catholic Church, lashed out at Father James Martin, who participated in the Democratic National Convention. In a 10-minute video posted to YouTube, Altman called the priest a “hyper, confusing spreading heretic” and had harsh words toward Democrats.

Catholic priest says Democrats are going to hell — and Texas bishop backs him up
No lie detected.
 
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So apparently increasing funding to food assistance programs, increase in funding to community health services, reducing mass incarceration, achieving racial justice, eliminating violence against women, making it easier to achieve refugee status, providing a high quality education regardless of zip code and others things are against the teachings of the Catholic Church. Good to know.

In all seriousness, I get that the Democratic Party isn't perfect. There are things they support that go directly against the teachings of the Catholic Church. But the same is true of the Republican party. Neither party is consistently in line with the teachings of the Catholic Church, and I also realize that some issues are more important to the Catholic Church then others. But the Conference of Bishops has also clearly stated that Catholics shouldn't vote based on one issue to the exclusion of others. So saying somebody that thinks that the Democratic platform agrees in more areas with the teaching of the Church then the Republican platform is still going to hell because of those two to three issues seems to go against that teaching.
 
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Haiti was described as 80% Catholic and is the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere. Secular China is wealthier.
Thanks in part to China's slave laborers. Was their (lack of) wealth accounted for?
 
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Thanks in part to China's slave laborers. Was their (lack of) wealth accounted for?
That is true. Secular China has instituted a police state that has made democracy illegal. Preachers were jailed. A megachurch was blown up. They have hacked US, Canadian and other nation’s computers to spy and steal intellectual property. We can not trust China.

They sensed their population was too large and they made a one child rule. That produced a bulge in the older population. After awhile they repealed the law. Their fishing boats illegally fished in N. Korean waters and they made hostile claims to parts of the South China Sea by building artificial islands then saying they owned all the waters around them. China did illegal oil and gas drilling in Vietnamese waters. They have threatened Taiwan, Japan and the Philippines. China invaded India provoking armed conflict. China is not heaven either.
 
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Did these two priest have that same fire for Catholic priest who were molesting and raping children? If they didn't then maybe they should not be so quick to condemn anybody...
There's something of a point there, but those are not parallel situations.

You are referring to policy and practice, but not to doctrine. Condoning the taking of an innocent life is a matter of doctrine.
 
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I keep seeing the talking points that Joe Biden is known to be a "devout Catholic". How is that known? He is a Catholic because he is a member of the Catholic church as are many others who don't seem to get to claim devoutness. How can anyone know he is devout ? Is there some objective standard that they are going by that just dismisses the idea that to be devout one must be in line with church doctrine on substantive moral issues? I don't think such an objective standard exists. Yet, whenever Joe's religious affiliation is mentioned in a mainstream or left wing article or by a defender of Biden that subjectively arrived at adjective "devout" is always preceding the factual word Catholic. How do these people that invariably call Joe "devout" determine this devoutness they claim for Mr. Biden?
Since humans can't see into the minds of others it may refer to some externality e.g. for how long Biden has gone to church and/or been a church member.
 
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A Wisconsin priest who condemned Catholic Democrats has the support of a Texas bishop.

Father James Altman, pastor of St. James the Less Catholic Church, lashed out at Father James Martin, who participated in the Democratic National Convention. In a 10-minute video posted to YouTube, Altman called the priest a “hyper, confusing spreading heretic” and had harsh words toward Democrats.

Catholic priest says Democrats are going to hell — and Texas bishop backs him up

I must agree with the good Priest and good Bishop
 
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I keep seeing the talking points that Joe Biden is known to be a "devout Catholic". How is that known? He is a Catholic because he is a member of the Catholic church as are many others who don't seem to get to claim devoutness. How can anyone know he is devout ? Is there some objective standard that they are going by that just dismisses the idea that to be devout one must be in line with church doctrine on substantive moral issues? I don't think such an objective standard exists. Yet, whenever Joe's religious affiliation is mentioned in a mainstream or left wing article or by a defender of Biden that subjectively arrived at adjective "devout" is always preceding the factual word Catholic. How do these people that invariably call Joe "devout" determine this devoutness they claim for Mr. Biden?

True. Biden can not be a devout Catholic until he totally renounces Abortion.
 
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True. Biden can not be a devout Catholic until he totally renounces Abortion.
So...would you apply that same rule to someone who hasn't renounced repeatedly breaking the Sixth Commandment?
tulc(is just curious)
 
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