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The Barbarian

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Well the WHO was supposed to be the bogeyman behind all this scare to bring about lockdowns and discourage people from travelling and basically bring us all back within our borders - But in fact the WHO was publishing advice that lockdowns were not really very effective before this pandemic ever happened, and now they are telling governments to listen to what anti-lockdown protestors are saying.

July 14, 2020 -- World Health Organization experts warned Monday that North and South American countries, including the U.S., are the center of the COVID-19 pandemic, and they painted a sober picture of the months ahead.

“Expecting that we will eradicate or eliminate this virus within the coming months is not realistic,” said Mike Ryan, MD, executive director of the WHO’s health emergencies program. “Also, believing that magically, we will get a perfect vaccine that everyone will have access to is not realistic,” he said.

Ryan said additional “limited or geographically focused” lockdowns may be necessary in specific areas where transmission is out of control.

He warned that areas seeing surging cases need to take urgent steps.
WHO Warns More Lockdowns May Be Needed
 
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Even if it exists as a strain, it is not deadly, by and large, and the responses to this are definitely Orwellian. Are you going to take the vaccine? Do you not trust God? Do you believe that a synthetic chemical in your body is more effective than allowing your own God-given immune system to take care of things naturally? Are you okay with giving up freedom? Let me guess, you trust the mainstream media when they lie all the time.
Here we go again. I saw this comment someone made in YouTube and told him I am going to use it because its perfect in nailing this hoax right on its head.

"A virus so deadly that one needs to be tested to see if you even have it."

There will always be gullible people everywhere who can easily panic. That is the stronghold that this public lie is targeting.

Only the Word of God taught accurately will expose to themselves their own weakness that they must learn to contend with on God's terms to escape the traps being set before them.

But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you,
for my power is made perfect in weakness.”
2 Cor 12:9a​


Those weak in the Word will be weak and following the herd.

Yes... its a hoax. Russian collusion was a hoax they dragged on for over two years. They have no qualms about lying to the public.
 
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"A virus so deadly that one needs to be tested to see if you even have it."

That or you stop breathing...

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Something like that.

There will always be gullible people everywhere who can easily be fooled by weird conspiracy theories and denials. But over 190,000 Americans have died from this virus.
 
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Barbarian need to take a hike. You sound just like the news. This virus is all political. There are worse viruses in the past than this yet they did not shut down the economy, force people to stay home or if they went out wear a muzzle and stay apart which makes no difference instead people who are social creatures get sick from depression.

What irritated me the most was they closed my Church and instead have fake virtual church. Because of not be able to go I got maniacally depressed even feeling suicidal.

So stop posting deaths which all are not due to Covid. Most survive but they never talk about that in the media.
 
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Where are you getting this - from what recognised medical sources? Zinc lozenges? never heard that till now except they help for colds, but you say coronavirus is much worse than a bad cold. You know I take its that its both dangerous and irresponsible to spread false info, or even true info in an alarmist manner on the forums, especally as vulnerable people use these forums for the mental health support subforums?

I gave links to some Zinc info. And what is totally irresponsible are people who do not care about others and put them in jeopardy, We are all held accountable for our actions. I will face God also and He will hold me responsible for whatever careless acts I did that put others in danger. Everyone will face Him. He knows who put others in danger for their own selfishness and who did not. And He knows who slandered others.
 
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Barbarian need to take a hike.

Just did this morning. Walk at least 2 miles each day. Does wonders for the disposition. You should try it.

This virus is all political.

No virus is political. They're completely indifferent to political opinions. But sometimes, as in this case, the extreme right tries to make something political, when it's really inappropriate to do so.

There are worse viruses in the past than this yet they did not shut down the economy, force people to stay home or if they went out wear a muzzle and stay apart which makes no difference instead people who are social creatures get sick from depression.

Actually, it's a very common and effective way to limit exposure to airborne pathogens. It's why surgical teams use them. If they didn't work, they wouldn't use them.

What irritated me the most was they closed my Church and instead have fake virtual church. Because of not be able to go I got maniacally depressed even feeling suicidal.

Seems to me, it makes more sense to get some help for your condition, than to insist people should die so you don't get depressed. As I said, a brisk morning hike would probably do wonders for you. And it won't kill anyone else.

There is a serious COVID-19 undercount, but over time, we'll be able to find those to get a more accurate death toll.
 
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July 14, 2020 -- World Health Organization experts warned Monday that North and South American countries, including the U.S., are the center of the COVID-19 pandemic, and they painted a sober picture of the months ahead.

“Expecting that we will eradicate or eliminate this virus within the coming months is not realistic,” said Mike Ryan, MD, executive director of the WHO’s health emergencies program. “Also, believing that magically, we will get a perfect vaccine that everyone will have access to is not realistic,” he said.

Ryan said additional “limited or geographically focused” lockdowns may be necessary in specific areas where transmission is out of control.

He warned that areas seeing surging cases need to take urgent steps.
WHO Warns More Lockdowns May Be Needed


When its out of control they are talking about localised lockdowns - not nationwide lockdowns - to know if its out of control means that they have to look at it in a wider context, not just react to the latest spike. Here in the UK things stablised again in August after an increase in cases at the end of July, suggesting it may not be wise to assume in the very short term that it is out of control.

They did publish a fairly comprehensive report over a year ago, looking at the limitations of lockdowns, I had a glance at it a few months ago, they didn't rule out lockdowns but made it clear they brought with them a lot of additional hardships which may make them counterproductive except in very severe epidemics. In the UK government analysts estimated 16,000 deaths may have occured due to our lockdown, these are non-covid deaths. That is what I would call quite a lot.
 
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Zinc has a fairly low toxicity. The literature supports idea that up to 150mg/day can be ingested for a long period of time, with little or no adverse effects. So it won't hurt to take reasonable levels of zinc. It hasn't been proven to help , but there is evidence that it does have some antiviral effects.
 
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They did publish a fairly comprehensive report over a year ago, looking at the limitations of lockdowns, I had a glance at it a few months ago, they didn't rule out lockdowns but made it clear they brought with them a lot of additional hardships which may make them counterproductive except in very severe epidemics. In the UK government analysts estimated 16,000 deaths may have occured due to our lockdown, these are non-covid deaths. That is what I would call quite a lot.

Post a link. Sounds interesting.
 
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I gave links to some Zinc info. And what is totally irresponsible are people who do not care about others and put them in jeopardy, We are all held accountable for our actions. I will face God also and He will hold me responsible for whatever careless acts I did that put others in danger. Everyone will face Him. He knows who put others in danger for their own selfishness and who did not. And He knows who slandered others.

Zinc helps if a person has a zinc deficiency - as may be the case in the elderly, or in children. It helps with the cold - its not some silver bullet to fight coronavirus and it is toxic in high amounts over 150mg a day - resulting in reduced immune system reponse. Many things are required for a healthy immune system. There are lots of links with advice online for improving one's immune system.

Can Zinc Lozenges Ward Off Coronavirus? - MedicineNet Health News
 
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Zinc helps if a person has a zinc deficiency -

You are most likely to develop a zinc deficiency while fighting a disease if your reserves are marginal. You did not know this?

Its a common problem today.. One thing to look for with men having erectile dysfunction is for a zinc deficiency. More people are low in zinc than realized...
 
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I really have to take my leave of this thread and i am incredibly tired - if you want to try a search it was a WHO survey of non-pharamseutical measures

Just checking to see if it was real or another right-wing disinformation attempt. You link is some tabloid, that doesn't link to the supposed "government study."

Anyone else have a checkable link? (not holding my breath)
 
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