Futurist Only So wait.. there's a dedicated altar and ritual sacrifices being performed again NOW?

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I've been unaware since this wasn't something in the news for me but even on these forums I see that there was an altar, meant to be able to be taken apart and reassembled on the temple mount, and that the Sanhedrin have been performing animal sacrifices since 2019?

Is this true or is this all a ruse?
 

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I've been unaware since this wasn't something in the news for me but even on these forums I see that there was an altar, meant to be able to be taken apart and reassembled on the temple mount, and that the Sanhedrin have been performing animal sacrifices since 2019?

Is this true or is this all a ruse?
Jesus put an end to animal sacrifice with his own blood. So it is bogus if it exists. And another nail in their coffin.
 
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Jesus put an end to animal sacrifice with his own blood. So it is bogus if it exists. And another nail in their coffin.

You're not getting it. The Jews do not accept Jesus as the Messiah, they're waiting for a Messiah, and what they will receive as the Messiah is likely the Antichrist, which they won't know until the abomination of desolation.

So as far as the Sanhedrin are concerned, they want to build a physical temple where the Temple of Solomon was, and return to animal sacrifices, and they have the altar to do it with already ready. It can be disassembled and reassembled on the site on the temple mount.

So to the Jews, Jesus is irrelevant and what you believe is irrelevant, because they do not believe in Him. The bible DOES prophesy about a rebuilt temple, and an end of sacrifices (which means they have to begin again, which apparently has begun again) preceding the Great Tribulations.
 
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You're not getting it. The Jews do not accept Jesus as the Messiah, they're waiting for a Messiah, and what they will receive as the Messiah is likely the Antichrist, which they won't know until the abomination of desolation.

So as far as the Sanhedrin are concerned, they want to build a physical temple where the Temple of Solomon was, and return to animal sacrifices, and they have the altar to do it with already ready. It can be disassembled and reassembled on the site on the temple mount.

So to the Jews, Jesus is irrelevant and what you believe is irrelevant, because they do not believe in Him. The bible DOES prophesy about a rebuilt temple, and an end of sacrifices (which means they have to begin again, which apparently has begun again) preceding the Great Tribulations.
Here's what you don't get. Anyone who takes part in this commits an unforgivable sin according to Hebrews 6. And I think those who plan on doing it are lost forever.
 
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I've been unaware since this wasn't something in the news for me but even on these forums I see that there was an altar, meant to be able to be taken apart and reassembled on the temple mount, and that the Sanhedrin have been performing animal sacrifices since 2019?

Is this true or is this all a ruse?

I've been watching this since the first of last year. Even though I'm a supporter of the president I see this all moving forward towards end times. He is helping the Jewish people bring about the anti christ, their messiah. If you have some spare time here is a couple of good videos that explain my views and what I see happening. I still support him because I wish this to hurry up and happen. If I remember correctly this Friday they are suppose to rule on the status of the red heffer or whatever its called.


 
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Even though I'm a supporter of the president I see this all moving forward towards end times. He is helping the Jewish people bring about the anti christ, their messiah.


In the video below Jacob Rothschild explains how his family created the modern State of Israel. Never during the video does Rothschild give the credit to God.



What do the following passages of scripture reveal about "antichrist"?

Romans 2:28-29, 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11, Revelation 2:9, Revelation 3:9, Revelation 11:8 ?


Do any of those passages refer to Jacob Rothschild?

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In the video below Jacob Rothschild explains how his family created the modern State of Israel. Never during the video does Rothschild give the credit to God.



What do the following passages of scripture reveal about "antichrist"?

Romans 2:28-29, 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11, Revelation 2:9, Revelation 3:9, Revelation 11:8 ?


Do any of those passages refer to Jacob Rothschild?

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Wow. Thank you. I watched part of it on my phone. I'm going to watch it all later on a bigger screen. A lot of behind the scenes things happening to bring all this about. We the people are told, look over here and be distracted from what's going on.
 
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Here's what you don't get. Anyone who takes part in this commits an unforgivable sin according to Hebrews 6. And I think those who plan on doing it are lost forever.

I'm not taking part in it, I'm seeing it as a sign of the times and that Jesus will return soon. Daniel 12:11 says that the daily sacrifices will stop when the abomination of desolation occurs.
For this to happen, the sacrifices need to start again, meaning they at least need to have an altar to perform them. They have the altar, and are performing sacrifices on it, I don't know about daily. I'm looking at this happening and seeing us careening towards the great tribulations and the second coming of Jesus.
 
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I've been watching this since the first of last year. Even though I'm a supporter of the president I see this all moving forward towards end times. He is helping the Jewish people bring about the anti christ, their messiah. If you have some spare time here is a couple of good videos that explain my views and what I see happening. I still support him because I wish this to hurry up and happen. If I remember correctly this Friday they are suppose to rule on the status of the red heffer or whatever its called.



I actually just watched that first video today, that's why it kind of blew my mind, I had to double check on what the video claimed about the altar and the sacrifices, hence this thread.
 
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I'm not taking part in it, I'm seeing it as a sign of the times and that Jesus will return soon. Daniel 12:11 says that the daily sacrifices will stop when the abomination of desolation occurs.
For this to happen, the sacrifices need to start again, meaning they at least need to have an altar to perform them. They have the altar, and are performing sacrifices on it, I don't know about daily. I'm looking at this happening and seeing us careening towards the great tribulations and the second coming of Jesus.
Those practicing it now or planning to have already committed an unforgivable sin Hebrews 6:ff
 
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I've been unaware since this wasn't something in the news for me but even on these forums I see that there was an altar, meant to be able to be taken apart and reassembled on the temple mount, and that the Sanhedrin have been performing animal sacrifices since 2019?

Is this true or is this all a ruse?

You talkin about this article in 2018?

Yes, but no Temple. The peace deal with UAE (and most likely other Arab states to come), along with Turkey wanting a Caliphate and making Churches into Mosques, is all very interesting and preparing the way for what is to come this decade, IMO. :)



Palestinians to protest Friday after Jews sacrifice lambs near Temple Mount
 
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I've been watching this since the first of last year. Even though I'm a supporter of the president I see this all moving forward towards end times. He is helping the Jewish people bring about the anti christ, their messiah. If you have some spare time here is a couple of good videos that explain my views and what I see happening. I still support him because I wish this to hurry up and happen. If I remember correctly this Friday they are suppose to rule on the status of the red heffer or whatever its called.



Yep, keep watching the Middle East and Jerusalem. :)

Zech 12,

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Future Deliverance for Jerusalem

1Thisa message concerning the fate of Israel came from the LORD: “This message is from the LORD, who stretched out the heavens, laid the foundations of the earth, and formed the human spirit. 2I will make Jerusalem like an intoxicating drink that makes the nearby nations stagger when they send their armies to besiege Jerusalem and Judah. 3On that day I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock. All the nations will gather against it to try to move it, but they will only hurt themselves.
 
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Yep, keep watching the Middle East and Jerusalem. :)

Zech 12,

New Living Translation Par ▾
Future Deliverance for Jerusalem

1Thisa message concerning the fate of Israel came from the LORD: “This message is from the LORD, who stretched out the heavens, laid the foundations of the earth, and formed the human spirit. 2I will make Jerusalem like an intoxicating drink that makes the nearby nations stagger when they send their armies to besiege Jerusalem and Judah. 3On that day I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock. All the nations will gather against it to try to move it, but they will only hurt themselves.

Which Jerusalem?

Is it the one in Revelation 3:12, or the one in Revelation 11:8?


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They are antichrist who reject Christ and the cross-work. This is all part of the end-time delusion. John deems anyone who denies “Jesus is the Christ (or Messiah)” as a liar” and an “antichrist.” This includes every single Jew and Gentile who rebels against God’s only provision for sin. There are no special exceptions or imaginary 3rd group of humans, as Dispies pretend. In 1 John 3:10 he shows that mankind is divided into two camps. One is called “the children of God” and the other is called “the children of the devil.”

There is more than just a general idea of "many antichrists" or "spirit of antichrist" there is actually going to be an Antichrist, singular. Jewish rabbinical interpretation of messianic prophecy is not waiting for the son of God, they're waiting for a man, a king, that will unite the world, which is more consistent with the "son of perdition" and "man of sin" in the bible. I know you abstract all scripture because you don't believe it can happen even remotely literally, but it's happening in our time. Baby boomers might be the "fig tree generation" that will not pass away until all is fulfilled. The remnant returning to Israel in 1948 is a big big sign.
 
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There is more than just a general idea of "many antichrists" or "spirit of antichrist" there is actually going to be an Antichrist, singular. Jewish rabbinical interpretation of messianic prophecy is not waiting for the son of God, they're waiting for a man, a king, that will unite the world, which is more consistent with the "son of perdition" and "man of sin" in the bible. I know you abstract all scripture because you don't believe it can happen even remotely literally, but it's happening in our time. Baby boomers might be the "fig tree generation" that will not pass away until all is fulfilled. The remnant returning to Israel in 1948 is a big big sign.

They're intent on incineration. Have at it.

I'm stocked up on popcorn.

Sozomen (ca. A.D.375-447)
"Ecclesiastical History"
Book V, Chapter XXII


Though the emperor [Julian the Apostate] hated and opressed the Christians, he manifested benevolence and humanity towards the Jews. He wrote to the Jewish patriarchs and leaders, as well as to the people, requesting them to pray for him, and for the prosperity of the empire. In taking this step he was not actuated, I am convinced, by any respect for their religion; for he was aware that it is, so to speak, the mother of the Christian religion, and he knew that both religions rest upon the authority of the patriarchs and the prophets; but he thought to grieve the Christians by favoring the Jews, who are their most inveterate enemies. But perhaps he also calculated upon persuading the Jews to embrace paganism and sacrifices; for they were only acquainted with the mere letter of Scripture, and could not, like the Christians and a few of the wisest among the Hebrews, discern the hidden meaning.

Events proved that this was his real motive; for he sent for some of the chiefs of the race and exhorted them to return to the observance of the laws of Moses and the customs of their fathers. On their replying that because the temple in Jerusalem was overturned, it was neither lawful nor ancestral to do this in another place than the metropolis out of which they had been cast, he gave them public money, commanded them to rebuild the temple, and to practice the cult similar to that of their ancestors, by sacrificing after the ancient way. The Jews entered upon the undertaking, without reflecting that, according to the prediction of the holy prophets, it could not be accomplished. They sought for the most skillful artisans, collected materials, cleared the ground, and entered so earnestly upon the task, that even the women carried heaps of earth, and brought their necklaces and other female ornaments towards defraying the expense. The emperor, the other pagans, and all the Jews, regarded every other undertaking as secondary in importance to this. Although the pagans were not well-disposed towards the Jews, yet they assisted them in this enterprise, because they reckoned upon its ultimate success, and hoped by this means to falsify the prophecies of Christ. Besides this motive, the Jews themselves were impelled by the consideration that the time had arrived for rebuilding their temple. When they had removed the ruins of the former building, they dug up the ground and cleared away its foundation; it is said that on the following day when they were about to lay the first foundation, a great earthquake occurred, and by the violent agitation of the earth, stones were thrown up from the depths, by which those of the Jews who were engaged in the work were wounded, as likewise those who were merely looking on. The houses and public porticos, near the site of the temple, in which they had diverted themselves, were suddenly thrown down; many were caught thereby, some perished immediately, others were found half dead and mutilated of hands or legs, others were injured in other parts of the body. When God caused the earthquake to cease, the workmen who survived again returned to their task, partly because such was the edict of the emperor, and partly because they were themselves interested in the undertaking. Men often, in endeavoring to gratify their own passions, seek what is injurious to them, reject what would be truly advantageous, and are deluded-by the idea that nothing is really useful except what is agreeable to them. When once led astray by this error, they are no longer able to act in a manner conducive to their own interests, or to take warning by the calamities which are visited upon them.

The Jews, I believe, were just in this state; for, instead of regarding this unexpected earthquake as a manifest indication that God was opposed to the re-erection of their temple, they proceeded to recommence the work. But all parties relate, that they had scarcely returned to the undertaking, when fire burst suddenly from the foundations of the temple, and consumed several of the workmen.

This fact is fearlessly stated, and believed by all; the only discrepancy in the narrative is that some maintain that flame burst from the interior of the temple, as the workmen were striving to force an entrance, while others say that the fire proceeded directly from the earth. In whichever way the phenomenon might have occurred, it is equally wonderful. A more tangible and still more extraordinary prodigy ensued; suddenly the sign of the cross appeared spontaneously on the garments of the persons engaged in the undertaking. These crosses were disposed like stars, and appeared the work of art. Many were hence led to confess that Christ is God, and that the rebuilding of the temple was not pleasing to Him; others presented themselves in the church, were initiated, and besought Christ, with hymns and supplications, to pardon their transgression. If any one does not feel disposed to believe my narrative, let him go and be convinced by those who heard the facts I have related from the eyewitnesses of them, for they are still alive. Let him inquire, also, of the Jews and pagans who left the work in an incomplete state, or who, to speak more accurately, were able to commence it.
 
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There is more than just a general idea of "many antichrists" or "spirit of antichrist" there is actually going to be an Antichrist, singular. Jewish rabbinical interpretation of messianic prophecy is not waiting for the son of God, they're waiting for a man, a king, that will unite the world, which is more consistent with the "son of perdition" and "man of sin" in the bible. I know you abstract all scripture because you don't believe it can happen even remotely literally, but it's happening in our time. Baby boomers might be the "fig tree generation" that will not pass away until all is fulfilled. The remnant returning to Israel in 1948 is a big big sign.

And esp. 1967 when they captured the city of Jerusalem and the Temple mount, but turned it back over to the Arabs. Dan 9:24, says the 70th week is for the Jews and the Holy city-Jerusalem. :)

https://mfa.gov.il/Jubilee-years/Pa...-the-Historic-Reunification-of-Jerusalem.aspx
 
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The remnant returning? Really? Do they love Christ? No, they hate Him. They are not the remnant but children of the devil. This is a fleshly artificially contrived unscriptural return bank-rolled by deluded believers throughout the world who have no understanding who true Israel is today. The wrath of God is therefore on apostate Zionist Israel.

Are you suggesting that those that hate Christ are God's chosen people?

Jesus said: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

Jesus was our signpost to heaven. He was our direction. He was the way! What is more, when men saw Christ they saw truth, when they heard Christ they heard truth, when they embraced Christ they embraced truth. He also was the embodiment of eternal life. Without Him is spiritual death.

Jesus said, in John 10:1, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.” He then goes on to explain, “I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture” (John 10:9).

Favor with God can come only through Jesus Christ. He is heaven’s only means of access to God. Acts 4:12 says, “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”

This is God’s only way to heaven. Christ is the center-point of salvation. We therefore see that Christ alone is our only way of access to heaven. There is no alternative arrangement pertaining to race or any other distinction. 1 Corinthians 3:11 states, “For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.”

Of course, Christ is the Rock that the believer stands on. He is the only spiritual foundation for man. Men either build their house upon that Rock or build it upon sand. Sand is self! A house properly built upon the Rock stands firm in the midst of the storm but the house built upon the sand falls apart. 1 Timothy 2:5-6 expressly states, “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time”

This couldn’t be any clearer! There is no Plan B. There is no back-doors into heaven. There is no alternative salvation. There is no other means of man gaining favor with God! There is no other way to become a child of God. There is no other path to be God’s one of God’s elect.

John the Baptist proclaimed in John 3:36, “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

There is nothing vague, ambiguous or complicated here. God only sees those in Christ and those not in Christ. There is also no room for fence-sitting here. If a Jew or Gentile (in the Old Testament or the New Testament) loves the Messiah Christ He is one of God's chosen, if he doesn't he is under the wrath of God. Simple!!! Basically: accept Jesus and God accepts you, reject Him and God rejects you.

Jesus said in John 5:23b-24, “He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”

Ok, what does this mean? Simple: those Jews and Gentiles that don’t accept Christ, don’t accept the Father. Christ-rejecting Jews and Gentiles are therefore under condemnation and are of their father the devil.

I John 2:22-23 solemnly asks, “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ (or Messiah)? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.”

Q. Does Israel overwhelmingly deny “that Jesus is the Christ” or Messiah?

A. Absolutely. Therefore, Judaism without Christ is a counterfeit religion. It is apostate! Any belief that denies Christ His rightful place as man's sole Redeemer is destined for destruction. Anyone that rejects Christ (1) is antichrist, (2) belongs to Satan, (3) is part of the kingdom of darkness and is (4) bound for the Lake of Fire.

1 John 5:12: “He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.”

The teaching of Scripture couldn’t be plainer: Jews who do recognize Christ as Messiah are saved. Jews who do not recognize Christ as Messiah are lost. The only chosen people that God knows and accepts are those that accept His Son. The rest are of their father the devil.

2 John 1:9: “Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.”

If a sinner refuses Christ, he refuses the Father. This couldn’t be clearer in Scripture.

Jesus said in Luke 9:48, “whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me.”

So, those that reject Jesus, reject salvation. Those that reject Jesus, reject the Father. Those that reject Jesus, are children of the devil. This is seen throughout the inspired New Testament account.

Jesus said in Matthew 11:6: “blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.”

We don’t need to speculate about what natural Israel currently thinks of Christ.

Jesus said in Matthew 12:30, “He that is not with me is against me.”

There is no neutrality with this Jesus. There is no room for fence-sitting when it comes to Him. You are either for Him or against Him.

Jesus said in John 15:23, “He that hateth me hateth my Father also.”

God does not separate His elect up, He unites them together in Christ. In fact, there is nothing more unbiblical in this new covenant period than trying to divide up the people of God on the grounds of ethnicity. That is spiritual apartheid and runs completely to the New Testament plan of God to bring Jew and Gentile together equally in Christ. The whole mission of Jesus Christ in introducing the new covenant was to unite Jew and Gentile in salvation. Nothing could be clearer in the New Testament!

We're not talking about heaven, we're talking about the nation of Israel, that's not heaven.

We're talking about a remnant of Jews returning to the land of Israel, where they set the stage for the last days, the antichrist, the tribulations, and the return of Jesus.
I'm not saying these are God's elect, or anything of that nature, I'm saying they are fulfilling biblical end times prophecy with their actions, but on the wrong side.
 
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