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"So What?" as in "Let's say your end-times view is completely correct... but I don't know anything about your view of end-times.. so what??"
The gospels-only Christian in the scenarios below is one who accepts the gospels, accepts the Bible, is born-again and saved.. but finds all that end-times stuff as too complicated and confusing and so -- just reading the gospels ... ignores all the rest. Ignores even the parts of the gospels that address end times such as Matthew 24.
Some easy questions:
1. Do you agree that in the scenarios you see predicted in the Bible - no human has control over what God does at the end of time - coming to take the saints and destroy the wicked... no matter how He does it.?
2. Do you agree that "not knowing" ahead of time each thing God will do - does not change what He will do?
3. Do you agree that accepting Christ as your savior - the Christ of the Gospels - and being born-again, justified walking in the Spirit - is the right thing for us to do?
The HARD Questions:
What then is "the risk" of not knowing the scenario you promote ahead of time for the one who is a Christian?
When has there EVER been a case in the Bible where a warning regarding a world-ending world-changing crisis event.. ignored... results in NO RISK?
Baptist: Pre, Mid, Post trib rapture and pre-mill
1. A gospels-only Christian has no risk at all in the pre-trib pre-mill rapture LDE – he will find out all about it in heaven.
2. A gospel-reading Christian who ignores all the rest of the Bible – also has no risk if the mid-trib pre-mill Baptist view is correct and he does not know about it.
3. A gospel-reading Christian who ignores all the rest of the Bible – also has no risk if the post-trib pre-mill Baptist view is correct and he does not know about it until he gets to the 2nd coming.
Catholic
1. A gospel-only reading Christian who ignores the rest of the Bible – also has no risk if the Catholic Amillennial view is correct and he does not know about it until the 2nd coming
a. He/she simply wakes up one day and finds that the Catholics have turned the Earth into a wonderful paradise and Christ is just now showing up … what a joy… no risk.
As far as I know the Presbyterian and Methodist views fit into one of those listed above so am not repeating this for those groups.
Any others?
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BY CONTRAST - take every warning in scripture during the past - was there ever an example where God gave a warning about what was about to happen and ignoring that warning ended up with a "so what?" that was of the form "no added risk, no difference".???
Adam and Eve were warned -- they ignored it... they suffered the consequence
Noah gave his last day events message and people ignored him. they suffered the consequences.
John the baptizer gave his present-truth message and warning -- the people ignored him ... they suffered the consequences.
But most views so popular today -- fit the "so what" model where it simply does not matter if they are right or not in what they predict.
Are there exceptions to this rule other than in the case of the SDA view of Last Day events?
The gospels-only Christian in the scenarios below is one who accepts the gospels, accepts the Bible, is born-again and saved.. but finds all that end-times stuff as too complicated and confusing and so -- just reading the gospels ... ignores all the rest. Ignores even the parts of the gospels that address end times such as Matthew 24.
Some easy questions:
1. Do you agree that in the scenarios you see predicted in the Bible - no human has control over what God does at the end of time - coming to take the saints and destroy the wicked... no matter how He does it.?
2. Do you agree that "not knowing" ahead of time each thing God will do - does not change what He will do?
3. Do you agree that accepting Christ as your savior - the Christ of the Gospels - and being born-again, justified walking in the Spirit - is the right thing for us to do?
The HARD Questions:
What then is "the risk" of not knowing the scenario you promote ahead of time for the one who is a Christian?
When has there EVER been a case in the Bible where a warning regarding a world-ending world-changing crisis event.. ignored... results in NO RISK?
Baptist: Pre, Mid, Post trib rapture and pre-mill
1. A gospels-only Christian has no risk at all in the pre-trib pre-mill rapture LDE – he will find out all about it in heaven.
2. A gospel-reading Christian who ignores all the rest of the Bible – also has no risk if the mid-trib pre-mill Baptist view is correct and he does not know about it.
3. A gospel-reading Christian who ignores all the rest of the Bible – also has no risk if the post-trib pre-mill Baptist view is correct and he does not know about it until he gets to the 2nd coming.
Catholic
1. A gospel-only reading Christian who ignores the rest of the Bible – also has no risk if the Catholic Amillennial view is correct and he does not know about it until the 2nd coming
a. He/she simply wakes up one day and finds that the Catholics have turned the Earth into a wonderful paradise and Christ is just now showing up … what a joy… no risk.
As far as I know the Presbyterian and Methodist views fit into one of those listed above so am not repeating this for those groups.
Any others?
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BY CONTRAST - take every warning in scripture during the past - was there ever an example where God gave a warning about what was about to happen and ignoring that warning ended up with a "so what?" that was of the form "no added risk, no difference".???
Adam and Eve were warned -- they ignored it... they suffered the consequence
Noah gave his last day events message and people ignored him. they suffered the consequences.
John the baptizer gave his present-truth message and warning -- the people ignored him ... they suffered the consequences.
But most views so popular today -- fit the "so what" model where it simply does not matter if they are right or not in what they predict.
Are there exceptions to this rule other than in the case of the SDA view of Last Day events?
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