Kaepernick denounces 4th of July as ‘celebration of white supremacy’

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'You enslaved our ancestors,' the NFL free agent writes in a Twitter message posted Saturday

Happy Fourth of July? Not for free agent NFLquarterback Colin Kaepernick.


In a Twitter message Saturday, the former San Francisco 49ers player denounced the nation's 244th birthday as a “celebration of white supremacy.”

Along with a video showing images of the Ku Klux Klan, police brutality, slavery and lynchings, Kaepernick wrote: “Black ppl have been dehumanized, brutalized, criminalized + terrorized by America for centuries, & are expected to join your commemoration of ‘independence’, while you enslaved our ancestors. We reject your celebration of white supremacy & look forward to liberation for all.”

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From the article:

'You enslaved our ancestors,' the NFL free agent writes in a Twitter message posted Saturday

Happy Fourth of July? Not for free agent NFLquarterback Colin Kaepernick.


In a Twitter message Saturday, the former San Francisco 49ers player denounced the nation's 244th birthday as a “celebration of white supremacy.”

Along with a video showing images of the Ku Klux Klan, police brutality, slavery and lynchings, Kaepernick wrote: “Black ppl have been dehumanized, brutalized, criminalized + terrorized by America for centuries, & are expected to join your commemoration of ‘independence’, while you enslaved our ancestors. We reject your celebration of white supremacy & look forward to liberation for all.”

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Kaepernick denounces 4th of July as ‘celebration of white supremacy’



He is 100% right. Even the NFL realizes their mistake. "NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said he supports and encourages teams to sign quarterback Colin Kaepernick...NFL commissioner Roger Goodell closed out a turbulent week Friday by admitting in a video that the league has erred in how it has dealt with NFL player protests of police brutality and systemic racism over the past few years.
 
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He's absolutely right. It was freedom for white people but not for black people. What Independence did they gain from the war? Zilch.

400 years ago white people brought black people over here and enslaved them. And sold them. And treated them as less than human. For 250 years. While white men formed the country and created its laws and its systems of government. While 10-15 generations of white families got to grow and flourish and make choices that could make their lives better.

And then 150 years ago white people "freed" black people from slavery. But then angry white people created laws that made it impossible for them to vote. Or to own land. Or to have the same rights as white people. And even erected monuments glorifying people who actively had fought to keep them enslaved. All while another 5, 10 generations of white families got to grow and accumulate wealth and gain land and get an education.

And then 60 years ago we made it "legal" for black people to vote, and to be "free" from discrimination. But angry white people still fought to keep schools segregated. And closed off neighborhoods to white people only. And made it harder for black people to get bank loans, or get quality education or health care, or to (gasp) marry a white person. All while another 2-3 generations of white families got to grow and pass their wealth down to their children and their children's children.

And then we entered an age where we had the technology to make PUBLIC the things that were already happening in private-- the beatings, the stop and frisk laws, the unequal distribution of justice, the police brutality (police began in America as slave patrols designed to catch runaway slaves). And only now, after 400+ years and 20+ generations of a white head start, are we STARTING to truly have a dialog about what it means to be black.

White privilege doesn't mean you haven't suffered or fought or worked hard. It doesn't mean white people are responsible for the sins of their ancestors. It doesn’t mean you can’t be proud of who you are.

It DOES mean that we need to acknowledge that the system our ancestors created is built FOR white people.

It DOES mean that we aren't disadvantaged because of the color of our skin and it DOES mean that we owe it to our neighbors-- of all colors-- to acknowledge that and work to make our world more equitable.
 
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He's absolutely right. It was freedom for white people but not for black people. What Independence did they gain from the war? Zilch.

400 years ago white people brought black people over here and enslaved them. And sold them. And treated them as less than human. For 250 years. While white men formed the country and created its laws and its systems of government. While 10-15 generations of white families got to grow and flourish and make choices that could make their lives better.

And then 150 years ago white people "freed" black people from slavery. But then angry white people created laws that made it impossible for them to vote. Or to own land. Or to have the same rights as white people. And even erected monuments glorifying people who actively had fought to keep them enslaved. All while another 5, 10 generations of white families got to grow and accumulate wealth and gain land and get an education.

And then 60 years ago we made it "legal" for black people to vote, and to be "free" from discrimination. But angry white people still fought to keep schools segregated. And closed off neighborhoods to white people only. And made it harder for black people to get bank loans, or get quality education or health care, or to (gasp) marry a white person. All while another 2-3 generations of white families got to grow and pass their wealth down to their children and their children's children.

And then we entered an age where we had the technology to make PUBLIC the things that were already happening in private-- the beatings, the stop and frisk laws, the unequal distribution of justice, the police brutality (police began in America as slave patrols designed to catch runaway slaves). And only now, after 400+ years and 20+ generations of a white head start, are we STARTING to truly have a dialog about what it means to be black.

White privilege doesn't mean you haven't suffered or fought or worked hard. It doesn't mean white people are responsible for the sins of their ancestors. It doesn’t mean you can’t be proud of who you are.

It DOES mean that we need to acknowledge that the system our ancestors created is built FOR white people.

It DOES mean that we aren't disadvantaged because of the color of our skin and it DOES mean that we owe it to our neighbors-- of all colors-- to acknowledge that and work to make our world more equitable.

This is the best post about this situation that I have ever read. THANK YOU!!!
 
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From the article:
'You enslaved our ancestors,' the NFL free agent writes in a Twitter message posted Saturday



Happy Fourth of July? Not for free agent NFLquarterback Colin Kaepernick.


In a Twitter message Saturday, the former San Francisco 49ers player denounced the nation's 244th birthday as a “celebration of white supremacy.”

Along with a video showing images of the Ku Klux Klan, police brutality, slavery and lynchings, Kaepernick wrote: “Black ppl have been dehumanized, brutalized, criminalized + terrorized by America for centuries, & are expected to join your commemoration of ‘independence’, while you enslaved our ancestors. We reject your celebration of white supremacy & look forward to liberation for all.”

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Kaepernick denounces 4th of July as ‘celebration of white supremacy’



Hope he stays a free agent
and no one picks him up.

Too bad he played in the first place
would have preferred to never know him.
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I'll just leave this here:
What, to the American slave, is your Fourth of July? I answer: a day that reveals to him, more than all other days of the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is a constant victim. To him, your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty, an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your denunciation of tyrants, brass fronted impudence; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mockery; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade and solemnity, are, to Him, mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy—a thin veil to cover up crimes that would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation of the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of these United States at this very hour.
-Frederick Douglas
tulc(just a thought)
 
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Generalizations always miss the mark. It is better to say some are disenfranchised or discriminated against than to lump the statement on the whole. That holds true for all racial groups. No one has a monopoly on success.

~Bella
 
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I think that applies more to Columbus Day As the USA tries to address past injustices . It doesn’t always succeed and sometimes goes backwards . Sexist and racist and homophobic behavior are all losing their legal status or have lost it in the past.
 
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Hope he stays a free agent
and no one picks him up.

Too bad he played in the first place
would have preferred to never know him.
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So you disagree with the NFL Commissioner, who admitted that the league made a mistake? He was and maybe is an outstanding player who put forth his beliefs in a very brave symbolic gesture.

BTW, how well do you know him?
 
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From the article:

'You enslaved our ancestors,' the NFL free agent writes in a Twitter message posted Saturday

Happy Fourth of July? Not for free agent NFLquarterback Colin Kaepernick.


In a Twitter message Saturday, the former San Francisco 49ers player denounced the nation's 244th birthday as a “celebration of white supremacy.”

Along with a video showing images of the Ku Klux Klan, police brutality, slavery and lynchings, Kaepernick wrote: “Black ppl have been dehumanized, brutalized, criminalized + terrorized by America for centuries, & are expected to join your commemoration of ‘independence’, while you enslaved our ancestors. We reject your celebration of white supremacy & look forward to liberation for all.”

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Kaepernick denounces 4th of July as ‘celebration of white supremacy’


It is not a celebration of Black Lives Matter either.

The British were marching from Boston to Concord to attempt to destroy a Colonial militia arsenal there. The British were opposed at Lexington town commons and there was a skirmish. Paul Revere and William Dawes were riding through the night warning people as they went, “The Red Coats are coming!” The Minutemen (ready to respond in a minute) stood their ground at the Old North Bridge in Concord, MA. The British army in their red coats arrived. Some one fired a shot. We know not who. It was called the shot heard round the world. This was the beginning of the Revolutionary War.
 
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He's absolutely right. It was freedom for white people but not for black people. What Independence did they gain from the war? Zilch.

400 years ago white people brought black people over here and enslaved them. And sold them. And treated them as less than human. For 250 years. While white men formed the country and created its laws and its systems of government. While 10-15 generations of white families got to grow and flourish and make choices that could make their lives better.

And then 150 years ago white people "freed" black people from slavery. But then angry white people created laws that made it impossible for them to vote. Or to own land. Or to have the same rights as white people. And even erected monuments glorifying people who actively had fought to keep them enslaved. All while another 5, 10 generations of white families got to grow and accumulate wealth and gain land and get an education.

And then 60 years ago we made it "legal" for black people to vote, and to be "free" from discrimination. But angry white people still fought to keep schools segregated. And closed off neighborhoods to white people only. And made it harder for black people to get bank loans, or get quality education or health care, or to (gasp) marry a white person. All while another 2-3 generations of white families got to grow and pass their wealth down to their children and their children's children.

And then we entered an age where we had the technology to make PUBLIC the things that were already happening in private-- the beatings, the stop and frisk laws, the unequal distribution of justice, the police brutality (police began in America as slave patrols designed to catch runaway slaves). And only now, after 400+ years and 20+ generations of a white head start, are we STARTING to truly have a dialog about what it means to be black.

White privilege doesn't mean you haven't suffered or fought or worked hard. It doesn't mean white people are responsible for the sins of their ancestors. It doesn’t mean you can’t be proud of who you are.

It DOES mean that we need to acknowledge that the system our ancestors created is built FOR white people.

It DOES mean that we aren't disadvantaged because of the color of our skin and it DOES mean that we owe it to our neighbors-- of all colors-- to acknowledge that and work to make our world more equitable.
Well, I think that we can draw a distinction. I am black but I know that when most white (and black) people celebrate the Fourth of July they are not attempting to glorify the negative aspects of our history that you allude to. They are trying to celebrate the positive aspects of our independence as a nation. I don't think you have to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I think you can still celebrate the holiday while acknowledging the negative aspects of our history and the things that are still in need of improvement. I don't think they are mutually exclusive.
 
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Black people are not allowed to do anything but keep quiet and fall in line, in the minds of many. This is clearly evident.
I think this is a good point. You saw the same thing with MLK and his insistence on non-violence. It continues today, apparently (although I don't think that the types of protests that we have seen the past few years remains the most efficient means of effecting change).
 
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It is not a celebration of Black Lives Matter either.

The British were marching from Boston to Concord to attempt to destroy a Colonial militia arsenal there. The British were opposed at Lexington town commons and there was a skirmish. Paul Revere and William Dawes were riding through the night warning people as they went, “The Red Coats are coming!” The Minutemen (ready to respond in a minute) stood their ground at the Old North Bridge in Concord, MA. The British army in their red coats arrived. Some one fired a shot. We know not who. It was called the shot heard round the world. This was the beginning of the Revolutionary War.

How does this historical account of the beginning of the Revolutionary War apply to the situation being discussed? Before, during, and long after the Revolutionary War black people were enslaved by white people. Mistreatment of people because of their skin color has existed for as long as this country has existed. It's time that it stopped and the nation becomes a place where all people are treated equally regardless of their skin color. (or gender or national origin or gender or ...)

Bigotry is not an American value!
 
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Well, I think that we can draw a distinction. I am black but I know that when most white (and black) people celebrate the Fourth of July they are not attempting to glorify the negative aspects of our history that you allude to. They are trying to celebrate the positive aspects of our independence as a nation. I don't think you have to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I think you can still celebrate the holiday while acknowledging the negative aspects of our history and the things that are still in need of improvement. I don't think they are mutually exclusive.

Well said my friend
 
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And this is what the NFL now says it will affirm prior to every opening game on its schedule this year.
I missed that. Can you point us to a specific statement by the NFL that denounces the 4th of July as white supremacy?
 
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