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Trump Uses Mount Rushmore Speech to Deliver Divisive Culture War Message

With the coronavirus pandemic raging and his campaign faltering in the polls, his appearance amounted to a fiery reboot of his re-election effort, using the holiday and an official presidential address to mount a full-on culture war against a straw-man version of the left that he portrayed as inciting mayhem and moving the country toward totalitarianism.

“Our nation is witnessing a merciless campaign to wipe out our history, defame our heroes, erase our values and indoctrinate our children,” Mr. Trump said, addressing a packed crowd of sign-waving supporters, few of whom wore masks. “Angry mobs are trying to tear down statues of our founders, deface our most sacred memorials and unleash a wave of violent crime in our cities.”

Oh, Donald... always ready to protect America from... Americans.

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Well, the DNC has explained that Mount Rushmore is a "white supremacist" monument.

So "tear down statues of our founders, deface our most sacred memorials" is not actually all that far wrong.


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Well, the DNC has explained that Mount Rushmore is a "white supremacist" monument.

Well, the sculptor was a white supremacist, anti-semite, and quite the buddy with the KKK...

But I guess some history is best forgotten, eh?
 
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He really wants his supporters to go to war so they don't think about how badly he has handled the pandemic.

Well, every death from the civil war will be one less death from the pandemic.
 
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Well, the DNC has explained that Mount Rushmore is a "white supremacist" monument.

The Sioux, for whom the Black Hills is sacred ground, have been actively at war with the US in the 20th century. So it's not like this is an accepted "thing" for them.

It's actually kind of interesting doing geology field work in parts of South Dakota. There are areas you go into and realize that these are still actively used for ritual for the Native Americans. These are sacred lands to them.

Don't get me wrong: I love Mt Rushmore, it's beautiful. And amazing. But it is kind of an affront to people. Kind of like someone coming in and carving their graffitti on OUR most precious cathedrals (say, like Notre Dame or Chartres).

It is our privilege to assume that Mt. Rushmore is just fine. It is not necessarily so.
 
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Happy birthday America!
A country so great that even the people here that hate her won't leave. :oldthumbsup:

Maybe these people you think "hate" America actually want America to be as good as it can be. But what they hate is what people like Trump have brought to the fore as "virtue".

And many of us are quite well educated with good jobs meaning we probably pay more in taxes than most of Trump's most ardent supporters (outside of the business people he services), so in a sense we have the RIGHT to demand more from America than we see.

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Trump Uses Mount Rushmore Speech to Deliver Divisive Culture War Message



Oh, Donald... always ready to protect America from... Americans.

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Indoctrinate our children? This from the guy that enthusiastically supports taxpayer dollars going to religious schools?

Trump is yet again pandering to his dwindling, ignorant base but I think even some of them will know they are being conned and this is just a shallow and cheap attempt at imaging.

Trump is pretty smart to intensify culture war rhetoric.

A. it moves the discussion away from his own abysmal failures.
B. its the only thing that seems to get him personally excited.

My opinion is that the mask has finally come off and we are seeing his naked fascist demagoguery. Only fascists place symbols and ideas above people.
 
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Its not a left wing cultural revolution. Its an American revolution. Trump and many others love to divide America up as many ways as they can

I do agree there is many things wrong with this American revolution but removing Confederate statues and pushing towards racial equality are not amongst them

What is amongst them is Democrats and Republicans making the following things popular; shaming, cancelling, taking the victim stance and attacking others, hatred, intolerance, racism, bitterness, pride, narcissism, Karens, division, and selfishness
 
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Well, the DNC has explained that Mount Rushmore is a "white supremacist" monument.

So "tear down statues of our founders, deface our most sacred memorials" is not actually all that far wrong.


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The DNC did not imply that the monument itself glorifies white supremacy, merely that Trump's rally does.
 
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Trump is pretty smart to intensify culture war rhetoric.

A. it moves the discussion away from his own abysmal failures.
B. its the only thing that seems to get him personally excited.

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Happy birthday America!
A country so great that even the people here that hate her won't leave. :oldthumbsup:
Happy Birthday, America.

I love this country, and I say those who can't stand it should leave for greener pastures too. :)
 
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Maybe these people you think "hate" America actually want America to be as good as it can be. But what they hate is what people like Trump have brought to the fore as "virtue".

And many of us are quite well educated with good jobs meaning we probably pay more in taxes than most of Trump's most ardent supporters (outside of the business people he services), so in a sense we have the RIGHT to demand more from America than we see.

Perhaps it is the deplorables who should leave?

If those well educated with good jobs think supporting the left and its agenda is going to help them keep those good jobs and the life they lead, they are deluded.

In Seattle, the mob went to Major Durkan's doorsteps with its pitchfork and scared her to death. Major Durkan had been bending over backward to satisfy their demands, but nothing she did was good enough for them.

You with the supposedly well educated good jobs, don't be surprised when they come for you too!
 
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Just an FYI.

It is not Republicans rioting in the streets.
It is not Republicans Burning down minority neighborhoods
It is not Republicans Destroying minority businesses
It is not Republicans Screaming, marching, throwing bricks and Molotov cocktails at the police
It is not Republicans Defacing city buildings
It is not Republicans Violently attacking and in some cases murdering people in CHAZ
It is not Republicans Publicly endorsing the dismantling of police departments.
It is not Republicans Promoting and escalating war tactics on the streets


It is not Republicans Promoting a culture war.
 
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If those well educated with good jobs think supporting the left and its agenda is going to help them keep those good jobs and the life they lead, they are deluded.

Oh really? How would you know? If you are an American all the "good" things you enjoy (5 day work weeks, minimum wage, social security, unemployment, worker safety, consumer safety) all came from that same approach. In fact you have never lived in any other kind of America (unless you are 120+ years old).
 
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