Apocalypse of the final days - the wood in the forest

[Douggg]

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[Zao is life]

Then why are the seals not considered a harvest? Especially of the church. Why are the Trumpets not a harvest of the sheep and goats? Why are the Thunders not a harvest of the wheat and tares? Why do we all skip the first 3 harvests and head straight for the destruction of Satan and claim that is the only harvest?

There is only one time that the resurrection of those who died in Christ occurs. The New Testament does not speak of multiple days, multiple resurrections to occur before the return of Christ or at the time of the return of Christ. Harvest and being lifted out of the world are interwoven with the teaching on resurrection:

For we say this to you by the Word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord shall not go before those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. And so we shall ever be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words. 1Thess 4:15-18.

It means that the following will take place on the same day as the above resurrection:

And after three days and a half, a spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood on their feet. And great fear fell on those seeing them. And they heard a great voice from Heaven saying to them, Come up here. And they went up to Heaven in a cloud, and their enemies watched them. Rev 11:11-12.

There is only one return of Christ - only one day when He is to appear in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory to gather His elect, and only one day when the dead in Christ rise first, and then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air.

 

[Douggg]

The reason it's wrong is because the Revelation and Daniel are silent on the first half of the final seven years. The reason you think it isn't is because you think that Daniel 9:26 says the Messiah was cut off during the 62 weeks. Doesn't matter whether you believe it was in the last week of the 7+62 weeks or the last part of the 69th week. Daniel did not write that. He wrote that the Messiah would be cut off after the 69 weeks.

No, I don't think during the 69 weeks but 4 days after. It is putting the 483 years under a high powered microscope, to argue over that minute 4 days is into the 70th week, imo.

 

[Zao is life]

No, I don't think during the 69 weeks but 4 days after. It is putting the 483 years under a high powered microscope, to argue over that minute 4 days is into the 70th week, imo.

He was cut off in the midst of the 70th week of Daniel - 3.5 years after He was baptized by John in the Jordan.

 

[Douggg]

He was cut off in the midst of the 70th week of Daniel - 3.5 years after He was baptized by John in the Jordan.

But Jesus's baptism and the dove liting on him - was not the arrival of the messiah in Jerusalem. Nor the anointing of the most Holy - Jesus. Which was done to Jesus by the woman in Bethany, for his burial.

The messiah was prophesied to be cutoff at 69 1/2 week. Or 486.5 years.

 

[Timtofly]

There is only one time that the resurrection of those who died in Christ occurs. The New Testament does not speak of multiple days, multiple resurrections to occur before the return of Christ or at the time of the return of Christ. Harvest and being lifted out of the world are interwoven with the teaching on resurrection:

For we say this to you by the Word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord shall not go before those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. And so we shall ever be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words. 1Thess 4:15-18.

It means that the following will take place on the same day as the above resurrection:

And after three days and a half, a spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood on their feet. And great fear fell on those seeing them. And they heard a great voice from Heaven saying to them, Come up here. And they went up to Heaven in a cloud, and their enemies watched them. Rev 11:11-12.

There is only one return of Christ - only one day when He is to appear in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory to gather His elect, and only one day when the dead in Christ rise first, and then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air.

The harvest is not a resurrection. It is putting every physical body to death one way or the other. That is why Paul states there is a rapture first. A rapture is not a resurrection, no one is physically dead. It happens at the first appearance, not after the wedding is over.

People die in the Trumpets after the Lamb's book of life is opened. People die in the Thunders. The Wedding celebration Second Coming week. Then the final harvest. Then the Resurrection of the dead on the first day of the 1000 year reign. That is plan A

Plan B. All the harvest, which by the way the only 3.5 years of Jacob's trouble. Then the Second Coming week.
However on Wednesday. Satan is allowed 3.5 years. Then the only two witnesses for God stay in Jerusalem. Blah, blah, blah, of Revelation 13. Now at the end, the 2 witnesses are killed. They lay dead the rest of Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. 3.5 days until early Sunday morning. That completes the Second Coming week, extended by 3.5 GT years.

During the last 3.5 days, while they lay dead, that is when God's wrath is poured out in the 7 vials. The world starts to celebrate and give gifts over the two dead witnesses, but God sends them wrath. On Sunday, God places all humanity at Megiddo. Then the battle of Armageddon.

Monday is the Resurrection of the 3.5 year harvest and those beheaded in Satan's 3.5 years. This is Revelation 20. The dead will be bound by Death, which will be thrown whole into the lake of fire, the resurrection of damnation. The living will live on earth and for 1000 years spread out over all the earth, in the Isaiah 65, new heavens and earth. Isaiah is talking about restored current reality.

Not until the end of the next 1000 years, will be the new reality. We are not told where the temple of God, Garden, Paradise will be. Heaven, earth or above the earth in the sky. At the 6th seal on, God will be on the throne, in the North for the rest of history. No one will have an excuse. But all who stay through Satan's GT, will forget God, never look up, or constantly giving the labor fist of solidarity we see even today.

 

[Zao is life]

But Jesus's baptism and the dove liting on him - was not the arrival of the messiah in Jerusalem. Nor the anointing of the most Holy - Jesus. Which was done to Jesus by the woman in Bethany, for his burial.

The messiah was prophesied to be cutoff at 69 1/2 week. Or 486.5 years.

That's not after the 69th week. The Hebrew word for after in Dan 9 :26 is achar. It means after - like after July comes August. So if the text said Messiah would be cut off after June, it would mean He was cut off in July. The Messiah was cut of in the 70th week (but not for Himself), just like the text says. There is absolutely no reason to rip the final week out of its chronological sequence from the first 69 weeks, kidnapping it with a astronomical drone and droping it into the last 7 years before the return of Christ. Daniel's other prophecies talk about the final 3.5 years of this Age, as does the Revelation.

 

[Timtofly]

That's not after the 69th week. The Hebrew word for after in Dan 9 :26 is achar. It means after - like after July comes August. So if the text said Messiah would be cut off after June, it would mean He was cut off in July. The Messiah was cut of in the 70th week (but not for Himself), just like the text says. There is absolutely no reason to rip the final week out of its chronological sequence from the first 69 weeks, kidnapping it with a astronomical drone and droping it into the last 7 years before the return of Christ. Daniel's other prophecies talk about the final 3.5 years of this Age, as does the Revelation.

That is part of the problem. The church has always looked for Daniel's last week. Preterism claims to have solved it, but only because 1000 years had passed and no rapture. They did not solve it, btw. This last week of Daniel is not about the church at all. The false teachings of the last decade have stolen this week from Jesus and the nation of Israel and claimed it for the church.

Satan is having a field day laughing at all this disinformation. The church is not going to be around. Just all these false prophets/shepherds and their sheep, who listened to man instead of God. Some will be in Christ despite the efforts of Satan.

 

[Zao is life]

The harvest is not a resurrection.

For the earth brings out fruit of itself, first the blade, then the ear, after that the full grain in the ear. But when the fruit has been brought out, immediately he puts in the sickle, because the harvest has come. Mark 4:28-29

But someone will say, How are the dead raised up, and with what body do they come? Foolish one! What you sow is not made alive unless it dies. And what you sow, you do not sow the body that is going to be, but a bare grain (perhaps of wheat or of some of the rest).

So also the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption; 1 Cor 15:35-37, 42).

And another angel came out of the temple, crying in a great voice to Him sitting on the cloud, Thrust in Your sickle and reap, for the time has come for You to reap, for the harvest of the earth was dried. Rev 14:5.

The resurrection is not "a" harvest, it is the harvest of the saints who believe in Jesus.

 

[Timtofly]

For the earth brings out fruit of itself, first the blade, then the ear, after that the full grain in the ear. But when the fruit has been brought out, immediately he puts in the sickle, because the harvest has come. Mark 4:28-29

But someone will say, How are the dead raised up, and with what body do they come? Foolish one! What you sow is not made alive unless it dies. And what you sow, you do not sow the body that is going to be, but a bare grain (perhaps of wheat or of some of the rest).

So also the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption; 1 Cor 15:35-37, 42).

And another angel came out of the temple, crying in a great voice to Him sitting on the cloud, Thrust in Your sickle and reap, for the time has come for You to reap, for the harvest of the earth was dried. Rev 14:5.

The resurrection is not "a" harvest, it is the harvest of the saints who believe in Jesus.

So you do not accept two births? Those walking around do not get killed to go to heaven. You make it sound like all are dead before it starts, and when they come to life the harvest is finished.

Paul says those in Christ are raised already. Absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. The Resurrection in Revelation 20 is after all tribulation (the harvest). It is not even part of the whole mess, but afterwards.

Yes, all those verses talk about humanity over the last 1990 years. We are talking about actual humans, literally walking around on earth this very minute.

 

[Zao is life]

So you do not accept two births? Those walking around do not get killed to go to heaven. You make it sound like all are dead before it starts, and when they come to life the harvest is finished.

Paul says those in Christ are raised already. Absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. The Resurrection in Revelation 20 is after all tribulation (the harvest). It is not even part of the whole mess, but afterwards.

Yes, all those verses talk about humanity over the last 1990 years. We are talking about actual humans, literally walking around on earth this very minute.

What John sees in Revelation 20 is those who had already been resurrected, living and reigning with Christ a thousand years. The resurrection from the dead comes when Christ comes down and it occurs at the same time as the defeat of the beast and his armies by Christ and His armies. In Revelation 20, the beast has already been defeated by Christ and has been thrown into the lake of fire. The resurrection has already taken place.

As for your question about "two births" I do not know what births you are referring to. No one can be bodily resurrected when Christ returns unless he has already been born from above by the Spirit of God and his spirit which was born of God from above has been abiding in Christ and Christ in him.

 

[Douggg]

That's not after the 69th week. The Hebrew word for after in Dan 9 :26 is achar. It means after - like after July comes August. So if the text said Messiah would be cut off after June, it would mean He was cut off in July. The Messiah was cut of in the 70th week (but not for Himself),

Not in the middle of the 70th week.
You are making the prophecy into "after sixty two and a half weeks shall Messiah be cutoff".

The passion week of Christ - Palm Sunday is his arrival in Jerusalem as the messiah fulfilling Daniel 9:25. Unto the Messiah the Prince.

25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

Then 4 days later, Jesus was cutoff, crucified, fulfilling Daniel 9:26.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

 

[Zao is life]

Not in the middle of the 70th week.
You are making the prophecy into "after sixty two and a half weeks shall Messiah be cutoff".

The passion week of Christ - Palm Sunday is his arrival in Jerusalem as the messiah fulfilling Daniel 9:25. Unto the Messiah the Prince.

25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

Then 4 days later, Jesus was cutoff, crucified, fulfilling Daniel 9:26.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.


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Actually, you have made the prophecy into a "during the 69 week Messiah will be cut off" or a "4 days after the 69th week" (or something - whatever fits into your timeline).

 

[Douggg]

Actually, you have made the prophecy into a "during the 69 week Messiah will be cut off" or a "4 days after the 69th week" (or something - whatever fits into your timeline).

It could be even shorter than the 4 days.

Jesus arrives in Jerusalem, 2 days pass, on the 3rd day the 69th week (the 483 years) ends. End of 69 week, over. The next day Jesus is crucified - after 69 weeks.

 

[shilohsfoal]

"..and there was given to it to make war with the saints, and to overcome them, and there was given to it authority over every tribe, and tongue, and nation." Rev 13:7.

Christ's Revelation was meant for all saints,
but especially for those who will be living during the final 3 1/2 years of the Age. ​

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The first thing we need to bear in mind is that when God's people suffered oppression and tribulation in Egypt, they remained in Egypt even while the plagues were coming upon Egypt - some of which were brought about through God's two witnesses in Egypt (Moses and Aaron):

GOD'S TWO WITNESSES IN EGYPT: TURNING THE WATERS TO BLOOD.​

Exo 7:19-20 "And the LORD spoke to Moses, Say to Aaron, Take your rod, and stretch out your hand upon the waters of Egypt, upon their streams, upon their canals, and upon their pools, and upon every reservoir of their waters,

that they may become blood.

And blood shall be throughout all the land of Egypt, both in wooden and in stone vessels."

"And Moses and Aaron did so, as the LORD commanded. And he lifted up the rod and struck the waters that were in the river, in the sight of Pharaoh and in the sight of his servants.

And all the waters in the river were turned to blood."

THE TWO WITNESSES OF THE REVELATION: TURNING THE WATERS TO BLOOD.​

Rev 11:6 “These have authority to shut up the heaven, that it may not rain in the days of their prophecy.

And they have authority over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with every plague, as often as they desire.”

Rev 16:4 "And the third angel poured out his vial on the rivers and fountains of waters, and they became blood."

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The second thing we need to bear in mind is that there is a difference between the tribulation suffered by God's people at the hand of Pharaoh, and the plagues that were coming upon Egypt.

Likewise, the New Testament makes a clear distinction between tribulation on one hand, and "the seven last plagues" (also called the vials of wrath) of the Revelation, on the other hand:

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The third thing we should bear in mind is that the beast has already made its appearance by the time the first plague or "vial of wrath" is poured out:

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"And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshiped his image." Rev 16:2

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* The 5th trumpet talks about the bottomless pit being opened, and we know that the beast rises from the bottomless pit (Rev 17:8) and receives its power, throne and great authority from the dragon (Rev 13:2).

* The 6th trumpet talks about a massive army being released to kill 1/3 of the world's population.
* The 6th vial talks about the beast gathering his armies for the battle of Armageddon.

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"And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them." Rev 9:16 (6th trumpet).

"And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon." Rev 16:16 (6th vial).

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* The 7th trumpet talks about the result of the victory of Christ and His armies over the beast and his armies.
* The 7th vial talks about the result of the victory of Christ and His armies over the beast and his armies.

IV Summarizing the wood​

* 5th seal: The souls of the martyrs cry out from the altar and they are told to wait a little while till the full number of their brothers who are to be killed as they were, is complete.

* 5th trumpet: The bottomless pit (from which the bast ascends) is opened.

* 5th vial is poured out "upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, and blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds."

* 6th seal: there was a great earthquake. And the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, even as a fig tree casts her untimely figs when she is shaken by a mighty wind.

We are told that all men are trying to hide from the wrath of the Lamb at this time. This suggests that The Lord Jesus Christ has now appeared in the clouds:

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"Behold, He comes with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, and those who pierced Him will see Him, and all the kindreds of the earth will wail because of Him. Even so, Amen." (Rev 1:7)

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It also re-affirms what Jesus said during His Olivet Discourse:
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Mat 24:29-31 And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from the heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.

And then the sign of the Son of man shall appear in the heavens. And then all the tribes of the earth shall mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of the heaven with power and great glory."

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The above most certainly would cause all men to try to hide from the wrath of the Lamb.
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"And He shall send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other." (Mat 24:31).

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So that's the 6th seal - it's telling us about what follows the final tribulation period, which is a tribulation to be faced by the saints at the hand of the beast.

In the midst of the Revelation concerning the 6th vial, we read Jesus interjecting:

"Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is the one who watches and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame." (Revelation 16:15).

Immediately afterward (still in the 6th vial) we are told about the beast gathering his armies together to the place called in Hebrew "Armageddon":

* The 6th trumpet talks about a massive army being released to kill 1/3 of the world's population.
* The 6th vial talks about the beast gathering his armies for the battle of Armageddon, with Jesus interjecting to say He is coming as a thief.
* The 6th seal talks about people trying to hide from the wrath of the Lamb.

* The 7th trumpet talks about the result of the victory of Christ and His armies over the beast and his armies.
* The 7th vial talks about the result of the victory of Christ and His armies over the beast and his armies.

* The 7th seal seems to be telling us that the events of the trumpets will only take place after the 7th seal is opened - and yet the 7th seal, 7th trumpet and 7th bowl all mention "noises, thunderings, lightnings, and an earthquake".

It's not that difficult to understand, when we understand that tribulation refers to the experience of saints at the hand of "beasts", and seven last plagues or bowls of wrath refers to what comes upon the kingdom of the beast, just like the plagues came upon the kingdom of Pharaoh.

Did you know there is a city that is occupied by every tribe tongue and nation?

Revelation 17:15 Then the angel said to me, "The waters you saw, where the prostitute was seated, are peoples and multitudes and nations and tongues.

You can walk the streets of Jerusalem and hear ten tongues spoken in a day. Yea, soon as Israel sprang up, immigrants from all over the world followed after that country. A country of immigrants.

 

[Timtofly]

What John sees in Revelation 20 is those who had already been resurrected, living and reigning with Christ a thousand years. The resurrection from the dead comes when Christ comes down and it occurs at the same time as the defeat of the beast and his armies by Christ and His armies. In Revelation 20, the beast has already been defeated by Christ and has been thrown into the lake of fire. The resurrection has already taken place.

As for your question about "two births" I do not know what births you are referring to. No one can be bodily resurrected when Christ returns unless he has already been born from above by the Spirit of God and his spirit which was born of God from above has been abiding in Christ and Christ in him.

That is what I am asking. When Christ comes they are alive. He then kills them all. It is not a resurrection. It is a death sentence. The resurrection happens the next day. Or at least until all were dead. The point was not that Christ came to resurrect or rapture. Christ came to kill all those alive at that time. That is what a battle is for, or the 2 sickles are for. It is for the purpose of death alone. Then that action was completed. At Armageddon it was not the world against the saints. It was Christ against all humans alive. The same with the sickles. The saints were not wielding sickles. Why would Christ kill a saint? A saint is not alive at that time. Only the dead are killed and sent to sheol. Revelation 14, even says the 144K are with Christ. Not even they are on the earth. The 2 witnesses were killed, lay dead for 3.5 days, then stood up, and went to heaven. No saints left period. Why are the sickles or the battle of Armageddon recorded as the final harvest of death, not even remotely showing a resurrection or rapture? All dead means all dead. It does not mean some escaped. That "escape" happened multiple times prior, during the seals, trumpets, and thunders.

 

[5thKingdom]

No, the 1260 days is before the world is at the very worst of the great tribulation, and having gathered it armies at Armageddon, and God pouring out the 7th vial of his wrath in Revelation 16.

The peoples of the world would hardly be exchanging presents with each other at that time in Revelation 16:16-21 because the beast had just killed the two witnesses. Most proof that the 7th angel sounds right after day 1263.5 on the 2520 day timeline.

The 1260 days is on my chart. It is the first half of the 7 years.

The 1260 days of the testimony of the Two Witness.
That EVENT is the Great Commission since the Two
Witnesses REPRESENT the church... and it correlates
with the ministry of Christ and NOT the Rule of the
Revelation Beast.

Remember, the two witnesses are "KILLED" and
lay dead in the streets for 3.5 days....
that period represents the time of the Revelation Beast.


(1) The "Woman" which was hidden from the face of the "serpent"
for 3.5 "times" [Rev 12] The period of the Revelation Beast


(2) The "Holy People" whose "power is scattered" by the Anti-Christ
for 3.5 "times" [Dan 12] The period of the Revelation Beast


(3) The "Kings" that are "given into his hand" [the Anti-Christ's hand]
for 3.5 "times" [Dan 7] The period of the Revelation Beast


(4) The "Witnesses" which are "overcome" and "killed" by Satan
for 3.5 "days" [Rev 11] The period of the Revelation Beast


(5) The "Holy City" the Anti-Christ "treads under foot" forty-two months or for 3.5 "years" [Rev 11] The period of the Revelation Beast


(6) The "Ruler of the Last Saints" as the Anti-Christ "makes war"
for forty-two months or for 3.5 "years" [Rev 13]
The period of the Revelation Beast


Note: And I am not even mentioning the
3.5 "watches of the night" of the Great Tribulation
"Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1]
The period of the Revelation Beast


Before you can even PRETEND to have found Biblical Truth
you FIRST need to harmonize ALL of these RELATED SCRIPTURES.
If you cannot do that then you cannot offer an "informed
opinion" on the matter. You can only offer your own
private interpretation.


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[5thKingdom]

The 1260 days is on my chart. It is the first half of the 7 years.

The 1260 days are the testimony of the Great Commission.
The Two Witnesses represent the CHURCH.

AFTER the testimony of the church (during the Great Commission)
is "finished"... THEN the Two witnesses are "killed"... they are not
killed half why through the Revelation Beast (which is more than
7 years). The Two Witnesses lay dead in the streets for 3.5 days...
THAT represents the Revelation period.

(1) First you must understand the Two Witnesses = the church
(2) Then you must understand their testimony = Great Commission
(3) Then you must understand they are killed AFTER their testimony
(4) Then you must understand they lay dead for 3.5 days which
represent the ENTIRE rule of the Revelation Beast.

This is what the SCRIPTURE teaches...
does your chart reflect what SCRIPTURE teaches?
No... you did not even realize the Two Witnesses = the church
so your chart had no chance of being correct.

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[keras]

The reason it's incorrect is because the Revelation and Daniel are silent on the first half of the final seven years. The reason you think it isn't is because you think that Daniel 9:26 says the Messiah was cut off during the 62 weeks. Doesn't matter whether you believe it was in the last week of the 7+62 weeks (or the last part of the 69th week). Daniel did not write that. He wrote that the Messiah would be cut off after the 69 weeks.

This I fully agree with. Thank you FG

The 69th 'week' finished with the death of Jesus.
The first half of the 70th 'week', nearly 2000 years later, will be a 3 1/2 year time of peace, as the peace treaty between the AC and the Christian nation of Beulah, holds. It isn't mentioned, as nothing happens during that time.

Revelation 12 & 13 and Daniel mention the last 1260 day, 42 month or 3 1/2 year period. It will be the Great Tribulation, completed when Jesus Returns.

 

[5thKingdom]

This I fully agree with. Thank you FG

The 69th 'week' finished with the death of Jesus.
The first half of the 70th 'week', will be a 3 1/2 year time of peace, as the peace treaty between the AC and the Christian nation of Beulah, holds. It isn't mentioned, as nothing happens during that time.

Revelation 12 & 13 and Daniel mention the last 1260 day, 42 month or 3 1/2 year period. It will be the Great Tribulation, completed when Jesus Returns.

(1) First, the 1260 days are the "testimony" of the Two Witnesses.

Rev 11:3-14
And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they
shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees,
and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

(2) Secondly, as you can see above, the Two Witnesses
represent the two candlesticks or two olive trees... these
are references to the CHURCH. If you do not understand
this I can provide Scripture to enlighten you.

(3) Thirdly, you said:
The first half of the 70th 'week', will be a 3 1/2 year time of peace, as the peace treaty between the AC and the Christian nation of Beulah, holds. It isn't mentioned, as nothing happens during that time.
This is your own private interpretation... do you have SCRIPTURE
that shows "nothing happens during this time"... of course
you do NOT. So do not pretend your theory has any Biblical basis.

(4) You need to harmonize ALL THESE RELATED SCRIPTURES
before you can even pretend to offer Biblical Truth... can you
harmonize all these Scriptures? WHO is in view in these
passages and WHEN do they all occur (answer: during
the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" of Mat 25:1
and/or the Revelation Beast.) Please do not think that
your theories are biblical if they cannot harmonize
ALL of these related passages:

The 1260 days of the testimony of the Two Witness.
That EVENT is the Great Commission since the Two
Witnesses REPRESENT the church... and it correlates
with the ministry of Christ and NOT the Rule of the
Revelation Beast.

Remember, the two witnesses are "KILLED" and
lay dead in the streets for 3.5 days....
that period represents the time of the Revelation Beast.


(1) The "Woman" which was hidden from the face of the "serpent"
for 3.5 "times" [Rev 12] The period of the Revelation Beast


(2) The "Holy People" whose "power is scattered" by the Anti-Christ
for 3.5 "times" [Dan 12] The period of the Revelation Beast


(3) The "Kings" that are "given into his hand" [the Anti-Christ's hand]
for 3.5 "times" [Dan 7] The period of the Revelation Beast


(4) The "Witnesses" which are "overcome" and "killed" by Satan
for 3.5 "days" [Rev 11] The period of the Revelation Beast


(5) The "Holy City" the Anti-Christ "treads under foot" forty-two months or for 3.5 "years" [Rev 11] The period of the Revelation Beast


(6) The "Ruler of the Last Saints" as the Anti-Christ "makes war"
for forty-two months or for 3.5 "years" [Rev 13]
The period of the Revelation Beast


Note: And I am not even mentioning the
3.5 "watches of the night" of the Great Tribulation
"Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1]
The period of the Revelation Beast


BTW... do you even KNOW anything about the
four "watches of the night"? Or is this still a "mystery" to you?


Before you can even PRETEND to have found Biblical Truth
you FIRST need to harmonize ALL of these RELATED SCRIPTURES.
If you cannot do that then you cannot offer an "informed
opinion" on the matter. You can only offer your own
private interpretion.


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