So what do you do about the embarrassing celebration of the confederacy that is Stone Mountain.

[Goonie]

What we can do now about Stone Mountain's 150ft Confederate carving | Ryan Gravel and Scott Morris

Stop cleaning it, and let nature do its work is a start.

 

[Ana the Ist]

What we can do now about Stone Mountain's 150ft Confederate carving | Ryan Gravel and Scott Morris

Stop cleaning it, and let nature do its work is a start.

Let it slide?

It's a rather impressive piece of art in of itself...subject matter aside.

 

[disciple Clint]

What we can do now about Stone Mountain's 150ft Confederate carving | Ryan Gravel and Scott Morris

Stop cleaning it, and let nature do its work is a start.

Maybe we could just accept the fact that we cannot change history, as a nation we need to recognize those times when we made mistakes as well as those times when we lived up to our standards. If we erase all of our mistakes we will be living in a make believe world and we might not learn from our past, that could result in making the same or very similar mistakes.

 

[FireDragon76]

Let it slide?

It's a rather impressive piece of art in of itself...subject matter aside.

It's important to put art in context, which alot of the tourism around Stone Mountain does not.

There's a museum dedicated to Jim Crow-era racist art and imagery, for instance, but it places it in its historical context:

Jim Crow Museum - Ferris State University

 

[JustSomeBloke]

Maybe activists will manage to find a dynamite supplier who is sympathetic to their cause. Then we'll see something like this:

Destruction of Buddha statues by the Taliban using dynamite

Edit: I'd like to add that I find it more than a little strange that having fought the Taliban for years, partly on the basis that they are intolerant extremists, America is now under attack from domestic intolerant extremists who seek to destroy statues in much the same way that the Taliban did.

 

[Goonie]

Maybe we could just accept the fact that we cannot change history, as a nation we need to recognize those times when we made mistakes as well as those times when we lived up to our standards. If we erase all of our mistakes we will be living in a make believe world and we might not learn from our past, that could result in making the same or very similar mistakes.

The problem is that Stone Mountain is not some war monument, but a commemoration of a group of people who went to war to defend their right to own other human beings, finished as recently as 1970.

It's time to let nature take its course and for the state of Georgia to stop celebrating slavery.

 

[FireDragon76]

Maybe activists will manage to find a dynamite supplier who is sympathetic to their cause. Then we'll see something like this:

Destruction of Buddha statues by the Taliban using dynamite

Edit: I'd like to add that I find it more than a little strange that having fought the Taliban for years, partly on the basis that they are intolerant extremists, America is now under attack from domestic intolerant extremists who seek to destroy statues in much the same way that the Taliban did.

Comparing statues of the Buddha, who is venerated by hundreds of millions of people for his wisdom and compassion, with a monument to a racist regime, is grotesque

 

[disciple Clint]

The problem is that Stone Mountain is not some war monument, but a commemoration of a group of people who went to war to defend their right to own other human beings, finished as recently as 1970.

It's time to let nature take its course and for the state of Georgia to stop celebrating slavery.

what does that art itself say? is it not up to each of us to see in art what we see based on our views.

 

[Tom 1]

What we can do now about Stone Mountain's 150ft Confederate carving | Ryan Gravel and Scott Morris

Stop cleaning it, and let nature do its work is a start.

Beards are back in fashion. They could convert it into a beard fetishist’s novelty park.

 

[Goonie]

what does that art itself say? is it not up to each of us to see in art what we see based on our views.

The history says that this massive carving on the hill where the Modern KKK was founded, was and to some still is a commemoration of slavery. The context is clear, unlike with war memorial s.

 

[Tom 1]

It's important to put art in context, which alot of the tourism around Stone Mountain does not.

There's a museum dedicated to Jim Crow-era racist art and imagery, for instance, but it places it in its historical context:

Jim Crow Museum - Ferris State University

There are similar displays of soviet era art in parts of Europe.

 

[tbstor]

The problem is that Stone Mountain is not some war monument, but a commemoration of a group of people who went to war to defend their right to own other human beings, finished as recently as 1970.

So... a war monument.

 

[Goonie]

So... a war monument.

Not, In the sense of remembering the dead. It is a commemoration to those who sent soldiers to preserve their right to own other people, on the site where the Modern KKK was founded.

 

[JustSomeBloke]

what does that art itself say? is it not up to each of us to see in art what we see based on our views.

Most people with a prominent position in history are known for more than one thing, but sadly some people only ever see the worst in other people, and incorrectly assume that a statue of that person is always a commemoration of the worst things they ever did. Many of these people are perpetually on the lookout for something to be offended or outraged about. I don't know why they are like this, maybe they don't have any productive or gainful interests or hobbies, and their only satisfaction in life comes from trying to make themselves feel morally and ethically superior by finding others from the history books that did a bad thing. I think it's a rather silly pursuit to spend hours, days, and even years judging people from hundreds of years ago by modern standards. It is certainly telling that these people seek to tear down and destroy rather than create, and I would argue that pulling down statues is a form of book burning.

 

[tbstor]

Not, In the sense of remembering the dead. It is a commemoration to those who sent soldiers to preserve their right to own other people, on the site where the Modern KKK was founded.

Are those men who "sent soldiers" dead? If so, it is a remembering of the dead. You may not like those dead people, but quite obviously a lot do (according to Wikipedia, it has been the most visited destination in the state of Georgia since 2017).

 

[Goonie]

Are those men who "sent soldiers" dead? If so, it is a remembering of the dead. You may not like those dead people, but quite obviously a lot do (according to Wikipedia, it has been the most visited destination in the state of Georgia since 2017).

It's not war monument, in the same way that if Munich, Germany to put up a mass carving of Hitler, Himmler, Goering and Goebbels would not be.

 

[tbstor]

It's not war monument, in the same way that if Munich, Germany to put up a mass carving of Hitler, Himmler, Goering and Goebbels would not be.

Why would it not be? Hitler, Himmler, Goering, and Goebbels were not popular after the conclusion of the war. If they had been, perhaps there would be monuments. Historical southern figures were never out of vogue, if you will.

 

[Lost4words]

Just leave it alone. Its a reminder of past history.

Should Auschwitz be flattened? Again, its a reminder of our past. Of the bad times. Hopefully where those that died, can be remembered and for the atrocities to never happen again.

 

[Goonie]

Why would it not be? Hitler, Himmler, Goering, and Goebbels were not popular after the conclusion of the war. If they had been, perhaps there would be monuments. Historical southern figures were never out of vogue, if you will.

Sigh. It was not built as a memorial to the war dead but to commemorate the 'lost cause' that cause being slavery and the right own people.

 

[tbstor]

Sigh. It was not built as a memorial to the war dead but to commemorate the 'lost cause' that cause being slavery and the right own people.

You've introduced the term "lost cause," but you appear to not understand what it is about. What is academically labeled as "lost cause" is not "slavery and the right to own people." In fact, that is purposefully downplayed in lost cause narratives.

I understand that Southern history probably doesn't hold much significance for you, which is fine. Though it does hold significance for many Southern Americans, myself included. I have numerous ancestors on both sides of my family that served in the Confederate infantry. I view them no differently than my ancestors that fought in the Revolutionary War.

Slavery was the motive for secession, it was not the motive for the war. You'll note that the Southern states peacefully seceded from the Union. It wasn't until the leadership of the North failed to release Fort Sumter (which fell on Confederate land) that the war broke out. Slavery was not what caused shots to be fired. It was a desperate hope for restoration on the part of the Union which caused the war to take place.

Boiling down the significant cultural differences between the North and South to just slavery is about as misleading as it can get.