Anti-Christ update

Tra Phull

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That may be, individual believers who are part of THE ISRAEL OF GOD.

But the State of Israel, worthy of our support because they are a fellow democracy, is of man, still dry bones.

I don't see where anything has changed since Paul wrote they were enemies of the gospel, though respected because of the fathers.
I am not one who looks for a God-inspired Gogging and Magogging comin' round the mountain.

As far as this outfit that was deemed illegal by Israel - it was said they misrepresented their intentions originally, that they were granted a chance to broadcast under certain understandings, but that proselytizing Israelis to become Christians was considered by Israel to be pulling a fast one.

So some say "blue meanie Israel forbids Christians to broadcast!" - and some could say "blue meanie Christians fudged intentions from the get-go".

So I say the enigma of "enemies BUT" continues unchanged by how Paul described it in the Bible.
 
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Tra Phull

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Secular Israel is not little horn of Daniel, or Antichrist of John's epistle - nor are they a God-favored nation that can do no wrong.

As for the Christians who can no longer broadcast, at least they are not dead like some pastors here who violated social distancing deliberately.
 
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Daniel 8:12 KJV: And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

Actually Israel is the little horn.
But the Christians in Israel are not put to death until Israel is given a host. At that time Israel implements its cashless society.

Tell me this, would you believe Jesus if he told you Israelis would die in Israel for preaching the gospel?
Secular Israel is not little horn of Daniel, or Antichrist of John's epistle - nor are they a God-favored nation that can do no wrong.

As for the Christians who can no longer broadcast, at least they are not dead like some pastors here who violated social distancing deliberately.
 
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TribulationSighs has sigh'ed in the spirit.

Unfortunately, I sighed because I know for a Biblical fact that they got "little Horn", "antichrist", "Israel" all wrong. No wonder they are into unbiblical "newspaper eschatology"!
 
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Jesus did say Israelis would die in Israel for preaching the gospel, and they did - including all disciples except John.

Do you know how to quote Scripture? Show me where Jesus says this.
 
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Little horn was perhaps Antiochus IV Epiphanes

John said there were many antichrists even in his day.

And I think Paul said "they are not all Israel who are of Israel"

Ahhh, oh Antiochus. I see you've been reading the Pharisees notes.
Oh no. Antiochus is not the little horn Israel.

As for Israelis being killed in Israel for preaching the gospel. Christ hasn't come quite yet. There's more killing to be done in Israel.

Matthew 10:23 When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next. Truly I tell you, you will not reach all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
 
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Yeah, I quoted Matthew 10:23, and the 2 verses ahead of it. That was spoken to 1st century disciples; not that it cannot have an application towards later believers, but context is those disciples, and like I said, I feel all but John died a martyrs death.
 
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Yeah, I quoted Matthew 10:23, and the 2 verses ahead of it. That was spoken to 1st century disciples; not that it cannot have an application towards later believers, but context is those disciples, and like I said, I feel all but John died a martyrs death.

Those in Mathew 10 are told NOT to leave Israel.
Are you sure all the apostles except John died in Israel?
 
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